Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIX Offseason Edition)

[Dgbarnes]

I think this helps us in the tank project next year:

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 22h
Source confirms @ESPNSteinLine report that the Bobcats have a verbal agreement w/Al Jefferson for 3 yrs, $41.5M. Player option after yr. 2.

[yoyojw17]

I don't see Portland getting involved in this trade, it really doesn't make sense for them. They don't want to and certainly don't appear ready to move Aldridge, despite any rumors. It's just too early for them to get involved.

If a deal happens it's going to be a straight salary dump by GSW and we're not going to be unloading any contracts unless that move has an immediate impact on GSW's cap - meaning, Turk or Al, if they were to turn around and immediately exercise their releases.

But they don't need us to do that. They need us to absorb around 15-18 Million in salary so they have the room to sign Dwight. That's two of those players, and if we do that to facilitate the deal, we obviously want something in return. Is Bogut enough of a return? Maybe he is, but I question his health. I'm guessing either one young player or a pick or two would have to be involved to incent us to take such a deal.

Now, could you then chase Aldridge later on? Well, maybe, but I can't see that getting wrapped in here.

yeah.... I don't see them getting involved either...or moving Aldridge. They've done well this offseason...picking up CJ...which i think will make a nice tandem with lillard. And they've made it a point to add defensive centers like Withey and Lopez. I think they will be a much improved team compared to last season. kind of excited for them.

Orlando helping to facilitate a GSW pickup of Howard would be very feasible. And i think they would much prefer to give away picks than either barnes or thompson. only in and extreme situation would they do that. bogut + fillers + a couple of 1st round picks (though low) aren't bad at all while still maintaining cap flexibility.

OK, I think everyone has no clue about GSWs cap situation. They have $70mil in salary and need to get rid of all 3 of those contracts in order to have room for Dwight (unless they work out a sign-and-trade). I don't foresee us getting just some crappy late 1st round picks for taking on two horrendous contracts. So Bogut needs to find a landing spot and we have to be getting back a decent asset in return. Who is in the market for a solid big man?

Portland
Miami
OKC
Cleveland
maybe Atlanta
Toronto
Houston (doubt they would help Dwight to GSW)
Utah
Denver

Anybody else?

Which of those teams may be interested in Bogut and who could they give back?

Maybe Bogut and Afflalo to Utah and they give us back Millsap (sign and trade)?

I'm guessing it was my use of the word "fillers"...that makes it seem that i was meaning Jefferson or Biedrin. but that's who i was referring to...because out of those guys...the only one i had any interest in is Bogut....because he is a good defender and might look good next to Vucevic....the other two could be cut for all i cared. Unless biedrin decides..."I want to put up career numbers again and get another overpaid contract. but if we have the ability to help....I don't see why not. Even if it was just Bogut/Biedrin + 1 pick.....and then they pawn off another player + pick to another team...i would be happy as well.

but yes....I do understand that they have to clear a ton of space. It might just be hard for them to do in one deal

[Orlando Tragic]

I think this helps us in the tank project next year:

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 22h
Source confirms @ESPNSteinLine report that the Bobcats have a verbal agreement w/Al Jefferson for 3 yrs, $41.5M. Player option after yr. 2.

Agree. So who are canidates for bottom 5 teams next year?
Orlando, Philly, Sacremento, Suns....?

[OrlChamps2030]

John Denton ‏@JohnDenton555 1m
#Magic Mo Harkless put lots of work in weightroom. Max bench up from 200 to 230 lbs. Before: Benched 185 lbs 5 X now 15 X. Weight up to 222.
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My God, I am always shocked at how weak professional athletes are sometimes.

Same here.. But it seems more like basketball players more than anything. Length makes lifting more difficult.

[OrlandO]

It's encouraging because he shot it in college, he has decent range.

He only made 29 total threes in four years of college, where the line is shorter. Lots of NBA players make 3s in practice. It will be encouraging when he makes them at an efficient rate in NBA games. Personally, I'd prefer for him to master the mid to long range two before stepping out to the 3pt line.

But AN didn't start shooting 3's until his junior year and his shooting % went up during his senior year even though he shot twice as many 3's as his junior year. Granted, the sample size is small, but its at least reason to believe it could be a useful tool for him even if he doesn't turn into Ryan Anderson.

Which is why I'm not surprised he can make some threes in practice, but I'm not going to get my hopes up that he will start making them efficiently in games or that he will even take that many. Chris Bosh shot a high 3pt percentage with a small sample size in college. He's made 87 at 28% over 10 years in the NBA.

[RYgoBOOM]

John Denton ‏@JohnDenton555 14m
#Magic @moe_harkless on @VicOladipo "I’m already in love with the kid’s game. He goes hard. He really plays in control & can play PG and SG"

[Catledge]

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress 54m
Dante Exum putting on a show here in Prague--scoring, defending, distributing and everything else. Australia up 35-22 on Spain. #fibau19

Danny Chau ‏@dannychau 14m
Jeez, Dante Exum's talent level is about three tiers higher than anyone else sharing the court with him right now.

Fran Fraschilla ‏@franfraschilla 5m
Every now & then over thirty years you watch someone special. Today it's Dante Exum. 22 points as Aussies surprising Spain right now, 66-48.

Fran Fraschilla ‏@franfraschilla 8m
Mark this down: Dante Exum could go in Top 5 next June.

Time to start paying attention to Exum.

I've already started my own personal scouting for next season. My hope is that we get a top 5 pick, that's all that I ask. Truthfully, in my opinion, there are at least 7 franchise players next draft. If we could somehow get 2...

My top 5 in order (followed by 2):

Wiggins
Parker
Randle
Gordon
Exum

Smart
Aaron Harrison

History tells us that at least one of those will be a Darko/Oden-level bust, and 3-5 will be only pretty good, as opposed to franchise quality.

More than half of the teams tanking for next year's draft will waste a year for nothing. The one or two who hit a home run will look brilliant, but the half-dozen that aren't significantly better will look foolish.

[Noonskadoodle]

2 MORE DAYS TILL WE CRUSH THE CELTICS!!!

[KingRobb02]

I think this helps us in the tank project next year:

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 22h
Source confirms @ESPNSteinLine report that the Bobcats have a verbal agreement w/Al Jefferson for 3 yrs, $41.5M. Player option after yr. 2.

Agree. So who are canidates for bottom 5 teams next year?
Orlando, Philly, Sacremento, Suns....?

The fifth team is probably Milwaukee.

Two dominoes waiting to fall are Andrew Bynum and which team gets bogut. If either of those guys plays 60+ games in Atlanta or some other lesser team, the entire tanking situation gets a face-lift.

[londoncollin]

Golden State isn't trading Curry, Klay, or Barnes. Rush is obtainable.

You do realize the Warriors are beggars and not choosers right?

They're not beggars. Bogut could be moved pretty easily. Lee too. They'd rather move other people instead of them cuz they're bigger chips.

[doct3r dr3]

Ugh, we don't really need AN shooting 3s. He is not Al Harrington.

He is arguably our best post scorer.

He's also arguably one of our best midrange/long range shooters:


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Code: Select all


Player       FGM  FGA  FG%
J. McRoberts  9 16 .562
K. O'Quinn    13 26 .500
A. Afflalo    91 183 .497
A. Nicholson  27 58 .466
B. Udrih      55 121 .455
N. Vucevic    49 115 .426
G. Davis      34 86 .395
T. Harris     21 58 .362
J.J. Redick   18 50 .360
E. Moore      21 69 .304
G. Ayon       4 15 .267
M. Harkless   7 28 .250
D. Lamb       7 28 .250
I. Smith      5 21 .238
D. Jones      3 15 .200
A. Harrington 0 1 .000
H. Turkoglu   0 3 .000


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Player       FGM  FGA  FG%
T. Harris     24 46 .522
J.J. Redick   99 211 .469
D. Jones      20 43 .465
K. O'Quinn    21 46 .457
A. Nicholson  73 161 .453
B. Udrih      60 140 .429
N. Vucevic    84 198 .424
A. Afflalo    84 208 .404
G. Ayon        8 21 .381
J. McRoberts  23 64 .359
A. Harrington  2 6 .333
E. Moore      49 152 .322
D. Lamb       10 32 .312
G. Davis      37 129 .287
I. Smith       9 33 .273
H. Turkoglu    1 6 .167
M. Harkless    4 34 .118


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(Combined)

Code: Select all

Player        FGM  FGA  FG%
K. O'Quinn    34 72 .472
A. Nicholson  100 219 .457
J.J. Redick   117 261 .448
A. Afflalo    175 391 .448
B. Udrih      115 261 .441
T. Harris     45 104 .433
N. Vucevic    133 313 .425
J. McRoberts  32 80 .400
D. Jones      23 58 .397
G. Ayon       12 36 .333
G. Davis      71 215 .330
E. Moore      70 221 .317
A. Harrington 2 7 .286
D. Lamb       17 60 .283
I. Smith      14 54 .259
M. Harkless   11 62 .177
H. Turkoglu   1 9 .111


[meatwad4343]

drew could really take the next step offensively if he can add a reliable 3 pointer to his game. hopefully he's been working hard on his defense too.

[Noonskadoodle]

@janiscarr
Dwight has made his decision. Said he will announce his destination via Twitter possibly this weekend

Of course he will....

[meatwad4343]

@janiscarr
Dwight has made his decision. Said he will announce his destination via Twitter possibly this weekend

Of course he will....

this guy never ceases to amaze me. everytime i think he can't possibly look like more of a douche and a moron, he does something like this. i guess he feels like holding 6 teams hostage for a few more days. i'm so glad he isn't our headache anymore.

[backasswards]

@janiscarr
Dwight has made his decision. Said he will announce his destination via Twitter possibly this weekend

Of course he will....

I don't understand the point in delaying the announcement. If he knows right now, why not get this hole circus over with? Oh that's right, Dwight is an insecure baby who loves th attention.

[meatwad4343]

@janiscarr
Dwight has made his decision. Said he will announce his destination via Twitter possibly this weekend

Of course he will....

I don't understand the point in delaying the announcement. If he knows right now, why not get this hole circuits over with? Oh that's right, Dwight is an insecure baby who loves th attention.

i could honestly see him signing a one year deal just so he can pull this crap again next year

[Def Swami]

@janiscarr
Dwight has made his decision. Said he will announce his destination via Twitter possibly this weekend

Of course he will....

I don't understand the point in delaying the announcement. If he knows right now, why not get this hole circus over with? Oh that's right, Dwight is an insecure baby who loves th attention.

I agree. I also think the reason he could delay the announcement is to give time to one of the teams to make a trade.

[Noonskadoodle]

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[InFlames]

If he was staying in LA I feel like he would just announce that immediately. I think it means hes going to Hou or GS since he said he will announce it possibly this weekend.

[PeePee la Fritz]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI83UXuBa5s&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Lol leave it to Sheldon