Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, Pt. 2

Raptorfan2012 · Post #641 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:08 pm

Hansari wrote:Nothing concrete, but just a good notion that there's more to this Bargs-Knicks trade than meets the eye, we've forgotten about the 'significant' interest we had in Bledsoe, and he hasn't yet been traded.

If Ujiri is still after his man, and L.A was interested in Bargnani/DeRozan, then there is just no way they would pass up DeRozan + Novak, this trade completes their team and would be an ideal scenario for them over Afflalo.

Toronto Sends: DeRozan, Novak

Receives: Bledsoe, Butler, Bullock

I think I would pass on that. I am actually excited about Novak being on this team - I love the 3 ball and can't wait to see an actual 3 pt specialist shoot some in for the Raptors. Bledsoe may be an up and comer, but not excited about Butler.

If anything I rather get Afflalo from the Magic in a 3 team deal; he is a better fit next to Gay and Lowry. Otherwise, maybe Demar to the Bucks for Ersan?

Maple Jordan · Post #642 » by **Maple Jordan** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:09 pm

I'm not totally sure but I do believe you have to wait a certain amount of time before you can trade a player you just traded for.

DatHomieYouHaTe · Post #643 » by **DatHomieYouHaTe** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:09 pm

I love the trade for both teams. Clippers need 3 point shooters and Novak is one of the best. They also get someone that is of similar age as Bledsoe. Do they really have to add bullock though? I think it works without him. Maybe they can give us picks instead. =)

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JV4MVP · Post #644 » by **JV4MVP** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:10 pm

If we were to obtain Bledsoe I wonder who would start at SG? I actually wouldn't mind giving Ross the opportunity in a tanking year. He would help stretch the floor with Rudy. Bledsoe is more of a SG/PG hybrid anyways.

ballislife · Post #645 » by **ballislife** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:11 pm

Hansari wrote:Nothing concrete, but just a good notion that there's more to this Bargs-Knicks trade than meets the eye, we've forgotten about the 'significant' interest we had in Bledsoe, and he hasn't yet been traded.

If Ujiri is still after his man, and L.A was interested in Bargnani/DeRozan, then there is just no way they would pass up DeRozan + Novak, this trade completes their team and would be an ideal scenario for them over Afflalo.

Toronto Sends: DeRozan, Novak

Receives: Bledsoe, Butler, Bullock

hmmm... never thought of it like that... LAC wants a big that can spread the floor... Novak definitely does that. This could be a part of the reason Masai made this deal... get picks for Bargnani and send Novak and DeMar (or Ross) to LAC for Bledsoe and Butler. It's possible, and I'm sure it'll be discussed.

lander · Post #646 » by **lander** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:11 pm

Eeww no thanks to Afflalo.

hankscorpioLA · Post #647 » by **hankscorpioLA** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:13 pm

lander wrote:Eeww no thanks to Afflalo.

we don't get afflalo

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RINSE · Post #648 » by **RINSE** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:13 pm

lander wrote:Eeww no thanks to Afflalo.

Did you even read?

DatHomieYouHaTe · Post #649 » by **DatHomieYouHaTe** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:13 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7q5hOPAlpM[/youtube]

You can really see Bledsoe's ability in this game. Impressive stuff.

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lander · Post #650 » by **lander** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:13 pm

Regression2u wrote:If we were to obtain Bledsoe I wonder who would start at SG? I actually wouldn't mind giving Ross the opportunity in a tanking year. He would help stretch the floor with Rudy. Bledsoe is more of a SG/PG hybrid anyways.

Knicks 1st, 2 2nd rd picks, Reggie Bullock and Ross to Bobcats for MKG.

DatHomieYouHaTe · Post #651 » by **DatHomieYouHaTe** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:15 pm

Regression2u wrote:If we were to obtain Bledsoe I wonder who would start at SG? I actually wouldn't mind giving Ross the opportunity in a tanking year. He would help stretch the floor with Rudy. Bledsoe is more of a SG/PG hybrid anyways.

Ross, obviously. Gives the kid a chance to develop and boost his value amongst nba gm's.

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lander · Post #652 » by **lander** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:18 pm

RINSE wrote:
lander wrote:Eeww no thanks to Afflalo.

Did you even read?

I wasn't replying to the OP.

hankscorpioLA wrote:
lander wrote:Eeww no thanks to Afflalo.
we don't get afflalo

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I was replying to another poster who said they'd rather have Afflalo

Zeno · Post #653 » by **Zeno** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:19 pm

They wouldn't include Bullock I'm pretty sure. They would want a shooter to backup DD. Maybe Orlando would be willing to take Lowry and the Knicks 1st for Affalo?

Net result of all trades: Bargs,DD,Lowry for Bledsoe,Affalo and Expirings(Butler,Camby,QRich) and two 2nds.

Wo1verine · Post #654 » by **Wo1verine** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:20 pm

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7q5hOPAlpM[/youtube]

You can really see Bledsoe's ability in this game. Impressive stuff.

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That was versus Denver as well.

HangTime · Post #655 » by **HangTime** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:20 pm

Some Clipper fan said on the draft thread that the Clippers pick will go to Toronto.

True_Shooting · Post #656 » by **True_Shooting** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:28 pm

Why would we give up Novak? He's one of the best three point shooters of all-time, and three point shooting is exactly what we need.

True_Shooting · Post #657 » by **True_Shooting** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:29 pm

Maple Jordan wrote:I'm not totally sure but I do believe you have to wait a certain amount of time before you can trade a player you just traded for.

Memphis traded Calderon to Detroit like the day they got him I believe. Wallace only played one game in Atlanta before being traded to Detroit. Lots of players have been traded in one day or less.

Sherlock · Post #658 » by **Sherlock** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:34 pm

True_Shooting wrote:Why would we give up Novak? He's one of the best three point shooters of all-time, and three point shooting is exactly what we need.

Maybe because our primary goal isn't to try to maximize our win total in the near term but rather to build a long term championship contender?

jonny three time · Post #659 » by **jonny three time** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:35 pm

You guys just don't understand which types of teams would want which types of players. The Clips would never trade for Derozan when it's clear they'd want a stopper who can ideally hit 3s.

Just as Gay to the Rockets didn't/doesn't make any sense either. Contending teams don't seek out 3rd tier scorers that can't make 3s and don't create for others (perimeter players).

The only way you can trade one of these guys is to a team like Detroit, Washington or maybe Portland. It will have to be some crap team that wants to start winning now, not a winning team that's looking to fill holes. GMs of contending teams see guys like Gay and DD for what they are.

sanity · Post #660 » by **sanity** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:36 pm

More draft picks, Valanciunas, Gay and Bledsoe? That is pretty nice to go forward with