Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets?

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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#101 » by junot111 » Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:31 pm

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junot111 wrote:Once again you provide no analysis or proof and only give a blank statement stating your opinion. Thank you for letting us know how you feel about Jeremy Lin now please stop trying to pass everything you say off as fact.


The burden of proof is on you.

You are claiming racism. What racism?

I claimed racism towards him throughout his basketball career which is well documented. If you can't be bothered to look it up and would rather stay ignorant then please stop claiming your opinions as facts. Thanks
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#102 » by LarsV8 » Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:35 pm

bull.

Any legit criticism of Lin is being completely dismissed by you as hatred and racism and it is completely baseless.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#103 » by Durant Durant » Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:37 pm

funny how his contemporary Rubio gets treated better in these parts... lmaoooo
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#104 » by dancetoexpress » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:00 pm

AmazingJason wrote:Lin is always going to be controversial because he is Asian. He has tons of positive attention from fellow Asians - who love basketball - and people who love his story - which is a great one. On the other side, he has haters because of that attention and the fact that Asians in general still have lower social status in the US.

The truth is that as a player, he is somewhere in the middle. He is overpaid, but most NBA players are anyway, whether you are a star or role player. I personally think he is fine where is now. He is going to be a 4th or 5th option and a secondary ball-handler. He has always been a good defender, and now he can focus more of his energy into that instead of "Linsanity". He shot well from 3PT territory the 2nd half of last season and he is no doubt working on that. If he can shot 38%+ from 3PT, attack when his teammates create openings for him, and play good defense from the PG position, he'll be a plus.


I feel that this sums up the thread for me. The race thing will always be an issue and will be the cause of his hype, whether it is being overhyped or completely dismissed. As an Asian, I thought from the beginning that Linsanity was stupid as hell. Idiots were coming out and saying that he was better than Yao, better than Kobe, and a bunch of other baseless nonsense. I think he definitely has talent and anyone expecting him to perform at the "Linsanity" level needs to get tested for mental illnesses. He went from a nobody to being heavily guarded, and now that most of the ridiculous hype has died down, he can actually focus on developing as a player. I think he's a good role player and I can see him being a good 4th or 5th option (as you stated). The Lin hate is too much, though I do understand where it might be coming from (due to the "Linsanity" nonsense).
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#105 » by nuposse04 » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:13 pm

I think he's an average regular season PG on a good team...what I wonder...and we'll see, is how well he deals with teams that gameplan against him and attempt to shut him off in playoff level intensity. I remember the Heat a couple years ago absolutely destroyed him when he was on the knicks. He looked like he didn't belong in the NBA. Same with these past playoffs.

I'm not convinced Lin has an extra gear to be efficient in playoff level competition. He's also going to be 25 soon, his developmental years are coming to an end in a season or two, what you see is what you get with him I imagine in about 2 seasons.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#106 » by Mamba Venom » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:16 pm

Lin is solid. That run he had with the Knicks was incredible. But a big part of why American born Lin is there for marketing reasons.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#107 » by diablerouge » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:29 pm

i think the most obvious reason is that he is barely a point guard. seems silly to say since he is an harvard econ grad but lin's basketball iq is very low. he only knows how to play fast and his best moments in the nba was when he could just run wild and go to the hoop without thinking too much about setting up plays.

that's about the last thing the rockets need with harden and howard running pick n rolls on the strong side and parsons cutting to the hoop.

the rockets need a game manager who can knock down 3s at a very high clip and can play D on the top point guards. so, not jeremy lin.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#108 » by wilt » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:33 pm

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the rockets need a game manager who can knock down 3s at a very high clip and can play D on the top point guards. so, not jeremy lin.



actually Lin improved quite a bit in all those areas as the season went on (his first full time season with Playing Time in the NBA btw)
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#109 » by Ronito » Mon Jul 8, 2013 9:14 pm

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Ronito wrote:The Rockets signing Dwight has nothing to do with it, actually. He's really not even a good player to begin with. Hell he isn't even the best point guard on his own team.

and posts like this is the reason why I bring up the blind ignorance that these haters have towards Lin. They know nothing about him or his team and yet say things like this. He's not even the best point guard on his own team? :lol:

Patrick Beverley is better. Go back and watch the playoffs. Defense matters.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#110 » by bballfanatic81 » Mon Jul 8, 2013 9:51 pm

Ronito wrote:Patrick Beverley is better. Go back and watch the playoffs. Defense matters.


getting lit up by reggie jackson counts as defense? or knocking out westbrook's knee?
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#111 » by hayden » Mon Jul 8, 2013 10:03 pm

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Ronito wrote:The Rockets signing Dwight has nothing to do with it, actually. He's really not even a good player to begin with. Hell he isn't even the best point guard on his own team.

and posts like this is the reason why I bring up the blind ignorance that these haters have towards Lin. They know nothing about him or his team and yet say things like this. He's not even the best point guard on his own team? :lol:

Patrick Beverley is better. Go back and watch the playoffs. Defense matters.


LOL at using that one playoff series to compare two players (with whom one was injured), when there is a much larger sample size available (the regular season).

I guess you're still salty over Lin going off all on your boy, Deron's face, which sparked Linsanity? Yeah, I would be, too.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#112 » by Johnny Firpo » Mon Jul 8, 2013 10:05 pm

Major Tom wrote:funny how his contemporary Rubio gets treated better in these parts... lmaoooo


Rubio is a better, more impactful player (when totally healthy), and i think almost 3 years younger than Lin. Also, he gets criticized here a lot too. Anyway, i don't have a problem with Rocket fans or non-Rocket fans that would like another starting PG. Lin is not only has questionable impact, he's really not a very good fit next to Harden and Howard.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#113 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon Jul 8, 2013 10:05 pm

he looked his best running a 2 man game with Chandler, I expect more of the same with Dwight
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#114 » by Ice Trae » Mon Jul 8, 2013 10:16 pm

Major Tom wrote:funny how his contemporary Rubio gets treated better in these parts... lmaoooo

yeah it's really annoying. When Lin has a bad game he gets bashed like hell.. Rubio who IMO isn't any better than Lin seems to always get praised regardless of how bad he is performing
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#115 » by Fobbie » Mon Jul 8, 2013 10:40 pm

Lin is a solid player, but the Rockets need someone that can consistently hit the open 3s. Plus his contract in the 3rd year is going to be hard to trade.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#116 » by Ronito » Tue Jul 9, 2013 5:10 am

hayden wrote:I guess you're still salty over Lin going off all on your boy, Deron's face, which sparked Linsanity? Yeah, I would be, too.

He also killed it. Why would I still be salty with him being a mediocre player?
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#117 » by Don Draper » Tue Jul 9, 2013 5:36 am

Fobbie wrote:Lin is a solid player, but the Rockets need someone that can consistently hit the open 3s. Plus his contract in the 3rd year is going to be hard to trade.


No its not. It's roughly an $8M cap hit (not $15M).
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#118 » by orange_juice32 » Tue Jul 9, 2013 8:31 am

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hayden wrote:I guess you're still salty over Lin going off all on your boy, Deron's face, which sparked Linsanity? Yeah, I would be, too.

He also killed it. Why would I still be salty with him being a mediocre player?


I dunno why, that's a good question though. You should ask yourself that.

Sitting there telling us defense matters when everyone in the world saw Reggie Jackson take a fat dump all over Beverley.

If defense is playing reckless and not being in control of your own body to the point where you take out someone's knee, yeah, Beverley's a sick defender. Not to mention every other aspect of the game, as average as Lin is, is Beverley's superior.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#119 » by kingkirk » Tue Jul 9, 2013 9:08 am

Vader wrote:It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.


No its not.

Lin doesn't have a role on this team with Harden dominating the ball.

McHale made him a spot up shooter last season when that's clearly not his game. When Linsanity happened, it was dominating the ball and making the plays.

He doesn't have a role and isn't worth 8 million on this current Rockets team.

They're better off going for a dead eye shooter at the point spot.
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Re: Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets? 

Post#120 » by orange_juice32 » Tue Jul 9, 2013 12:33 pm

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Vader wrote:It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.



Lin doesn't have a role on this team with Harden dominating the ball.



The NBA is not a video game, please stop saying stuff like this. James Harden cannot dominate the ball for the whole game or his efficiency will suffer horribly, especially with his style of play. We witnessed that just this season. Every team has a need for a secondary ball handler/playmaker. Whether or not that should be Lin is the question, but that is his role as of now. He has been neither bad nor good at it, merely inconsistent in filling that job description.

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