Webster re-ups for 4 years/22 million dollars
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The funniest part about the blow-ups is I'm certain we flip Ariza for a big, and head into the trade deadline with the best line-up Wiz have had in decades. The trade probably even happens before the season.
Wall/Maynor
Beal/Webster/Rice
Porter/Webster
Nene/?/Booker
Okafor/Serphin/?
Is a line-up we would have killed for most of my wizfandom.
Again, if we don't go all in and get a young big soon, then throw the water bottles. I will. But currently, people are pulling their hair out because we paid our back-up sg/sf a million too much and didn't draft a slow pg with our second round pick. I get it, but it's fairly ridiculous.
Wall/Maynor
Beal/Webster/Rice
Porter/Webster
Nene/?/Booker
Okafor/Serphin/?
Is a line-up we would have killed for most of my wizfandom.
Again, if we don't go all in and get a young big soon, then throw the water bottles. I will. But currently, people are pulling their hair out because we paid our back-up sg/sf a million too much and didn't draft a slow pg with our second round pick. I get it, but it's fairly ridiculous.
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If splitter is about to sign a 45 mil contract then his contract is no biggie. If Webster works to improve this could end up being a stea.
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Okariza and Webster turned out to be the perfect storm of everything going right.
Nene turned out to be just as injury plagued and on his last legs as I thought when McGee and others were traded for him.
I still say a sharper GM could have bought out Rashard and acquired an Ilyasova, or a Ryan Anderson. Nene's deal is one the Wizards need to shed before its too late.
The sky isn't falling. It's partly cloudy or partly sunny, depending on your own perspective. If they trade Ariza and/or Okafor, or if they re-up Emeka to a very reasonable deal; they can still add some talent. I just don't trust EG to do so.
I'm glad to have Webster back but Ernie has not been efficient, per usual, with cap matters.
Nene turned out to be just as injury plagued and on his last legs as I thought when McGee and others were traded for him.
I still say a sharper GM could have bought out Rashard and acquired an Ilyasova, or a Ryan Anderson. Nene's deal is one the Wizards need to shed before its too late.
The sky isn't falling. It's partly cloudy or partly sunny, depending on your own perspective. If they trade Ariza and/or Okafor, or if they re-up Emeka to a very reasonable deal; they can still add some talent. I just don't trust EG to do so.
I'm glad to have Webster back but Ernie has not been efficient, per usual, with cap matters.
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I'm with you CCJ... obviously, I feel your sufferin'.
None of these moves in a vacuum is terrible... the issue is that there isn't any vision. It is all reactive.
If EG can pull off a consolidation trade or two to get a couple of serviceable, decent contract veterans, then things can be salvaged (I liked the Ariza for Bass scenario, for example). However, nothing in Grunfail's history suggests he is capable of pulling something off. On top of that, other than the obvious three (Wall, Beal and Porter), Ernesto's draft picks have been straight garbage... worthless as trade pieces.
I'm really torn. I can't bring myself to root for Wizard's losses... however, I'm quite sure that even mediocrity will earn the bum an extension. Imagine what a great young GM and a hungry coach like Joerger could do with this franchise -- this core, this fanbase, this market.
Lazy GM was used earlier.
Reactive is one word I was going to use in a long, derisive post that I decided not to send.
Ted and EG strive for mediocrity.
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^No, people are annoyed because they continue to pay guys more than they're worth. It's simple money-management. Don't overspend on players that don't make a tick in the W-L's column.
No offense to Webster...he's a nice guy and a decent player, but he's not worth $22M. He was 1.7 mil last season. Now he's getting 5.5 mil a season....utterly ridiculous. No wonder the Wizards are consistently the butt of jokes throughout the league...it's why Bill Simmons and even our own team blogs are poking fun at this team. The FO is a joke.
But keep coppin pleas guys. God knows the apologists have been right about this team for the past 5 years.
No offense to Webster...he's a nice guy and a decent player, but he's not worth $22M. He was 1.7 mil last season. Now he's getting 5.5 mil a season....utterly ridiculous. No wonder the Wizards are consistently the butt of jokes throughout the league...it's why Bill Simmons and even our own team blogs are poking fun at this team. The FO is a joke.
But keep coppin pleas guys. God knows the apologists have been right about this team for the past 5 years.

Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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fishercob wrote:Deal looks a little better considering Budinger just got 3/$16M.
Rough breakdown:
Year 1: $5.15
Year 2: $5.4
Year 3: $5.7
A little over the $16 mil mark for Webster. It depends on what that 4th year holds though. I've heard of partial guarantees for guys that have to be on the roster until a certain date before their contract is guaranteed, so this will be interesting. Houston cut Delfino before he was due $3 million so it's probably a similar situation here.
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FAH1223 wrote:Bad signing. I love Martell but that's too much.
Typical Ernie signing.
+1 Ernie over-pays and extends too-long and without a team option. I hope the 4th year is a team-option but that is unlikely given Ernie's history.
Love having Webster back, but they didn't have to pay this-much.
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So with the SF position set hopefully for at least 3 years down the road, do you think we could trade Ariza and a 2015 top 3 protected first round pick for Thaddeus Young?
We get a guy who's great on the fast break, and can play uptempo. Seems to be a decent midrange shooter. IDK. Would the Wiz being giving up too much? I don't think so, considering we should be expected to make the playoffs the next two years, and with how the 76ers are desperate to tank maybe the Wiz can at least get him on the cheap.
We get a guy who's great on the fast break, and can play uptempo. Seems to be a decent midrange shooter. IDK. Would the Wiz being giving up too much? I don't think so, considering we should be expected to make the playoffs the next two years, and with how the 76ers are desperate to tank maybe the Wiz can at least get him on the cheap.
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Okariza and Webster turned out to be the perfect storm of everything going right.
Nene turned out to be just as injury plagued and on his last legs as I thought when McGee and others were traded for him.
I still say a sharper GM could have bought out Rashard and acquired an Ilyasova, or a Ryan Anderson. Nene's deal is one the Wizards need to shed before its too late.
The sky isn't falling. It's partly cloudy or partly sunny, depending on your own perspective. If they trade Ariza and/or Okafor, or if they re-up Emeka to a very reasonable deal; they can still add some talent. I just don't trust EG to do so.
I'm glad to have Webster back but Ernie has not been efficient, per usual, with cap matters.
Believe me, I am no Ernie fan. I would like him fired just like everyone else because I think we can do way better. Nonetheless, this team is looking much better ...I'm willing the hold tight and see what else happens this year before getting too upset about the FA moves so far. If EG can surprise everyone and move Ariza + one of the kids + maybe even a future 1st rounders for some talented frontcourt player, I think everyone will be singing different tunes. I am also interested in more details about the last year of Martell's contract.
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TGW wrote:^No, people are annoyed because they continue to pay guys more than they're worth. It's simple money-management. Don't overspend on players that don't make a tick in the W-L's column.
No offense to Webster...he's a nice guy and a decent player, but he's not worth $22M. He was 1.7 mil last season. Now he's getting 5.5 mil a season....utterly ridiculous. No wonder the Wizards are consistently the butt of jokes throughout the league...it's why Bill Simmons and even our own team blogs are poking fun at this team. The FO is a joke.
But keep coppin pleas guys. God knows the apologists have been right about this team for the past 5 years.
When Ariza was acquired along with Okafor, their combined $20M was the one thing I fixated on. Honestly, if Ariza made over 7M last season, paying Webster 5.5M isn't the most outrageous thing.
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Meh.
Mild overpay, especially with the years. Could blow up in our faces like other deals like this. Honestly, our top picks pretty much mean we don't have to make good moves to be an elite team. When Wall is a 1st Team All NBA player, Beal is an All-Star, Porter is a rich man's Tayshaun, and we have good if overpaid depth, we'll still win.
Mild overpay, especially with the years. Could blow up in our faces like other deals like this. Honestly, our top picks pretty much mean we don't have to make good moves to be an elite team. When Wall is a 1st Team All NBA player, Beal is an All-Star, Porter is a rich man's Tayshaun, and we have good if overpaid depth, we'll still win.
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TGW wrote:^No, people are annoyed because they continue to pay guys more than they're worth. It's simple money-management. Don't overspend on players that don't make a tick in the W-L's column.
No offense to Webster...he's a nice guy and a decent player, but he's not worth $22M. He was 1.7 mil last season. Now he's getting 5.5 mil a season....utterly ridiculous. No wonder the Wizards are consistently the butt of jokes throughout the league...it's why Bill Simmons and even our own team blogs are poking fun at this team. The FO is a joke.
But keep coppin pleas guys. God knows the apologists have been right about this team for the past 5 years.
Apologists for this team?
I said Blatche was a headcase who should be traded back when most were claiming he was going to be KG. Ditto Kwame. Many here were killing themselves over the Okariza trade (and still are, despite it working out damn well IMO). I said we should tank. We did and got Beal, Wall and Porter. Glad we tanked. Glad we made moves to build a professional/defensive culture while tanking.
As I said, I'll probably stop being a basketball fan, if we don't go all in and get a star big. But, Webster can back sg and sf (not every player can). So, you can justify his salary because you split it in half between the two positions. Sweat the big stuff. Not the small things.
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Full MLE? Ernie, man. Damn. That is impressive.

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Oh! and dont forget Webster's injury history and how he ended the season, think another team would have given him a 4-year $22 million-dollar deal?
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Likely Ariza will be gone . So i expect some rumors I mean overall atleast we have depth now at the wing so now its about improving our big man .
more than likely will pick up Jamison but even so believe it or not fellas we are a better team alreaady from last year with Porter-maynor- and Webster being back with potentially Jamison coming.
I know...but its true we are likely a better team already I wish we could get a Howard or such and such but.
more than likely will pick up Jamison but even so believe it or not fellas we are a better team alreaady from last year with Porter-maynor- and Webster being back with potentially Jamison coming.
I know...but its true we are likely a better team already I wish we could get a Howard or such and such but.
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Clips just gave up their best asset and Caron's expiring for Redick and Dudley. Shooting is really at a huge premium in today's NBA. Word is they are going to keep Barnes as well. So they will have Paul, Crawford, Redick, Dudley and Barnes and the 1-2-3. My guess is they sign a more "pure" backup vet PG as well. Shooting and depth matters.
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fishercob wrote:Clips just gave up their best asset and Caron's expiring for Redick and Dudley. Shooting is really at a huge premium in today's NBA. Word is they are going to keep Barnes as well. So they will have Paul, Crawford, Redick, Dudley and Barnes and the 1-2-3. My guess is they sign a more "pure" backup vet PG as well. Shooting and depth matters.
+10000
Webster is only getting 5 mill a year, and he will only be 30 by the end of the deal, he can shoot. So if we ever need to move him it will not be hard! I think webster is a better player than Ariza so anything less than Ariza's contract is fine by me.
I thin Ariza is gone, but keeping him and having depth won't hurt either.
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Okay kinda expensive but how could you not love this guy! Hey it's not my money.
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At this point, this team doesn't make much sense unless Ariza is gone. Hopefully he's traded for a stretch 4, although it looks like we're getting back the Leader of Men. If that be the case, either a center or QUALITY backup PG would really be a nice bit of news. I would be OK with the Martel overpay if EG has a plan to turn Ariza over to fill a position of need.
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Other option is Ernie likes the options out there this summer and simply lets Ariza and or Okafor expire.
I think that's unlikely though.
I think that's unlikely though.











