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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Why did the Knicks lose to the Pacers?
StephNYKurry wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:StephNYKurry wrote:I wish some of you would go back and watch some of the Indiana games so that you could intelligently analyze it, instead of relying on your faulty memory that simply thinks the Pacers dominated us in every phase of the game.
Here's what the Pacers did........
Won every home game they had.
Took HCA away from NY, and closed out the series in their building.
Massacred them on the boards.
Got pretty much every shot they wanted.
Played better defense.
These really are the only FACTS that matter.
The Knicks shot 35% in two consecutive games on the road.
THEY WEREN'T WINNING EITHER OF THOSE GAMES.
Not a chance in hell.
And it wasn't because the Pacers defense was stymieing them. They simply missed a ton of open freaking shots.
JustaKnickFan wrote:Anyway, it's true I'm upset about this deal. I wanted the Knicks to get defense-and-rebounding-oriented bigs with a tough mentality and get younger/collect assets.
Instead, I see them give away 3 picks for a player who is the exact opposite of this, and a player WHO THE RAPTORS WERE PRACTICALLY GIVING AWAY.
I'm sorry but, HE WAS ABOUT TO BE AMNESTIED, YET THE KNICKS TRADED 3 PICKS FOR HIM. Yeah I used caps, but i feel like people aren't realizing how unnecessary the picks were in this deal.
kneega wrote:JustaKnickFan wrote:Anyway, it's true I'm upset about this deal. I wanted the Knicks to get defense-and-rebounding-oriented bigs with a tough mentality and get younger/collect assets.
Instead, I see them give away 3 picks for a player who is the exact opposite of this, and a player WHO THE RAPTORS WERE PRACTICALLY GIVING AWAY.
I'm sorry but, HE WAS ABOUT TO BE AMNESTIED, YET THE KNICKS TRADED 3 PICKS FOR HIM. Yeah I used caps, but i feel like people aren't realizing how unnecessary the picks were in this deal.
If you going to hold a position at least BE ACCURATE!
Was the deal Bargs for 3 picks???
Thugger HBC wrote:kneega wrote:JustaKnickFan wrote:Anyway, it's true I'm upset about this deal. I wanted the Knicks to get defense-and-rebounding-oriented bigs with a tough mentality and get younger/collect assets.
Instead, I see them give away 3 picks for a player who is the exact opposite of this, and a player WHO THE RAPTORS WERE PRACTICALLY GIVING AWAY.
I'm sorry but, HE WAS ABOUT TO BE AMNESTIED, YET THE KNICKS TRADED 3 PICKS FOR HIM. Yeah I used caps, but i feel like people aren't realizing how unnecessary the picks were in this deal.
If you going to hold a position at least BE ACCURATE!
Was the deal Bargs for 3 picks???
Yes.
kneega wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:kneega wrote:
If you going to hold a position at least BE ACCURATE!
Was the deal Bargs for 3 picks???
Yes.
a come on thug...stop playing I'm serious...
god shammgod wrote:i hate when people include first round picks and 2nd round picks as the same thing though.
Thugger HBC wrote:StephNYKurry wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Here's what the Pacers did........
Won every home game they had.
Took HCA away from NY, and closed out the series in their building.
Massacred them on the boards.
Got pretty much every shot they wanted.
Played better defense.
These really are the only FACTS that matter.
The Knicks shot 35% in two consecutive games on the road.
THEY WEREN'T WINNING EITHER OF THOSE GAMES.
Not a chance in hell.
And it wasn't because the Pacers defense was stymieing them. They simply missed a ton of open freaking shots.
Right......
Wonder why the Knicks couldn't score.
it certainly had NOTHING to do with the other team on the floor, that would be giving too much credit.
Thugger HBC wrote:god shammgod wrote:i hate when people include first round picks and 2nd round picks as the same thing though.
They are only different by contract guarantees, other than that there really is no difference.
Thugger HBC wrote:kneega wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Yes.
a come on thug...stop playing I'm serious...
You asked a question, and the answer is yes.
kneega wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:That type of logic is where i hope the team does not share.
Playoff basketball has no boundaries on roles, all opn the court are to be expected to do the things needed for the win.
prime example Roy Hibbert being a focal point of indy's offense in the playoffs when he wasnt in the regular season.
To think Bargnani will only be required to just score efficiently, which i doubt he can even do that, is putting the team in a disadvantage.
It;'s the same thing people said of Melo, he was only brought here to score....no.....he was brought here to win games by any means he's capable of, at which scoring is not the only thing he is capable of.
Thug, it's not like Bargs CAN'T rebound. I saw several hgh rebounding games(above his average) in the first month of last season. People are acting like he runs when he sees a rebound.
god shammgod wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:god shammgod wrote:i hate when people include first round picks and 2nd round picks as the same thing though.
They are only different by contract guarantees, other than that there really is no difference.
the value of a first round pick is not greater then the value of a 2nd ?
Thugger HBC wrote:kneega wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Yes.
a come on thug...stop playing I'm serious...
You asked a question, and the answer is yes.
StephNYKurry wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Why did the Knicks lose to the Pacers?
Because we shot the basketball like absolutely crap and don't say that it had something to do with the Pacers defense either, because it really didn't.
We missed wide open jump shots that we had been knocking in all year long.
Simple as that.
StephNYKurry wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:StephNYKurry wrote:
The Knicks shot 35% in two consecutive games on the road.
THEY WEREN'T WINNING EITHER OF THOSE GAMES.
Not a chance in hell.
And it wasn't because the Pacers defense was stymieing them. They simply missed a ton of open freaking shots.
Right......
Wonder why the Knicks couldn't score.
it certainly had NOTHING to do with the other team on the floor, that would be giving too much credit.
Dude...I have all 6 Pacers/Knicks games on the very computer that I'm typing from right now. Game 4 in particular is a game that sticks out as one where the Knicks simply couldn't buy ****. They got wide open looks, moved the ball well, and the shots simply wouldn't drop.
As I've said before and have gotten completely ignored, this is a make or miss league. Once you stop making shots, YOU'RE GOING HOME.
god shammgod wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:god shammgod wrote:i hate when people include first round picks and 2nd round picks as the same thing though.
They are only different by contract guarantees, other than that there really is no difference.
the value of a first round pick is not greater then the value of a 2nd ?
shmeakone wrote:Ii can't believe this thread is still going..