The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread

[Dat2U]

The Jamison move is an indicator this this is a temporary fix and the FO is keeping cap space flexibility for next offseason. Would you rather go all-in now and try to trade for an Ilyasova/ Anderson/ or Milisap as the last piece or keep our '14 pick and wait to use our cap space next season on a forward? It's tempting to make the move now, but I can see the argument for waiting one more offseason. And if this is the course action selected, you'll need a minimum salary fill-ins to fit the role like Jamsion. Not the end of the world...

Fair point, problem is... I don't even like the minimum salaried moves.

I don't necessarily think it's either or though. Potentially trading Nene (for an expiring - don't know what his trade value is or if it's feasible right now) would free up a lot of cap room as well. So theoretically, you could be active this offseason but potentially still maintain significant flexibility next offseason.

[Jay81]

i dont think Randy Wittman would use Jamison for more than mop up time

[dckingsfan]

i dont think Randy Wittman would use Jamison for more than mop up time

If then... he hates players that don't play D. Pickup a second backup PG before you sign Jamison. Or maybe a rim protecting C.

[jivelikenice]

The Jamison move is an indicator this this is a temporary fix and the FO is keeping cap space flexibility for next offseason. Would you rather go all-in now and try to trade for an Ilyasova/ Anderson/ or Milisap as the last piece or keep our '14 pick and wait to use our cap space next season on a forward? It's tempting to make the move now, but I can see the argument for waiting one more offseason. And if this is the course action selected, you'll need a minimum salary fill-ins to fit the role like Jamsion. Not the end of the world...

Fair point, problem is... I don't even like the minimum salaried moves.

I don't necessarily think it's either or though. Potentially trading Nene (for an expiring - don't know what his trade value is or if it's feasible right now) would free up a lot of cap room as well. So theoretically, you could be active this offseason but potentially still maintain significant flexibility next offseason.

Agreed, I just don't think a Nene trade is even in teir thought process at this point, especially with his value at likely a low point.

[MikeTheKid]

Would Psycho T come here on the cheap or S&T since he's a UFA now??? I would love for him to come in and backup the 4 just to be a psycho and get us some boards, energy and hustle!

[Rafael122]

The Jamison move is an indicator this this is a temporary fix and the FO is keeping cap space flexibility for next offseason. Would you rather go all-in now and try to trade for an Ilyasova/ Anderson/ or Milisap as the last piece or keep our '14 pick and wait to use our cap space next season on a forward? It's tempting to make the move now, but I can see the argument for waiting one more offseason. And if this is the course action selected, you'll need a minimum salary fill-ins to fit the role like Jamsion. Not the end of the world...

I'm all in for Cousins in 2014.

[gambitx777]

Webster signs a 4 year deal worth 22 mill. im down with that.

[Deivy202]

Iffy on webster re-signing I mean for his contract but that being said does that mean Ariza now gets shopped around ?. As for Jamison I doubt he be expensive I mean lets face it Vesley possibly wont be ever good and Booker and Jamison can split time...Jasmison was a decent jump shot shooter right?

Geez wish we could get Cousins .

[jivelikenice]

Nate, what's our salary situation looking like for next offseason assuming the options on Vesely and Singleon aren't picked up?

[jivelikenice]

Booker,Vesely, and Singleton are absolutely killing our cap roster maneuverability. They have to find a way to move 1-2 of them and bring in a one year guy like a Jason Smith in a trade.....

[LyricalRico]

Nate, what's our salary situation looking like for next offseason assuming the options on Vesely and Singleon aren't picked up?

If both options are declined and no other multi-year contracts are added, we can have close to $20M in cap space depending on how much the cap goes up. We've already started breaking it down here:

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[Liverbird]

The Wolves just drafted Dieng. What about a S&T for Pekovic?

Trade either Ariza or Okafor with Vesely?

[LyricalRico]

The Wolves just drafted Dieng. What about a S&T for Pekovic?

Trade either Ariza or Okafor with Vesely?

Don't forget that AK47 opted out, so they might be able to bring Pekovic back and avoid the tax even after signing Budinger/Martin. And they have other smaller contracts they could also move to make more space. I'd be surprised if Pekovic ends up elsewhere.

But maybe we can swap one of our young guys for Steimsma? Or maybe a 3-way where we send Ariza to Minny, Barea goes to a third team, and we get Stiemsma and something else?

[Deivy202]

Question who would want Ariza lol.

[Liverbird]

The Wolves just drafted Dieng. What about a S&T for Pekovic?

Trade either Ariza or Okafor with Vesely?

Don't forget that AK47 opted out, so they might be able to bring Pekovic back and avoid the tax even after signing Budinger/Martin. And they have other smaller contracts they could also move to make more space. I'd be surprised if Pekovic ends up elsewhere.

But maybe we can swap one of our young guys for Steimsma? Or maybe a 3-way where we send Ariza to Minny, Barea goes to a third team, and we get Stiemsma and something else?

Yeah. I took a look and they are plenty under the cap even after signing Budinger and Martin.

I think Houston may be a better team having Ariza back. He and Parsons offer plenty of options at the wing and both would play well with SUPERMAN. I think there is an opportunity here - although Morey would skin EG in the bargain.

[Liverbird]

i dont think Randy Wittman would use Jamison for more than mop up time

If then... he hates players that don't play D. Pickup a second backup PG before you sign Jamison. Or maybe a rim protecting C.

The thing is - Otto will be playing with/against him in practice. Jamison's offensive repertoire was impressive and he was also considered "less athletic". Otto fortunately plays defense but I'd be happy if OP could score like Jamison. I gotta say, we have the right tutors for Otto, Beal and GRJr - hopefully they have the right mentality.

There will be games where the Wiz simply cannot score. Jamison will get a little PT.

[truwizfan4evr]

What's wrong with Jamison on a 1 year deal? He could give us some good leadership and a spark off the bench in limited time. I know he doesn't defend well he never been a great defender but wizards d is much improved that we can get away with Jamison liability on d.

[mhd]

What's wrong with Jamison on a 1 year deal? He could give us some good leadership and a spark off the bench in limited time. I know he doesn't defend well he never been a great defender but wizards d is much improved that we can get away with Jamison liability on d.

Did you read Dat's follow up post on Jamison truly pathetic defense? What "leadership" is Jamison going to provide? IMO, he's nowhere near the leader that Emeka and Nene are. At least those two play defense and give effort on the court.

You don't get "away" with a pathetic defender like Jamison ever on the court. Did you watch my sample clip? Its not that he's a bad defender, it's that HE GIVES NO EFFORT. What kind of "leadership" is that? I'd rather have Ves play than Jamison.

[truwizfan4evr]

What's wrong with Jamison on a 1 year deal? He could give us some good leadership and a spark off the bench in limited time. I know he doesn't defend well he never been a great defender but wizards d is much improved that we can get away with Jamison liability on d.

Did you read Dat's follow up post on Jamison truly pathetic defense? What "leadership" is Jamison going to provide? IMO, he's nowhere near the leader that Emeka and Nene are. At least those two play defense and give effort on the court.

You don't get "away" with a pathetic defender like Jamison ever on the court. Did you watch my sample clip? Its not that he's a bad defender, it's that HE GIVES NO EFFORT. What kind of "leadership" is that? I'd rather have Ves play than Jamison.

you may have a point there but what other options do we have for a stretch 4?

[Dat2U]

One guy I've had my eye on as a potential S&T option is Andrei Kirilenko. I don't know about making that move now, considering the money paid to Webster but the idea of Kirilenko as our "stretch 4" is pretty tempting.

Minny needs a defensive 3 so Ariza seems like a good fit and maybe they'd take one of Ernie's Kids.

Wiz trade: Ariza & Booker
Minny trades: Kirilenko (S&T)

New lineup:

CE Okafor / Seraphin
PF Kirilenko / Nene / Vesely
SF Webster / Porter / Rice
SG Beal / Temple
PG Wall / Maynor