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Camby/Anthony 

Post#1 » by DeeDub » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:02 pm

Camby is not happy about the trade to Toronto and wants a chance to contend. Toronto is reportedly looking for a place to send him. Anthony would give Toronto much of the same (but less rebounding) and is much younger. The salaries match up and Anthony is Canadian, which might make him appealing to Toronto. Would you trade Anthony for Camby?
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#2 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:15 pm

Ujiri is to smart for that.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#3 » by heat4life » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:16 pm

DeeDub wrote:Camby is not happy about the trade to Toronto and wants a chance to contend. Toronto is reportedly looking for a place to send him. Anthony would give Toronto much of the same (but less rebounding) and is much younger. The salaries match up and Anthony is Canadian, which might make him appealing to Toronto. Would you trade Anthony for Camby?


Unless you are a Raptors fan, why would Miami be motivated to do this trade?
I mean, move to the other side of the table for a minute and re-read your post. From a pure logical standpoint, it would be a dumb move!
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#4 » by GameTime_3 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:32 pm

heat4life wrote:
DeeDub wrote:Camby is not happy about the trade to Toronto and wants a chance to contend. Toronto is reportedly looking for a place to send him. Anthony would give Toronto much of the same (but less rebounding) and is much younger. The salaries match up and Anthony is Canadian, which might make him appealing to Toronto. Would you trade Anthony for Camby?


Unless you are a Raptors fan, why would Miami be motivated to do this trade?
I mean, move to the other side of the table for a minute and re-read your post. From a pure logical standpoint, it would be a dumb move!


First the Raptors wouldn't do this. Second, Miami wouldn't take back a contract for Joel when they can amnesty him and pickup Camby once he is waived and we save money on the cap.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#5 » by Mugiwara » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:33 pm

Thank the Knicks for 'stealing' Camby from us. :D

Unless he's bought out, there's no way we would even look at him.
Let alone trade for him.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#6 » by WD » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:34 pm

I do not want Marcus Camby, I do not feel he fits our defensive structure, was basically useless in NY....If we can't/don't get anderson/oden...someone will shake free
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#7 » by DeeDub » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:46 pm

heat4life wrote:
DeeDub wrote:Camby is not happy about the trade to Toronto and wants a chance to contend. Toronto is reportedly looking for a place to send him. Anthony would give Toronto much of the same (but less rebounding) and is much younger. The salaries match up and Anthony is Canadian, which might make him appealing to Toronto. Would you trade Anthony for Camby?


Unless you are a Raptors fan, why would Miami be motivated to do this trade?
I mean, move to the other side of the table for a minute and re-read your post. From a pure logical standpoint, it would be a dumb move!



Uh, because Camby is a much better rebounder and a better post defender. We are playing for now. Toronto is not. If we are talking about taking the roster spot of 40 yr old Juwan Howard, Camby's age really shouldn't be that much of a factor.

I'm not sure I'd do it because I am not sure Camby is an ideal fit in our defense, but as a rebounder and shot blocker he is still a proven commodity.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#8 » by DeeDub » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:52 pm

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heat4life wrote:
DeeDub wrote:Camby is not happy about the trade to Toronto and wants a chance to contend. Toronto is reportedly looking for a place to send him. Anthony would give Toronto much of the same (but less rebounding) and is much younger. The salaries match up and Anthony is Canadian, which might make him appealing to Toronto. Would you trade Anthony for Camby?


Unless you are a Raptors fan, why would Miami be motivated to do this trade?
I mean, move to the other side of the table for a minute and re-read your post. From a pure logical standpoint, it would be a dumb move!


First the Raptors wouldn't do this. Second, Miami wouldn't take back a contract for Joel when they can amnesty him and pickup Camby once he is waived and we save money on the cap.


If you are assuming Toronto waives Camby, then they very well might want Anthony. The Bargnani trade appears to have been at least partially due to Toronto's need for some defense in its front court and Anthony can provide that. And for the Heat, they'd be better served by amnestying Miller than Anthony. Miller's role for us is really just as a spot up shooter and we use him pretty sparingly at that. Good spot up shooters can be found for a fraction of the cost, especially when you consider the luxury tax ramifications.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#9 » by heat4life » Tue Jul 2, 2013 9:25 pm

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heat4life wrote:
DeeDub wrote:Camby is not happy about the trade to Toronto and wants a chance to contend. Toronto is reportedly looking for a place to send him. Anthony would give Toronto much of the same (but less rebounding) and is much younger. The salaries match up and Anthony is Canadian, which might make him appealing to Toronto. Would you trade Anthony for Camby?


Unless you are a Raptors fan, why would Miami be motivated to do this trade?
I mean, move to the other side of the table for a minute and re-read your post. From a pure logical standpoint, it would be a dumb move!



Uh, because Camby is a much better rebounder and a better post defender. We are playing for now. Toronto is not. If we are talking about taking the roster spot of 40 yr old Juwan Howard, Camby's age really shouldn't be that much of a factor.

I'm not sure I'd do it because I am not sure Camby is an ideal fit in our defense, but as a rebounder and shot blocker he is still a proven commodity.


But Camby wouldn't be taking Juwan Howard's spot, it would be Joel Anthony as you suggested. Big difference.
I would add Camby at the end of our bench but I wouldn't trade Anthony for him.

And with both Anthony and Camby on the roster, I don't know that Camby would play ahead of him anyway. Anthony can move better on defense and defend the PnR better than Camby ever did. Also, at this stage, I just don't know how much of a better rebounder Camby is. I do think Camby - and a rock - have better hands on offense than Anthony.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#10 » by DeeDub » Tue Jul 2, 2013 10:24 pm

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Unless you are a Raptors fan, why would Miami be motivated to do this trade?
I mean, move to the other side of the table for a minute and re-read your post. From a pure logical standpoint, it would be a dumb move!



Uh, because Camby is a much better rebounder and a better post defender. We are playing for now. Toronto is not. If we are talking about taking the roster spot of 40 yr old Juwan Howard, Camby's age really shouldn't be that much of a factor.

I'm not sure I'd do it because I am not sure Camby is an ideal fit in our defense, but as a rebounder and shot blocker he is still a proven commodity.


But Camby wouldn't be taking Juwan Howard's spot, it would be Joel Anthony as you suggested. Big difference.
I would add Camby at the end of our bench but I wouldn't trade Anthony for him.

And with both Anthony and Camby on the roster, I don't know that Camby would play ahead of him anyway. Anthony can move better on defense and defend the PnR better than Camby ever did. Also, at this stage, I just don't know how much of a better rebounder Camby is. I do think Camby - and a rock - have better hands on offense than Anthony.


Well, no player has a specific designated roster spot. I expect us to try to add another center and probably one with more bulk strength, so there would be room for Andersen, Camby and Oden (for example). I don't expect Howard to be on the roster (unless he is added late in the reason like this past season).

I don't know that Camby would play ahead of Andersen either. For that matter I don't think any C we would sign would. But that is not a reason to not add depth at C. Injuries do happen and Andersen's re-signing is not a given (although it does sound like everyone wants it to happen).

I think Camby is still a pretty elite rebounder. He played so little this year so it is hard to derive too much from his numbers, but he was still an 11.5 rebs per 36 minute guy. The year before he was over 14 rebounds per 36 minutes, which is elite.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#11 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:18 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA CAMBY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

hahahahsajsgadgshdgshdfahahahha

Yes, I am loving this and overreacting.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

**** idiot Camby turned down the Miami Heat last year so that he can go to NY. Result = he didn't get playing time, traded to Raptors

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. That idiot would have been our starting Center when healthy and would have gotten all the minutes he could handle vs Indy and Spurs in the NBA Finals.


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#12 » by KL78192020 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:35 pm

Heat need to go after Robin Lopez, apparently he's available or even Kaman.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#13 » by Heat3 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:52 pm

Don't like this trade. I thought Camby was over the hill years ago yet somehow he still in the league :lol:
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#14 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:18 am

Hes done. Robin Lopez would be an incredible pickup. Doubt that's possible.

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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#15 » by Duane » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:33 am

Camby was injured most of last season and didn't do squat to help N.Y. Name even one memorable play he had last season. Joel is younger, healthier, and probably the far better overall player at this point. At least we know that Joel can fill in spot minutes without issue. He knows the defence very well and outs always prepared. I actually don't expect us to amnesty him unless we sign Oden. Otherwise Joel is a valuable reserve.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#16 » by El Alonzo scowl » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:41 am

I'd honestly rather have Stonehands over that old geezer at this point. I don't see his contract as that annoying either, it's obvious Miller will be amnestied after next season.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#17 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jul 3, 2013 1:51 am

Camby's health is just bad, forget about it.

In 2011 we were ridden with our bigs who were just injury prone, tired of that. Don't want it again.

Camby didn't last long in NY, and for good reason. When he did play, he was fine, but he'd get injured again...

He is also 4mil man... not worth it. I'd rather keep Joel hahaha.
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#18 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:08 am

El Alonzo scowl wrote:I'd honestly rather have Stonehands over that old geezer at this point. I don't see his contract as that annoying either, it's obvious Miller will be amnestied after next season.


amnesty him now
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#19 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:33 am

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El Alonzo scowl wrote:I'd honestly rather have Stonehands over that old geezer at this point. I don't see his contract as that annoying either, it's obvious Miller will be amnestied after next season.


uh, miller's contract is done after this season. strong knowledge of the contract situation you have there.

trade him now or never.

Miller has 2 more seasons left on his deal, this season and next...
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Re: Camby/Anthony 

Post#20 » by weouthere » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:51 am

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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