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Post#121 » by dorkestra » Mon Jul 1, 2013 12:36 pm

As a Sixers fan, I want to congratulate you guys on your pick. I think your PG/SG/SF will be a great foundation for you guys for at least the next ten years. Most importantly, these three guys seem to have complimentary skillsets and mindsets which is so important.
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Post#122 » by Dark Faze » Mon Jul 1, 2013 1:25 pm

dorkestra wrote:As a Sixers fan, I want to congratulate you guys on your pick. I think your PG/SG/SF will be a great foundation for you guys for at least the next ten years. Most importantly, these three guys seem to have complimentary skillsets and mindsets which is so important.


Thanks. I like the move you guys made too--as good as Jrue was you guys weren't going to be able to put pieces around him to truly compete and you wouldn't be bad enough for a difference making draft pick.

Starting out with Noel and multiple lottery picks in a terrific draft next year is going to have you guys set on a great path real fast.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#123 » by asindc » Mon Jul 1, 2013 1:34 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Welcome Otto, you whiny babies need to change your panties. Christ, we just passed on Sam frikkin Bowie 2.0


Worst case scenario: Sam Bowie
Best case scenario: Tyson Chandler

No thank you. I have a strong suspicion that five years from now everyone will be talking about Noel's offensive game like people talk about Chandler's offensive game now. I'd rather have someone who doesn't have learn how to shoot after they are draft #1 overall.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#124 » by Silvie Lysandra » Mon Jul 1, 2013 1:39 pm

I disagree. The Heat went 15-67 with Dwayne Wade having a "down" year - down year for him being 24/7/4 on 54% TS% and a PER of 22 for 50 games. Toronto got the first pick with Bosh going 22/10 and the East being weaker than it likely will be next year. I think you easily could have shipped off Thad and Hawes and been able to tank with Jrue, especially seeing he'll be compelled to shoot way more than he should.

Could Hawes have fetched a 2014 top 5 protected pick from a likely lottery team on his own though? Or even Thad? I kinda think Hawes could have but who knows.

Also Noel probably never be Tyson Chandler. For one thing, he's not quite as long or as tall. He's not as great a rebounder either. And his offensive game is arguably worse than Chandler's coming out (Chandler was once considered a SF prospect lol). And what happens when he tries to bulk up past say, 220?

I think his ceiling is Marcus Camby with the Knicks before he started trying to pump his stats up. His floor is Sam Bowie.

In contrast:

Otto Porter floor: Current Tayshaun Prince
Otto Porter ceiling: Paul George
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Post#125 » by dorkestra » Mon Jul 1, 2013 6:45 pm

I think with Wall and Beal - Porter was the right pick for you guys. Considering that the Sixers needed to start from scratch, they're in a better position to take a risk on someone like Noel and even Carter-Williams. I'm somewhat surprised that the front office would support the selection of a bad-kneed big man after what happened with Bynum.

You guys are further on your way - we still have a few years to build a core. I think if Wall can stay healthy, he's going to be a perennial top ten player in the league throughout his prime.
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Post#126 » by Higga » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:33 pm

Noel just wasn't the right pick for us considering how bad we are in developing raw talent and our history with injured players.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#127 » by theboomking » Thu Jul 4, 2013 1:47 am

I didn't see this posted and wasn't sure if I missed it.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az8a0ZlTw7g[/youtube]

I love his passing. I wonder if Otto might start off the season headlining the 2nd unit, James Harden style. I can see a 2nd unit featuring Maynor, Porter and Rice being much more offensively competent than that of any recent Wizards team.
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Post#128 » by AFM » Thu Jul 4, 2013 3:33 am

He seems like a really smart player. Hope he justifies us picking him over Noel.
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Post#129 » by Knighthonor » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:46 am

Lets discuss the weakness of him and the things he need to work on. And if those weakness are more easily hidden or exposed in the Wizard's current system
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Post#130 » by dangermouse » Thu Jul 4, 2013 6:15 am

Does anyone else see a little bit of Reggie Miller in his offense? Obviously not the 3pt shooting level that Reg was on, but in other ways like how he moves around the floor off screens etc. Plays below the rim, not a great athlete, but still finds a way to get it done with his BBIQ?

His extendo-arms blocking shots is all Tayshaun Prince. But when i look at him on O I see a bit of Reggie coupled with like, Ginobili's playmaking.
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Post#131 » by dangermouse » Thu Jul 4, 2013 6:24 am

Knighthonor wrote:Lets discuss the weakness of him and the things he need to work on. And if those weakness are more easily hidden or exposed in the Wizard's current system


His weight and level of athleticism.

Not worried about the athleticism because hes got the brains. But he needs to add some mass and strength if he is going to guard some of the bully SF scorers in the league. Not too much that it slows his game down, because hes gonna be running with the Wiz speedsters, but just enough that he doesnt get killed in the post.

With NBA weight regimes he will add strength no problem, so its no sweat really, nothing to be concerned about. His frame is fine, he has a body type that will add muscle mass. He's not gonna be LeBron or Kawai big, but won't be Durant thin. Somewhere in between.
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Post#132 » by Knighthonor » Thu Jul 4, 2013 6:26 am

dangermouse wrote:Does anyone else see a little bit of Reggie Miller in his offense? Obviously not the 3pt shooting level that Reg was on, but in other ways like how he moves around the floor off screens etc. Plays below the rim, not a great athlete, but still finds a way to get it done with his BBIQ?

His extendo-arms blocking shots is all Tayshaun Prince. But when i look at him on O I see a bit of Reggie coupled with like, Ginobili's playmaking.

little bit. I agree.
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Post#133 » by J-Ves » Thu Jul 4, 2013 4:58 pm

I'm so happy Porter is on this team, what a great fit for everyone involved. With Wall as the playmaker, Porter is going to kill it form deep once he gets adjusted to the nba three. And the Wizards pick up another high bbiq/high character guy to continue the looker room transition from immature/toxic to uber professional.

As far as his weaknesses are concerned, I wonder if he will have trouble defending speedy SFs. He has the length required to bother shooters but does he have the foot speed to stay in front of quicker guys? I think in time, once he puts on weight, he'll defend the large, slow SFs and play more traditional offense at the SF position, and will defend smallish/skilled PFs and be more of a stretch 4 on offense. The latter will be more ideal, as it will allow for Wall/Beal/Webter/Porter lineups. In that case, the Wizards will be able to really punish teams from 3, if the opponent decides to over defend Wall.
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Post#134 » by BruceO » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:20 pm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLkZFyGCAAAT_Js.jpg

Georgetown. Jeff green played power forward and he's doing some small forward as well. I looked at their measurements. It's interesting Otto Porter looks bigger in this picture.

They went to support Hibbert at the eastern conference finals game. Good thing to say is Georgetown players stick together. None of them like porter is particularly athletic. If I'm not mistaken he got drafted the highest out of them, he doesn't need to relocate, he's not a tweener. If I'm also not mistaken none of them won player of the year so I think he should hit the ground running and expectation should be high on what he can become.

I'm Encouraged by what his coach said about his well rounded ability but moreso by what boheim said about him being among the best he's seen. John Thompson compares him to Paul George and acknowledges having heard the Kawhi comparisons as well . He's been drafted higher than both so if he lives up to his expectation we should have a really good player.

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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#135 » by AFM » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:32 am

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Nice pic. Looks like a younger darker Martell Webster in the middle.
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Post#136 » by montestewart » Sun Jul 7, 2013 3:11 am

AFM wrote:Image
Nice pic. Looks like a younger darker Martell Webster in the middle.

And a shorter Antawn Jamison with his back to the camera. Trying to sneak in using a disguise?
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Post#137 » by stevemcqueen1 » Sun Jul 7, 2013 6:34 am

BruceO wrote:If I'm not mistaken he got drafted the highest out of them, he doesn't need to relocate, he's not a tweener.


Porter is the highest GTown pick since AI. He's the best individual GTown player since AI. They've had a good run of front court players. Not quite the string of high picks and future All NBAers they had in Ewing, Zo, Mutumbo, and AI. But a very good run nonetheless. Interesting that none of these guys busted. Green was a bit of a disappointment for a 5th overall pick, but most of the lotto picks after the top four were brutal that year. Durant, Horford, Conley, Noah, and Thaddeus Young are the only 2007 lotto picks still with the team they played for as a rookie. Green actually looks like he really did deserve to go 5th or 6th.

In general, if it's a year where a GTown guy is a high pick, that player is usually a good bet.

A lot of people said Porter was the best player in this class. It was a weak class, but that hasn't been said about a Georgetown guy in a while.

I think Porter is going to surprise a lot of people with how good he gets. I also think he ends up playing a lot of PF for us down the road, which puts his value in a new light.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#138 » by DCsOwn » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:43 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
BruceO wrote:If I'm not mistaken he got drafted the highest out of them, he doesn't need to relocate, he's not a tweener.


Porter is the highest GTown pick since AI. He's the best individual GTown player since AI. They've had a good run of front court players. Not quite the string of high picks and future All NBAers they had in Ewing, Zo, Mutumbo, and AI. But a very good run nonetheless. Interesting that none of these guys busted. Green was a bit of a disappointment for a 5th overall pick, but most of the lotto picks after the top four were brutal that year. Durant, Horford, Conley, Noah, and Thaddeus Young are the only 2007 lotto picks still with the team they played for as a rookie. Green actually looks like he really did deserve to go 5th or 6th.

In general, if it's a year where a GTown guy is a high pick, that player is usually a good bet.

A lot of people said Porter was the best player in this class. It was a weak class, but that hasn't been said about a Georgetown guy in a while.

I think Porter is going to surprise a lot of people with how good he gets. I also think he ends up playing a lot of PF for us down the road, which puts his value in a new light.


Your second-to-last statement is spot-on. Porter is really going to surprise a lot of people that think that his upside is limited. He's a lot more skilled than people give him credit for, both as a shooter and a passer (his mid-range game is brilliant), he has ideal height and length for the position AND he has a super high IQ with a tremendous work ethic. Think about that for a second. He's 6'9 (might not even be finished growing) with a 7'2 wingspan, he already shoots the ball well and has time to improve that aspect of his game even further, he's a fantastic teammate that plays a very cerebral game and plays hard at all times, he's an NBA caliber athlete with a 36 inch vertical at his height and length and he works to improve. I have no doubt that in a few seasons we'll view Porter as an invaluable component of our team and Im absolutely certain that he'll be a fan favorite by that time as well. Even if he tops out as Tayshaun Prince, he'll be Tayshaun Prince with better shooting ability, which is very nearly a star.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#139 » by deneem4 » Sun Jul 7, 2013 1:13 pm

I might b joining the porter bandwagon even though I still want illyasova...I want to see if he going to be able to guard glen rice and score on him with ease....
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Post#140 » by fishercob » Sun Jul 7, 2013 1:30 pm

deneem4 wrote:I might b joining the porter bandwagon even though I still want illyasova...I want to see if he going to be able to guard glen rice and score on him with ease....


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