Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor

mhd · Post #101 » by **mhd** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:09 am

Compare EG with Dan Duquette with the Orioles. Dan Duquette took over a laughingstock, and he's turned the team around alongside Buck SHowalter.

If Duquette was the GM of the Wizards, he'd obsess over the 12th man, 5th guard, etc. trying to improve every position as fast as he can. He constantly makes roster moves to ensure that the team has the best possible lineup.

EG is a lazy GM.

verbal8 · Post #102 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:24 am

My initial positive reaction was mainly based on his reputation rather than his actual production. I don't think he is the worst use of the BAE, but don't see there as being a rush get him in that deal either.

The part that seems really bad to me is the contract structure(2nd year player option). It could end up being $4 million for essentially no production.

gambitx777 · Post #103 » by **gambitx777** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:31 am

Could have been worse. we could have brought back Leandro Barbosa and Jannero Pargo
Good quality signing.
Wall, Maynor, Thomas(maybe)
Beal, Rice, Temple(maybe)

that's not a back back court.
he is a good quality back up.

AFM · Post #104 » by **AFM** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:42 am

Just checked his stats. Not good.

Post #105 » by **montestewart** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:45 am

AFM wrote:Just checked his stats. Not good.

Which Wizard are we talking about?

AFM · Post #106 » by **AFM** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:47 am

Sorry, I should have clarified. Anyone not named Wall or Beal.

I guess it is true then that Maynor is True Wizards Quality.

hands11 · Post #107 » by **hands11** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:56 am

mhd wrote:Compare EG with Dan Duquette with the Orioles. Dan Duquette took over a laughingstock, and he's turned the team around alongside Buck SHowalter.

If Duquette was the GM of the Wizards, he'd obsess over the 12th man, 5th guard, etc. trying to improve every position as fast as he can. He constantly makes roster moves to ensure that the team has the best possible lineup.

EG is a lazy GM.

We were really exciting about adding Eric to our squad. Eric is a talented young vet who has shown at lot promise and has playoff experience. Eric showed great potential which was unfortunately set back by an knee injury Jan 2011, from which he is now fully recovered. So were excited to get to work with him to help get him up to speed with what we want to do here in our schemes.

We wanted to thank AJ for all his hard work and production he provided the team while he was with our squad. As you know, AJ was a FA this year and this is the time of year you evaluate all your options and do what you think is best for the team and best for the players you are interviewing. AJ provided us valuable minutes as a hybrid PG/SG and covered the PG duties admirably while John was injured. We just felt that at this time with our returning players and new draft picks, we needed to go in a different direction with the back up PG spot to a player who had more experience being a pure PG.

Blah Blah Blah...

And all of that is actually true. AJ was better as a SG then a PG. Which is why we were looking in the first place. So now they have Wall, Temple and Maynor. Hopefully Beal improves his handles as well. Plus Otto has some handles. Nothing replaces Wall if injured but they have better depth this year.

He is going to have to soft shoe this in order to not throw AJ under the bus. He has to be hoping AJ lands some place else before he has to speak. That will make it easier.

Kanyewest · Post #108 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 5:03 am

A dagger by Maynor back in the day. Maybe Steve Buckhantz is behind this signing.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svLSIWh1xJs[/youtube]

rockymac52 · Post #109 » by **rockymac52** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 5:55 am

After having a few hours to try and come to terms with this signing, I did realize one point of interest.

AJ Price has no trade value. No team would have ever wanted to acquire him a trade, unless he was thrown in as salary filler. However, Eric Maynor is a much more respected "name" and as such has more trade value, IMO. This probably doesn't matter since we need him to stay because we only have him and Wall at PG at the moment, but maybe in the future, if we luck ourselves into a third capable PG, trading Maynor might be an option.

Likewise, it might make our team a more attractive destination for free agents next summer. Looking at our roster and seeing AJ Price doesn't excite a good NBA player, but Eric Maynor seems to have a decent reputation throughout the league, even if he's not seen as a gamechanger or anything like that. Every little bit helps I suppose.

gambitx777 · Post #110 » by **gambitx777** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 5:56 am

hes not a back BUPG. we could have signed worse players.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #111 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 5:59 am

mhd wrote:Compare EG with Dan Duquette with the Orioles. Dan Duquette took over a laughingstock, and he's turned the team around alongside Buck SHowalter.

If Duquette was the GM of the Wizards, he'd obsess over the 12th man, 5th guard, etc. trying to improve every position as fast as he can. He constantly makes roster moves to ensure that the team has the best possible lineup.

EG is a lazy GM.

+1

WizardsWorld · Post #112 » by **WizardsWorld** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 7:16 am

I like it. He's definitely an upgrade from Price. As some said before maybe not the absolute best option out there.... but overall I like the upgrade.

fishercob · Post #113 » by **fishercob** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 10:00 am

Ed Wood wrote:Evenin'. The pessimist in me wants to clarify that (speaking for myself) the disappointment that accompanies a move like this isn't a matter of believing that it torpedoed the team's future prospects or that an alternative could have elevated them, it's that these things so often seem to amount to the team making moves that don't have any real chance of making a difference nor demonstrating any apparent interest or flair in maximizing its return in marginal situations like this one.

I'm sure this isn't totally fair but the moves and the players that seem to annually fill out the roster makes me feel that the team adopts that same "back up point, does it matter all that much what we have there?" mentality and the result is players who make it very clear it doesn't.

Not every move has to dazzle, but I don't want the team to feel that way. Frankly, when Hilton Armstrong and Darius Songaila are players you slot into your rotation you have failed to convince me that you don't just not give a ****.

Well said.

fishercob · Post #114 » by **fishercob** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 10:04 am

TGW wrote:
This signing screams rearranging the deck chairs. Where's Nivek when you need him.

Texted with him a bit last night. He loves the move and thinks Maynor could be a huge difference maker. He rates as a potential 6MOY in YODA and his PPA metric.

Just kidding. His money quote was: "I disagree with so much of what they do."

closg00 · Post #115 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:09 am

Why couldn't the 2nd year be our option instead of Maynor's, was he really in-demand?

tontoz · Post #116 » by **tontoz** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:32 am

The only positive i see is that he played better after the break, averaging 12/7 per 36, shooting 42% from the field, 38% from 3.

I really don't see what the rush was though.

fishercob · Post #117 » by **fishercob** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:26 pm

The last thing I'll say for a while on the subject: maybe, just maybe, EG deserves a teeny tiny bit of the benefit of the doubt here (ducks).

Last year they identified Webster as a guy who had had injury issues and unstable roles for much of his career. They saw that they could use what he does well and hide his weaknesses. Perhaps this is a similar situation; they'll put him on the floor for 10-15 mpg with high quality wings who can shoot and defend, and maybe sneak him a little time with Nene. Maybe doing so allows him to improve on what he has been.

Post #118 » by **montestewart** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:53 pm

I won't be surprised if Maynor surprises me. Last year's major additions, Okariza, Webster, Price, Nene, Temple, played much better as a group than I expected, all of them meeting or exceeding expectations. The result, a 29-53 record. Maynor could be better than Price, have the best season of his career, and still not really make any difference ti this team.

As a component of team building, keeping an eye on the junk heap is a good idea, but it's been the centerpiece of EG's strategy for too long.

dandridge 10 · Post #119 » by **dandridge 10** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:56 pm

fishercob wrote:The last thing I'll say for a while on the subject: maybe, just maybe, EG deserves a teeny tiny bit of the benefit of the doubt here (ducks).

Last year they identified Webster as a guy who had had injury issues and unstable roles for much of his career. They saw that they could use what he does well and hide his weaknesses. Perhaps this is a similar situation; they'll put him on the floor for 10-15 mpg with high quality wings who can shoot and defend, and maybe sneak him a little time with Nene. Maybe doing so allows him to improve on what he has been.

This is the hope that I have. I do recall watching Maynor with OKC before his injury and thinking he was a quality back-up. In fact, I distinctly recall the Thunder actually playing better when Maynor was on the floor instead of Westbrook at times.

With more time to recover from his injury, my hope is that Maynor will, at the worst, be equivalent to Price, and perhaps better. While I liked Price's defense, I did not like is ball pounding at times and he often took bad shots at the worst possible time. If Maynor could provide better ball movement with equal or better shooting, then I will be happy. I am going to reserve judgment until I actually see the guy play again, since I really have not watched him since his pre-injury days.

20MexicanosIn1Van · Post #120 » by **20MexicanosIn1Van** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:10 pm

Is it just me, or does EG also seem to make the most predictable moves? It's always "we need a back up PG, let's sign someone", "we have the third pick, let's pick someone with it", "it is now time to dump Jordan Crawford even though his trade value has plummeted, what can we get for him?". He never actively seeks a situation to improve the team but rather lets them just come to him. For example, NOP is looking to shed salary, why not try and trade for Vasquez? Why not take Dallas up on their offer to give away the 13th pick and take Kelly Olynyk or Shane Larkin?