Webster re-ups for 4 years/22 million dollars

[DCsOwn]

Really! A log jam might mean you had two really good players at one position, neither of whom is a major injury risk. We don't have a log jam at any position!

We won 29 games last year. At our best, when we were healthy, we posted a .500 record. A log jam is the least of our worries. Improving the talent level of our roster is what we should be focusing on. I think we took a step in the draft, then a small step backwards w/ Maynor. Lets see what's next.

To be fair, we were quite a bit better than .500 when we were "healthy". Remember, we finished the season on a six game losing streak with John playing but we were trotting like seven players out there each of those games with no Nene, Beal, Webster, Okafor, Ariza etc. Those games don't count in my book. When Wall, Beal and Nene played together I think we were something like seven or eight games above .500, and a number of those losses occurred when John was working himself back into a groove. I do agree with your broader point though, I'm not sure we have much of a logjam anywhere, especially if Ariza's dealt. We have a number of PFs for example, but we don't know that any of them are deserving of extensive rotation minutes aside from Okafor/Nene (whichever is nominally playing the four). Every other position is adequately stocked IMO. Wall, Maynor at the one, Beal and Rice jr at the two, Webster, Porter and Singleton at the three, and Okafor and Nene at the five.

And if you want to go full homer, Nene was never healthy and was actually seriously considering it quits during the season. His injury dramatically effected his season. Assuming he get proper rest this summer, he'll be a different player next winter as long as he can stay healthy, always a big question w/him.

If healthy, this team will finish as a 5 or a 6 seed w/a little bit of a chance as a 4, and will probably win 45-50, if reasonably healthy, it's probably 42-48 wins.

I think so too. It's been a generation since we've won 50 games, literally a generation. I want that streak to end this season and I think it will given relatively good health. I really think we have a quality group assembled.

[tontoz]

Well we'd better hope Webster doesn't return to his career norms. It's overpay for half a season of good play when he was a below average player for 6 out of his 7 NBA seasons.

I just don't think I could be talked into liking a deal where we give $22 mil (or $19 mil) to a SF when we just drafted our SF of the future at #3. I still think it's a poor allocation of resources considering the holes elsewhere on the roster. We needed talent, but it wasn't a necessity at SF anymore, it became a luxury when Porter was the pick. The lack of depth elsewhere really didn't allow for such luxuries IMO.

I thought he played well the entire season. He shot at or above 40% during every month in the season except for the final month where he was injured. I wouldn't expect him to shoot 56% like he did in March.

While that is true he doesn't bring much to the table other than shooting. That is why his PER was only 14 in his career year. If he isn't hitting 3s he isnt worth much.

Given that we have Ariza and just drafted 2 guys who can play the 3 i don't see why there was such a sense of unrgency to overpay Webster. Thankfully we only had the MLE available or there is no telling how much EG would have spent on him.

[closg00]

I guess most people here are overlooking the fact that Webster has spent a good part of his career sidelined due to his back problem. He couldn't finish -out last season with us due to injury. These are factors that should be taken into account when accessing his value/contract.

[relinquishy]

Well we'd better hope Webster doesn't return to his career norms. It's overpay for half a season of good play when he was a below average player for 6 out of his 7 NBA seasons.

I just don't think I could be talked into liking a deal where we give $22 mil (or $19 mil) to a SF when we just drafted our SF of the future at #3. I still think it's a poor allocation of resources considering the holes elsewhere on the roster. We needed talent, but it wasn't a necessity at SF anymore, it became a luxury when Porter was the pick. The lack of depth elsewhere really didn't allow for such luxuries IMO.

I thought he played well the entire season. He shot at or above 40% during every month in the season except for the final month where he was injured. I wouldn't expect him to shoot 56% like he did in March.

While that is true he doesn't bring much to the table other than shooting. That is why his PER was only 14 in his career year. If he isn't hitting 3s he isnt worth much.

Given that we have Ariza and just drafted 2 guys who can play the 3 i don't see why there was such a sense of unrgency to overpay Webster. Thankfully we only had the MLE available or there is no telling how much EG would have spent on him.

You are completely ignoring the fact that he is an above average defender.

[WIZKID]

Based other signings it doesnt look bad at all

82 games need some depth, you dont play 5 guys 48 minutes

It has been reported hes a good locker room guy
and his style of play (spot up shooter) should keep him pretty healthy

Hopefully the wiz can find a 4 or 5 with ariza
Maybe Keven Seraphin will bounce back, not so hopefull for ves or singleton

And even if ariza and okafor dont come back next year wiz wont be cap
Strapped, though they might have trouble getting top line frt line fa to come to
The dmv

If nothing else wall, beal, porter if healthy will make it fun to watch and hopefully

More competetive than the recent past.

What role does t booker have? Is he the8th-9th man is it 3 or 4 I am always confused by his true role/position
Please advise me??

[tontoz]

You are completely ignoring the fact that he is an above average defender.

The Wolves gave up 6 more ppg with Webster on the floor during his 2 seasons there. Fortunately that number dropped to 1.1 this year.

[tontoz]

82 games need some depth, you dont play 5 guys 48 minutes

Depth is the problem, everywhere other than the wings.

[LyricalRico]

Depth is the problem, everywhere other than the wings.

And there are almost 4 months of offseason left for us to take care of that. No need to give up on July 3rd. LOL

[verbal8]

What role does t booker have? Is he the8th-9th man is it 3 or 4 I am always confused by his true role/position
Please advise me??

On the Wizards roster he is quite clearly a back-up PF. I think that is probably his strongest position. He can be used occasionally to defend some of the big elite SFs, but he doesn't have the offensive skills of a full-time SF.

[tontoz]

Depth is the problem, everywhere other than the wings.

And there are almost 4 months of offseason left for us to take care of that. No need to give up on July 3rd. LOL

The free agent money is already spent on July 3rd.

The only other ways they could add depth are a trade or min contract players. Ariza is probably the only guy other teams want that we would be willing to move.

Just out of curiosity i checked out Webster's numbers at the combine. I was surprised to see he had standing reach of 8'10". His max vert was only 30.5" and his sprint time was the same as Otto

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Depth is the problem, everywhere other than the wings.

And there are almost 4 months of offseason left for us to take care of that. No need to give up on July 3rd. LOL

The free agent money is already spent on July 3rd.

The only other ways they could add depth are a trade or min contract players. Ariza is probably the only guy other teams want that we would be willing to move.

Just out of curiosity i checked out Webster's numbers at the combine. I was surprised to see he had standing reach of 8'10". His max vert was only 30.5" and his sprint time was the same as Otto

I may be wrong but I believe with the current roster salary even another addition at the vet min would put us over the tax which we all know Ted isn't gonna do. That said, unless Ariza gets dealt we are probably done.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Based other signings it doesnt look bad at all

I do like Webster. Quite a bit in fact.

Great guy, good shooter, passable defender.

However, I'd have preferred Korver for 3 years/$20m.

Korver is a 3/4 whereas Martell is a 2/3... I've seen a few Bulls games and Hawks games live the past couple of years and KK does indeed hold his own defending in the post when need be. By playing him occasionally with two guards and another small forward, his teams have really been able to space the floor.

They might trade 2s for 3s... but, hey, three is better than two, right?

I would have loved stretch runs in games with Wall, Beal, PorteRiza, Korver, Nene.

[LyricalRico]

^ Korver at the 4? Ewwww....

[WizardsWorld]

Tad overpaid, but hey this guy was great for us this past season on and off the court, real well-spoken leader. And like most have pointed out the fourth year partial guarantee along with Webster's age make this deal perfectly fine with me. But of course it took 8 pages of whining from the typical "anything EG does is wrong crowd" for some of the more sensible people to come around.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Very happy with the signing. If we would have let him walk to another team everyone would be crying about how EG let him walk. Now that we signed him... everyone complaining we kept him. Everything EG does isn't horrible.... just a lot of the things he has done in the past have been.

[montestewart]

Everything EG does isn't horrible

Supposedly, his mixed grill kebabs aren't half bad.

[dangermouse]

If Korver got 24/4, we got a steal.

[montestewart]

I don't know about a steal, but it's bothering my cheap @$$ less than it did on day 1.

[nate33]

Korver is a 3/4 whereas Martell is a 2/3.

Webster can play PF better than Korver. Korver has a standing reach of 8'-6.5". Webster has a standing reach of 8'-10" and probably has at least 10 pounds on Korver. (Webster weighed 19 pounds more the Korver when drafted, but who knows exactly how much either guy has gained over the years.)

[montestewart]

Korver is a 3/4 whereas Martell is a 2/3.

Webster can play PF better than Korver. Korver has a standing reach of 8'-6.5". Webster has a standing reach of 8'-10" and probably has at least 10 pounds on Korver. (Webster weighed 19 pounds more the Korver when drafted, but who knows exactly how much either guy has gained over the years.)

Not like I watch a ton of Kyle Korver, but I've never seen him in any set where he was the PF. I guess I could imagine it in a brief small ball sequence.

[nate33]

I can't recall a single quality contract he's resigned a player for over the past decade, every single one of them was an idiotic overpay, one wonders what might have happened if Blatche hadn't killed part of his market value with another run in the for the law leading up to his free agency several years ago.

EG resigned Haywood to a very good deal. He resigned Butler to a good deal. He resigned Jamison to a deal that I thought was an overpayment, but it turned out that he was able to move Jamison and his contract for cap relief and a pick so EG was proven right. EG also had the wisdom NOT to match Hughes or Jeffries.

Let's not rewrite history here. EG doesn't always screw up. I think he's pretty bad in the first round of the draft (or particularly in his willingness to trade draft picks), but I think, on balance, he's fairly average in playing the free agency market.