Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, Pt. 2

Roland Brice · Post #701 » by **Roland Brice** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:45 pm

Raptor1980 wrote:Derozan
Amir Johnson
Landry Fields
our new first from New York

Aldridge
Wesley Matthews

I dont know what the hell portland would want for aldridge but I'm against the idea of us tanking.

End of next year aldridge and gay expire same time

It seems like the Aldridge trade request rumour wasn't true, because they apparently turned down David Lee.

sweetcity · Post #702 » by **sweetcity** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:25 am

LaMarcus Aldridge is not coming to play basketball in toronto.

UneducatedFan86 · Post #703 » by **UneducatedFan86** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:34 am

I personally wouldn't want Aldridge. He's not going to put us over the top and he's a pretty big injury concern. Plus, we'd have to give up a lot to get him and we'd become pretty weak at a lot of positions. I'd rather just go the selling route and, at this point, build through the draft. Also, we can continue to try and stockpile younger assets and hope they pan out.

douggood · Post #704 » by **douggood** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:57 am

I wonder if Houston if they strike out on Josh Smith might be interested in Gay. Asik + Lin + drafts picks.

Flip Asik for more picks and also make a decision between lin/lowry.

Jermaine OBosh · Post #705 » by **Jermaine OBosh** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:40 am

Rudy for

charlie V (pf)
jonas jerebko (pf)
K Singler (sf)
future 1st round pick.

Demar (9.5) and Camby (4) or Aron gray

Kendrick 9
lamb 2
future 1st round pick.

Rapsfan07 · Post #706 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:03 am

BCfortheWin wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:Woj tweeted that Al Jefferson will be in Charlotte on Wednesday to meet with Bobcat officials...

If MJ is looking to get competitive (which I assume he is if they're interested in signing Jefferson) then perhaps we have a new possible location for Rudy Gay if we look to trade him?

Bobcats assets:
- Kidd-Gilchrist
- Portland's 2014 1st round pick
- Detroit's 2014 1st round pick
- Ben Gordon (expiring contract)

That's a lot of very, very intriguing pieces that could accelerate the rebuild a lot. Something around picks and Gordon for Gay would be something I'd look at. 2014 is a very, very good draft and this would leave us with potentially THREE first round picks (including ours) which could all end up in the lottery...

I would definitely look into trading with the Bobcats, especially if they end up signing Al Jefferson. Thats a win-now move for them, and i'm sure they'd consider trading for our top assets in Gay or Derozan to further their win-now motives.

I'd propose Gay and Derozan for MKG, Gordon (expiring), Detroit's 2014 1st round pick, and even push for Portland's 2014 1st round pick. If we need to throw in Lowry to make it work, i'd do it. We'd be set up to finish last while collecting a great asset in MKG, and two 2014 draft picks.

Precisely what I was thinking.

They're not going to find a cheaper starting quality PG than Lowry and if they really are chasing Jefferson and actually succeed in signing him, they'll need to make additional moves to solidify the team. Bobcats are at a point of weakness right now and Jordan wants to starting winning. Once Jefferson is signed:

To Charlotte: Rudy Gay
To Toronto: Ben Gordon, DET 2014 1st round pick (Top 8 protected), Kidd-Gilchrist.

I'm counting on Jordan's desperation to make that happen but I'd drop MKG from the deal if it was a deal breaker.

Or if we want to make this a blockbuster and speed the process up:

To Charlotte: Rudy Gay, Kyle Lowry, Amir Johnson
To Toronto: Ben Gordon, DET 2014 1st round pick (Top 8 protected), POR 2014 1st round pick (Top 12 protected), Kidd-Gilchrist/Kemba Walker, Tyrus Thomas

Rejected · Post #707 » by **Rejected** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:02 am

DD to OKC for Perkins and Reggie Jackson

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #708 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:04 am

Rejected wrote:DD to OKC for Perkins and Reggie Jackson

Awful.

Rejected · Post #709 » by **Rejected** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:07 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
Rejected wrote:DD to OKC for Perkins and Reggie Jackson

Awful.

And Lamb + 2 seconds?

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #710 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:08 am

Rejected wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
Rejected wrote:DD to OKC for Perkins and Reggie Jackson

Awful.

And Lamb + 2 seconds?

A lot more interesting.

WigginsNation · Post #711 » by **WigginsNation** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:34 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
BCfortheWin wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:Woj tweeted that Al Jefferson will be in Charlotte on Wednesday to meet with Bobcat officials...

If MJ is looking to get competitive (which I assume he is if they're interested in signing Jefferson) then perhaps we have a new possible location for Rudy Gay if we look to trade him?

Bobcats assets:
- Kidd-Gilchrist
- Portland's 2014 1st round pick
- Detroit's 2014 1st round pick
- Ben Gordon (expiring contract)

That's a lot of very, very intriguing pieces that could accelerate the rebuild a lot. Something around picks and Gordon for Gay would be something I'd look at. 2014 is a very, very good draft and this would leave us with potentially THREE first round picks (including ours) which could all end up in the lottery...

I would definitely look into trading with the Bobcats, especially if they end up signing Al Jefferson. Thats a win-now move for them, and i'm sure they'd consider trading for our top assets in Gay or Derozan to further their win-now motives.

I'd propose Gay and Derozan for MKG, Gordon (expiring), Detroit's 2014 1st round pick, and even push for Portland's 2014 1st round pick. If we need to throw in Lowry to make it work, i'd do it. We'd be set up to finish last while collecting a great asset in MKG, and two 2014 draft picks.

Precisely what I was thinking.

They're not going to find a cheaper starting quality PG than Lowry and if they really are chasing Jefferson and actually succeed in signing him, they'll need to make additional moves to solidify the team. Bobcats are at a point of weakness right now and Jordan wants to starting winning. Once Jefferson is signed:

To Charlotte: Rudy Gay
To Toronto: Ben Gordon, DET 2014 1st round pick (Top 8 protected), Kidd-Gilchrist.

I'm counting on Jordan's desperation to make that happen but I'd drop MKG from the deal if it was a deal breaker.

Or if we want to make this a blockbuster and speed the process up:

To Charlotte: Rudy Gay, Kyle Lowry, Amir Johnson
To Toronto: Ben Gordon, DET 2014 1st round pick (Top 8 protected), POR 2014 1st round pick (Top 12 protected), Kidd-Gilchrist/Kemba Walker, Tyrus Thomas

I like that proposal but I would swap Amir for Demar.

DreamTeam09 · Post #712 » by **DreamTeam09** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:46 am

Well if Atlanta want's to tank, how about Lowry + Ross + filler + picks for Horford.

Val / Amir
Horford / Novak / Acy
Gay / Fields
Demar /
/

henrydunn13 · Post #713 » by **henrydunn13** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 6:54 am

To Raptors: Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Terrence Jones, Isaiah Canaan.

To Rockets: Kyle Lowry, Marcus Camby, Landry Fields, 2nd Round Pick

Lin/Canaan
DeRozan/Ross
Gay/Novak/Kleiza
Johnson/Jones/Acy
Valanciunas/Asik

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #714 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 7:22 am

henrydunn13 wrote:To Raptors: Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Terrence Jones, Isaiah Canaan.

To Rockets: Kyle Lowry, Marcus Camby, Landry Fields, 2nd Round Pick

Lin/Canaan
DeRozan/Ross
Gay/Novak/Kleiza
Johnson/Jones/Acy
Valanciunas/Asik

Where have you been? I've missed your creative ideas.

Holla · Post #715 » by **Holla** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 7:25 am

Lowry + Ross + Klieza future 1st round pick for Horford and Lou Williams

2 expirings and a young Ross and a future first for them to start there massive tank if they dont get Dwight (Highly unlikely)

YamiRain · Post #716 » by **YamiRain** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 9:39 am

You all are actually crazy if you believe that.
Charlotte has Kemba, They don't need any PG's & You aren't getting any of those 1st round picks. The tanking has been seasonal. You can have Gordon probably though.

No One knows what Cho is thinkin'....No One knows.

HolyMage110 · Post #717 » by **HolyMage110** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:05 pm

henrydunn13 wrote:To Raptors: Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Terrence Jones, Isaiah Canaan.

To Rockets: Kyle Lowry, Marcus Camby, Landry Fields, 2nd Round Pick

Lin/Canaan
DeRozan/Ross
Gay/Novak/Kleiza
Johnson/Jones/Acy
Valanciunas/Asik

...

you want lin's and asik's horrible contract?! + we give a pick.
smh.

WigginsNation · Post #718 » by **WigginsNation** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:46 pm

Masai really needs to look into trading with the Bobcats. They have some solid young pieces (MKG, Biyombo) along with picks that we could potentially get for Gay or Derozan. And of course Gordon who is a big expiring. We need to start there!

Post #719 » by **theSkinny** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:51 pm

I would love to get MKG away from LOLcat land.

Kidd has potential... not like Derrick Williams who was well coached and still was unable to get anything out of.

If he was playing in San Antonio and they did not have Kahwi Leonard .. he could deveolp into a similar skill set.

brownbobcat · Post #720 » by **brownbobcat** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:03 pm

LA gets: Gay, Lowry
TO gets: MWP, Nash, filler, 2014 pick + 2016 lotto-protected pick

L.A.'s incentive is showing Dwight there is a post-Kobe future, and they also clear more cap room for 2014 by getting rid of Nash's extra year. They get the inside track on re-signing Rudy in case they don't land the big fish in free agency. Even a core of Dwight/Rudy/Tier 2 "star" could make some noise.

Toronto's incentive is hoping getting a fan favourite to appease the crowds during the tank and there's still a good chance LA could miss the playoffs in a tough Western Conference if Kobe doesn't return to full strength.