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BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani

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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4081 » by Lord Commander » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:14 pm

Romaniano wrote:MELO found his scottie pippen (bargs).

right faithful NYK fans?


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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4082 » by Anotha Knicks fan » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:15 pm

Romaniano wrote:MELO found his scottie pippen (bargs).

right faithful NYK fans?

ok the first jab was forgiven as you bring a nice avi, but now you're being an idiot. GTFOH with this crap troll.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4083 » by northernpuppy » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:17 pm

Anotha Knicks fan wrote:
Romaniano wrote:MELO found his scottie pippen (bargs).

right faithful NYK fans?

ok the first jab was forgiven as you bring a nice avi, but now you're being an idiot. GTFOH with this crap troll.


As one Toronto sportscaster said yesterday, AB could easily put up 20 ppg next year...but that could be for NYK or Bologna in Italy.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4084 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:18 pm

northernpuppy wrote:
Anotha Knicks fan wrote:
Romaniano wrote:MELO found his scottie pippen (bargs).

right faithful NYK fans?

ok the first jab was forgiven as you bring a nice avi, but now you're being an idiot. GTFOH with this crap troll.


As one Toronto sportscaster said yesterday, AB could easily put up 20 ppg next year...but that could be for NYK or Bologna in Italy.


What does this even mean? :lol:
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4085 » by DE FENSE » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:20 pm

These clowns rooting for this guy to fail. He's off your team, be happy if you hate him so much!
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4086 » by JustaKnickFan » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:20 pm

kane2021 wrote:This isnt a bad deal. We move dead weight to fill a need. Bargs is not a great player. But two bench players who dont play for a starter is a good deal. The picks are meaningless. We are a playoff team. The tim hardaway jrs of the world are not impacting enough to make us better. I think its a good pickup. My only complaint about the picks is we cannot sweeten another deal. We get a solid player to fill a need but hes not cut from the cloth of the type of player we need to take us further.

It isn't?

Bargs is a starter? They ended up having to bench him because of how bad Bargs was playing, and it wasn't like it's hard to play PF in Toronto, because Ed Davis flourished once Bargs got injured and he was forced to start.

We're a 2nd round at best team, that is stuck trying to compete with young and up-and-coming teams like Pacers, and the Heat. A trash player like Bargs isn't going to immediately make this team a contender, and it's a total pipe dream if you think he's dropping 20, or even 15, a game.

The picks are not meaningless. We have no idea how Denver or us will be in those years. It's not a crazy assumption that we're both bad. Also, those 2nd and 1st rounders give teams very valuable and cheap role players. The Knicks situation alone should be enough for you guys to understand how important draft picks are. Look at the Spurs, always a contender and never a big player in FA. They just plug in role players through the draft. Also, they're not just Tim Hardaway Jrs that can be found. There are plenty of starters that can be picked in the later rounds.

Bargs isn't a solid player. He's supposed to be going into his prime but the past two years he's regressed. He's supposed to fill Stoudemire's void at PF, yet he's constantly injured. He's supposed to be able to stretch the floor, yet last season he only shot 31% from 3.

How exactly does he help with this team's rebounding as well? By doing this the Knicks are making it that much easier for themselves to get dominated by a team like the Pacers in the boards.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4087 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:22 pm

JustaKnickFan wrote:
kane2021 wrote:This isnt a bad deal. We move dead weight to fill a need. Bargs is not a great player. But two bench players who dont play for a starter is a good deal. The picks are meaningless. We are a playoff team. The tim hardaway jrs of the world are not impacting enough to make us better. I think its a good pickup. My only complaint about the picks is we cannot sweeten another deal. We get a solid player to fill a need but hes not cut from the cloth of the type of player we need to take us further.

It isn't?

Bargs is a starter? They ended up having to bench him because of how bad Bargs was playing, and it wasn't like it's hard to play PF in Toronto, because Ed Davis flourished once Bargs got injured and he was forced to start.

We're a 2nd round at best team, that is stuck trying to compete with young and up-and-coming teams like Pacers, and the Heat. A trash player like Bargs isn't going to immediately make this team a contender, and it's a total pipe dream if you think he's dropping 20, or even 15, a game.

The picks are not meaningless. We have no idea how Denver or us will be in those years. It's not a crazy assumption that we're both bad. Also, those 2nd and 1st rounders give teams very valuable and cheap role players. The Knicks situation alone should be enough for you guys to understand how important draft picks are. Look at the Spurs, always a contender and never a big player in FA. They just plug in role players through the draft. Also, they're not just Tim Hardaway Jrs that can be found. There are plenty of starters that can be picked in the later rounds.

Bargs isn't a solid player. He's supposed to be going into his prime but the past two years he's regressed. He's supposed to fill Stoudemire's void at PF, yet he's constantly injured. He's supposed to be able to stretch the floor, yet last season he only shot 31% from 3.

How exactly does he help with this team's rebounding as well? By doing this the Knicks are making it that much easier for themselves to get dominated by a team like the Pacers in the boards.


We traded Novak and a 1st :lol:
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4088 » by JustaKnickFan » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:25 pm

GONYK wrote:
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kane2021 wrote:This isnt a bad deal. We move dead weight to fill a need. Bargs is not a great player. But two bench players who dont play for a starter is a good deal. The picks are meaningless. We are a playoff team. The tim hardaway jrs of the world are not impacting enough to make us better. I think its a good pickup. My only complaint about the picks is we cannot sweeten another deal. We get a solid player to fill a need but hes not cut from the cloth of the type of player we need to take us further.

It isn't?

Bargs is a starter? They ended up having to bench him because of how bad Bargs was playing, and it wasn't like it's hard to play PF in Toronto, because Ed Davis flourished once Bargs got injured and he was forced to start.

We're a 2nd round at best team, that is stuck trying to compete with young and up-and-coming teams like Pacers, and the Heat. A trash player like Bargs isn't going to immediately make this team a contender, and it's a total pipe dream if you think he's dropping 20, or even 15, a game.

The picks are not meaningless. We have no idea how Denver or us will be in those years. It's not a crazy assumption that we're both bad. Also, those 2nd and 1st rounders give teams very valuable and cheap role players. The Knicks situation alone should be enough for you guys to understand how important draft picks are. Look at the Spurs, always a contender and never a big player in FA. They just plug in role players through the draft. Also, they're not just Tim Hardaway Jrs that can be found. There are plenty of starters that can be picked in the later rounds.

Bargs isn't a solid player. He's supposed to be going into his prime but the past two years he's regressed. He's supposed to fill Stoudemire's void at PF, yet he's constantly injured. He's supposed to be able to stretch the floor, yet last season he only shot 31% from 3.

How exactly does he help with this team's rebounding as well? By doing this the Knicks are making it that much easier for themselves to get dominated by a team like the Pacers in the boards.


We traded Novak and a 1st :lol:

And 2 2nd rounders, and cash.

2 2nd rounders was the difference for the Clippers to get a big time FA they wanted.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4089 » by Rasho Brezec » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:25 pm

And we didn't even fill our biggest needs with it.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4090 » by magnumt » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:26 pm

Romaniano wrote:lmao I will be watching every single NYK game I can catch to see how fans embrace this 7 foot pile of waste.


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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4091 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:26 pm

JustaKnickFan wrote:
GONYK wrote:
JustaKnickFan wrote:It isn't?

Bargs is a starter? They ended up having to bench him because of how bad Bargs was playing, and it wasn't like it's hard to play PF in Toronto, because Ed Davis flourished once Bargs got injured and he was forced to start.

We're a 2nd round at best team, that is stuck trying to compete with young and up-and-coming teams like Pacers, and the Heat. A trash player like Bargs isn't going to immediately make this team a contender, and it's a total pipe dream if you think he's dropping 20, or even 15, a game.

The picks are not meaningless. We have no idea how Denver or us will be in those years. It's not a crazy assumption that we're both bad. Also, those 2nd and 1st rounders give teams very valuable and cheap role players. The Knicks situation alone should be enough for you guys to understand how important draft picks are. Look at the Spurs, always a contender and never a big player in FA. They just plug in role players through the draft. Also, they're not just Tim Hardaway Jrs that can be found. There are plenty of starters that can be picked in the later rounds.

Bargs isn't a solid player. He's supposed to be going into his prime but the past two years he's regressed. He's supposed to fill Stoudemire's void at PF, yet he's constantly injured. He's supposed to be able to stretch the floor, yet last season he only shot 31% from 3.

How exactly does he help with this team's rebounding as well? By doing this the Knicks are making it that much easier for themselves to get dominated by a team like the Pacers in the boards.


We traded Novak and a 1st :lol:

And 2 2nd rounders, and cash.

2 2nd rounders was the difference for the Clippers to get a big time FA they wanted.


No, it wasn't. Having Eric Bledsoe was.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4092 » by JustaKnickFan » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:30 pm

GONYK wrote:
JustaKnickFan wrote:
GONYK wrote:
We traded Novak and a 1st :lol:

And 2 2nd rounders, and cash.

2 2nd rounders was the difference for the Clippers to get a big time FA they wanted.


No, it wasn't. Having Eric Bledsoe was.

MIL wouldn't be accepting the trade if they didn't get anything in return. The 2nd rounders gave them something, so that made the difference and the deal was made. Bledsoe was the bigger piece obviously, but those 2 2nd rounders were crucial for satisfying the Bucks.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4093 » by magnumt » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:34 pm

We traded ONE 2nd Rounder, not two.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4094 » by Grinditout » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:35 pm

magnumt wrote:We traded ONE 2nd Rounder, not two.

I thought it was two?
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4095 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:35 pm

magnumt wrote:We traded ONE 2nd Rounder, not two.


False.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4096 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:36 pm

JustaKnickFan wrote:
GONYK wrote:
JustaKnickFan wrote:And 2 2nd rounders, and cash.

2 2nd rounders was the difference for the Clippers to get a big time FA they wanted.


No, it wasn't. Having Eric Bledsoe was.

MIL wouldn't be accepting the trade if they didn't get anything in return. The 2nd rounders gave them something, so that made the difference and the deal was made. Bledsoe was the bigger piece obviously, but those 2 2nd rounders were crucial for satisfying the Bucks.


Yes, I'm sure the Buck fans are screaming victory for securing 2 second rounders from a sure fire playoff team.

I can remember how excited we were when we got OKC's second rounder in February. :lol:

The deal wasn't built around second rounders, and we can still trade 2nd rounders going forward.
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4097 » by Rasho Brezec » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:36 pm

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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4098 » by Knick Swisher » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:39 pm

camillepd wrote:There are reports out of Toronto that the Knicks are also sending enough cash in the trade to pay Q-Rich's salary. therefore, GG has already given up 1.4 mill out of our newly replenished 3 mil allotment and we have no picks next summer.

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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4099 » by Knicksfan20 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:40 pm

Off topic... Since we dont have a 2016 first, do we have our 2014 and 2015 first founders still?
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Re: BREAKING **** NEWS: Deal #done Knicks acquire Bargnani 

Post#4100 » by seren » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:41 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Off topic... Since we dont have a 2016 first, do we have our 2014 and 2015 first founders still?


We traded away '14 pick in Melo deal. Luckily, the CBA prevents teams to trade away consecutive picks so we still have '15 pick. We would have traded it if we could.

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