Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2

deneem4 · Post #1401 » by **deneem4** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:37 pm

Wow timberwolves will be a tough team nxt yr

Post #1402 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:52 pm

pcbothwel wrote:Budinger got 3/16...Basically Martells deal without the team option. I still like martells more

Also, Redick got 4/27 (presumably fully guaranteed) with a trade kicker. Martell's deal pretty much reflects the market IMO, and all the shooters getting snatched up today showed why the team had to act fast.

Post #1403 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:53 pm

fishercob wrote:BIg 3-way between the Suns, Clips and Bucks!

Man, they pick up Bledsoe and will have to extend him after just signing Dragic longterm. Wonder if they can play together?

fishercob wrote:I still think the Clips need more/better bigs to legitimately contend.

Nene?

FAH1223 · Post #1404 » by **FAH1223** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:11 am

Kevin Martin got 4 years $28 million from the T-Wolves

Splitter got 4 years $36 million. Good value for him.. Spurs were the 3rd best rated defense this year. He just sucked in the finals and became soft.

If the Spurs get a wing to replace Captain Jack who can create.. They will go back to the finals assuming Timmy is himself for another year.

fishercob · Post #1405 » by **fishercob** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:30 am

Remember when Sam Presti was a genius?

Then he traded the league's best young shooting guard for a year of Kevin Martin, a guy who spent most of the year in the D-League, and a guy who averaged 7 PPG in the Big East.

The Harden deal was an unmitigated disaster for OKC.

Post #1406 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:12 am

With the way teams are throwing out money, it makes you wonder what the point of the lockout was.

Post #1407 » by **montestewart** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:16 am

Rafael122 wrote:With the way teams are throwing out money, it makes you wonder what the point of the lockout was.

Well yeah, and at some point down the line almost all the teams will have spent almost all their money, with decent or even quite good players still available. Just as Wall/Beal/Porter are hitting their stride, but before they all have to be resigned. That would have a been a good time to have a little cap space.

Post #1408 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:21 am

montestewart wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:With the way teams are throwing out money, it makes you wonder what the point of the lockout was.

Well yeah, and at some point down the line almost all the teams will have spent almost all their money, with decent or even quite good players still available. Just as Wall/Beal/Porter are hitting their stride, but before they all have to be resigned. That would have a been a good time to have a little cap space.

Tony Allen got the entire MLE. The guy can't shoot. Granted he's an elite defender but you're playing 5 on 4 on the offensive end.

This helps our case though, because the teams you thought were going to have a lot of cap space are spending recklessly this offseason.

Deeptu McPullup · Post #1409 » by **Deeptu McPullup** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:24 am

Rafael122 wrote:With the way teams are throwing out money, it makes you wonder what the point of the lockout was.

This gets brought up a lot, but it swung the balance of revenue devoted to the players versus the owners. The players previously received 57% of revenue with that being downgraded to 51.15% under the new agreement.

No matter what contracts are handed out, the players will always receive 51.15% of the revenue (as calculated by a particular formula to create the BRI, so it's a little more complicated than that). They can't get any more or any less than that no matter what - if all 30 teams are over the cap, the players get 51.15%. If all 30 teams are below the salary floor, the players get 51.15%.

The actual contracts just swing the specifics of who is paying and who is getting paid within that agreement.

Post #1410 » by **W. Unseld** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:32 pm

The Reddick/Budinger deals have to have people feeling better about Webster's deal.

I'm shaking my head on 45 million for Splitter b/c I'd love for the Spurs to be able to retool and Splitter looked terrible in the finals.

pancakes3 · Post #1411 » by **pancakes3** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:43 pm

When I heard the Spurs had cap room this off-season I was pretty excited for them. However from what their fans on realgm were saying, nobody was really expecting much shake-up and really was just going to stay the course.

fishercob · Post #1412 » by **fishercob** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:46 pm

deneem4 wrote:Wow timberwolves will be a tough team nxt yr

Their offensive improvement will be mitigated by the defensive decline.

deneem4 · Post #1413 » by **deneem4** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:48 pm

Defense doesnt matter in the west...

fishercob · Post #1414 » by **fishercob** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 7:13 pm

Manu re-signs for 2 years, $14M. So for those of you scoring at home (or even if you're alone), the Spurs keep Manu and Splitter for $2M less than they paid last year.

truwizfan4evr · Post #1415 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 2:31 am

Al Jefferson spent past a day and a half with the Bobcats, per ESPN.com's Chris Broussard.

Post #1416 » by **montestewart** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 2:58 am

deneem4 wrote:Defense doesnt matter in the west...

Out west, the best defense is a good offense.

Deeptu McPullup · Post #1417 » by **Deeptu McPullup** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 3:16 am

truwizfan4evr wrote:Al Jefferson spent past a day and a half with the Bobcats, per ESPN.com's Chris Broussard.

Follow up tweet:

@Chris Broussard Jefferson talks with teams on hold as he schedules emergency session with therapist

AFM · Post #1418 » by **AFM** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 3:37 am

I'm more interested in Al Harrington.

MY NAMES AL HARRINGTON, AND I GET BUCKETS

mhd · Post #1419 » by **mhd** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 2:20 pm

Jefferson is looking at 4 years, 60 million??? Who in their right mind would pay THAT??

verbal8 · Post #1420 » by **verbal8** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 2:46 pm

mhd wrote:Jefferson is looking at 4 years, 60 million??? Who in their right mind would pay THAT??

This is NBA free agency we are talking about. GMs seem to rarely be in their right minds this time of year.