WT- Nate unlikely to be back (WAIT! + instagram pic pg 81!)

[KissedByaRose1]

‏@JaredZwerling

Source: Toney Douglas has accepted an offer from the Golden State Warriors.
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Another suitor out of the mix. Golden State is who I feared most.

Helllll yes.

Come back home Nate. Give Rose the best offensive player he's had since Thibs got here.

[Ben]

I still want to read that Utah will go with JLIII ...

[caribbean_cool]

Toney Douglas going to Golden State so scratch them from the list.

[caribbean_cool]

Oops, sorry, already reported, but still. I think the only competition for the Bulls to get Nate are the Lakers, since they are the only good team that have some money, but I haven't read anything about them going after Nate.

[HomoSapien]

Anyone tracking what teams still have more money to offer than us?

[Jvaughn]

‏@JaredZwerling

Source: Toney Douglas has accepted an offer from the Golden State Warriors.
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Another suitor out of the mix. Golden State is who I feared most.

Is that for the minimum? B/c they already used their MMLE on Speights...

It better be. Douglas is barely worth the minimum.

[Good Hope]

If we I only offer nate the bare minimum and won't offer the 20% raise, that will be disgraceful IMO.

Completely agree.

i think we have already offered the 20% raise. no reason not to. it's peanuts

Well, it's however many peanuts, DOUBLED!

[pylb]

Oops, sorry, already reported, but still. I think the only competition for the Bulls to get Nate are the Lakers, since they are the only good team that have some money, but I haven't read anything about them going after Nate.

Do they actually have any money ? I thought they were still over the cap even after the MWP amnesty.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

‏@JaredZwerling

Source: Toney Douglas has accepted an offer from the Golden State Warriors.
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Another suitor out of the mix. Golden State is who I feared most.

Is that for the minimum? B/c they already used their MMLE on Speights...

Not sure. I just checked with a Warrior blogger friend of mine. He said Golden State may still have the full MLE and/or bi-annual exceptions to use, depending on the yet-to-be-determined terms of the Iggy S&T. He's pretty sure Douglas is a vet min signing, though.

[Ben]

Another suitor out of the mix. Golden State is who I feared most.

Is that for the minimum? B/c they already used their MMLE on Speights...

Not sure. I just checked with a Warrior blogger friend of mine. He said Golden State may still have the full MLE and/or bi-annual exceptions to use, depending on the yet-to-be-determined terms of the Iggy S&T. He's pretty sure Douglas is a vet min signing, though.

Hmm. I thought that GSW would just get trade exceptions for the Iggy S&T, not preserve MLE and other exceptions. But I don't know very much.

EDIT: here's some info from the GSW board:

I think we may have a coupple of TPEs (Rush 3.2M and Jack's 6.1) in addition to being able to use the MLE if we wanted, Who would you like us to bring in for that job?

And that's from this morning. So it looks as if they could offer Nate much more than we could, if they so chose. Wonder whether they're going to stand pat with Douglas?

[BahamaBull]

Nate makes too much sense...

- reliable 3 point shooter
- shot creator
- instant offense from the bench
- Great teammate and locker room influence
- loves playing for the Bulls
- Fans love him

Too bad his D sucks but for that price...We must be really dumb to not bring him back...

[RastaBull]

‏@JaredZwerling

Source: Toney Douglas has accepted an offer from the Golden State Warriors.
Details

Another suitor out of the mix. Golden State is who I feared most.

Who are the other viable suitors left?

Really not sure any legit contenders out there are looking for what he offers (or have cap space/exceptions left).

One team I'm worried about would be the Jazz. They need some veterans and have 20 mil they HAVE to spend (team salary minimum is around 49 mil and they only have 28 mil right now). They could easily offer 2-3 million for Nate to back up Burke.

Philly maybe? Again, they have the cap space to give him at least 2-3 million...Carter-Williams could use a veteran back-up.

Toronto still has a MMLE right? Not sure a team with high salary and not ready to compete for the playoffs would spend that on Nate though.

Dallas? They need something exciting...they need something off the bench even with the Calderon signing. Have the cap space for 2-3 million, but can't imagine them doing anything more than a year (waiting for FA again in 2014).

Would Orlando use some of their MLE on him? Again, already a high salary with not much too compete for (they picked up E'Twaun again anyways on the cheap).

I think teams I'm gonna be watching out for are Philly and Utah. Both probably are seeking to be high lotto teams, but both need to spend to get to the minimum team salary. Nate will bring excitement to hold some fans in the stands, but won't make so much of an impact to lift them high from the bottom of the league. Both have very little money invested in PG (rookies) so they may be willing to even grant Nate a multi-year deal at 2-3 mil (it would allow them to assess other needs in the draft and with cap space they'll have in 2014).

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

And that's from this morning. So it looks as if they could offer Nate much more than we could, if they so chose. Wonder whether they're going to stand pat with Douglas?

I'm guessing they will. The early buzz is that Iggy will play some backup point guard minutes. And they still need more depth in the frontcourt. Could be wrong, though.

[RastaBull]

Oops, sorry, already reported, but still. I think the only competition for the Bulls to get Nate are the Lakers, since they are the only good team that have some money, but I haven't read anything about them going after Nate.

Do they actually have any money ? I thought they were still over the cap even after the MWP amnesty.

THey'd have the MMLE right? But I can't imagine them giving Nate a multi-year deal (they're looking at all that cap space in 2014)...PLUS, they have Black and Nash this year so I don't think PG is what they'll use the MMLE on.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Too bad his D sucks but for that price...We must be really dumb to not bring him back...

It's official that we do want him back. Now its just a matter of Nate taking what we offered. So the ball is in his court

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

‏@JaredZwerling

Source: Toney Douglas has accepted an offer from the Golden State Warriors.
Details

Another suitor out of the mix. Golden State is who I feared most.

Who are the other viable suitors left?

Really not sure any legit contenders out there are looking for what he offers (or have cap space/exceptions left).

One team I'm worried about would be the Jazz. They need some veterans and have 20 mil they HAVE to spend (team salary minimum is around 49 mil and they only have 28 mil right now). They could easily offer 2-3 million for Nate to back up Burke.

Philly maybe? Again, they have the cap space to give him at least 2-3 million...Carter-Williams could use a veteran back-up.

Toronto still has a MMLE right? Not sure a team with high salary and not ready to compete for the playoffs would spend that on Nate though.

Dallas? They need something exciting...they need something off the bench even with the Calderon signing. Have the cap space for 2-3 million, but can't imagine them doing anything more than a year (waiting for FA again in 2014).

Would Orlando use some of their MLE on him? Again, already a high salary with not much too compete for (they picked up E'Twaun again anyways on the cheap).

I think teams I'm gonna be watching out for are Philly and Utah. Both probably are seeking to be high lotto teams, but both need to spend to get to the minimum team salary. Nate will bring excitement to hold some fans in the stands, but won't make so much of an impact to lift them high from the bottom of the league. Both have very little money invested in PG (rookies) so they may be willing to even grant Nate a multi-year deal at 2-3 mil (it would allow them to assess other needs in the draft and with cap space they'll have in 2014).

Good list. The teams that scare me most of the ones you mentioned are Toronto (if they do indeed have their MMLE) and Utah.

Dallas already gave Devon Harris $9 mil/3 years, so I don't think they'd offer Nate more than the minimum if anything at all.

And I don't know why rebuilding teams like Philly or Orlando would offer Nate a multi-year contract. Especially ORL, who already has Jameer and plans on giving Oladipo a lot of minutes at the point.

Toronto is genuinely interested in making the playoffs, and Utah could use a competent PG as an insurance policy for Burke.

All that said, I just know some team is going to come out of nowhere and crush our dreams. Nate isn't a minimum guy. It just takes on GM to see that.

[BahamaBull]

Too bad his D sucks but for that price...We must be really dumb to not bring him back...

It's official that we do want him back. Now its just a matter of Nate taking what we offered. So the ball is in his court

You mean official by Alex Kennedy?

[League Circles]

keeping nate and adding a good big like brand or whoever might make this the best Bulls team of all time IMO.

[Jvaughn]

Is that for the minimum? B/c they already used their MMLE on Speights...

Not sure. I just checked with a Warrior blogger friend of mine. He said Golden State may still have the full MLE and/or bi-annual exceptions to use, depending on the yet-to-be-determined terms of the Iggy S&T. He's pretty sure Douglas is a vet min signing, though.

Hmm. I thought that GSW would just get trade exceptions for the Iggy S&T, not preserve MLE and other exceptions. But I don't know very much.

EDIT: here's some info from the GSW board:

I think we may have a coupple of TPEs (Rush 3.2M and Jack's 6.1) in addition to being able to use the MLE if we wanted, Who would you like us to bring in for that job?

And that's from this morning. So it looks as if they could offer Nate much more than we could, if they so chose. Wonder whether they're going to stand pat with Douglas?

Well the MLE is the most likely target if they want Nate, since we'd have to agree on a S&T if they wanted to use their TPE, and Nate would still be restricted to the vet min + 20% scale if that was the case.

[BahamaBull]

keeping nate and adding a good big like brand or whoever might make this the best Bulls team of all time IMO.