???Bynum???

myrak433 · Post #1 » by **myrak433** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 12:17 am

It appears the Hawks are serious about Bynum.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/hawks-re ... num/nYhgs/

I hope he is Healthy enough to play at least %85 of the season.............. hell I would be happy with %50.

but I Healthy Bynum and one of Ellis or Jennings would be nasty though.

Post #2 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 2:48 am

myrak433 wrote:It appears the Hawks are serious about Bynum.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/hawks-re ... num/nYhgs/

I hope he is Healthy enough to play at least %85 of the season.............. hell I would be happy with %50.

Be careful.

Missing half the season as he primary scorer, rebounder, big man would be catastrophic.

theatlfan · Post #3 » by **theatlfan** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 3:05 am

Catastrophic is more than a little hyperbole. We would just roll out Horford and Millsap for 36 each and let Muscala / Scott / (Nogueira?) / vet mini guy battle it out for the other 24... basically what the front court plan would have been every night if we decided to go forward with the Ellis signing. Not saying it's a great plan, especially when I doubt that we'd be playing Bynum in back-to-backs, but I'd reserve catastrophe for much worse situations... like we would have been in if we signed Ellis outright.

davefmcl · Post #4 » by **davefmcl** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 3:23 am

A money being equal Atlanta would have the advantage over Dallas and Cleveland for signing Bynum. The Hawks, Mavs and Cavaliers basketball programs are irrelevant. It's a about where to party while he is "injured".

I think the fact that he Lakers could have tried to resign him and gotten back what they traded away for Dwight Howard and they have her to make any such effort is VERY telling.

theatlfan · Post #5 » by **theatlfan** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 3:42 am

davefmcl wrote:A money being equal Atlanta would have the advantage over Dallas and Cleveland for signing Bynum. The Hawks, Mavs and Cavaliers basketball programs are irrelevant. It's a about where to party while he is "injured".

I think the fact that he Lakers could have tried to resign him and gotten back what they traded away for Dwight Howard and they have her to make any such effort is VERY telling.

Huh? Even without Howard and the expected amnesty of MWP, LAL sits in the LT right now. All they'd have is the tax-MLE to throw at Bynum whose has a concrete offer of ~$12M for this year. They couldn't even try to SNT for him without PHI taking on significant $$, which LAL simply doesn't have the assets to convince PHI to do. No, LAL is just seeing the reality that any pursuit of Bynum would have been and would be a complete waste of time.

Post #6 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 4:57 am

davefmcl wrote:A money being equal Atlanta would have the advantage over Dallas and Cleveland for signing Bynum. The Hawks, Mavs and Cavaliers basketball programs are irrelevant. It's a about where to party while he is "injured".

Is Dallas irrelevant? Two Western Conference Titles in the last ten years. An NBA title. A Hall of Famer on the roster.
The best owner in all of sports. A Championship winning Head Coach.

Their squad is the only team to ever sweep Phil Jackson out of the playoffs.

I know they are in rebuilding mode. But they are from irrelevant when half of their roster won a title this decade...

parson · Post #7 » by **parson** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 4:36 pm

One sobering thought about Bynum: regardless of how any of us feel about tanking, if we sign him and he is damaged too severely to play, we might end up in the lottery, anyway.

PandaKidd · Post #8 » by **PandaKidd** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 4:56 pm

If we sign bynum, def tanking

#inforthetank
#Tcorbin

theatlfan · Post #9 » by **theatlfan** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 7:55 pm

parson wrote:One sobering thought about Bynum: regardless of how any of us feel about tanking, if we sign him and he is damaged too severely to play, we might end up in the lottery, anyway.

Isn't that part of the value of signing him? The risk is that we lose some $$ and cap, but end with a high pick in the next 2 drafts which both are looking pretty strong at the top. The reward is that we get a true C with All-NBA potential.

niffoc4 · Post #10 » by **niffoc4** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 8:08 pm

theatlfan wrote:
parson wrote:One sobering thought about Bynum: regardless of how any of us feel about tanking, if we sign him and he is damaged too severely to play, we might end up in the lottery, anyway.

Isn't that part of the value of signing him? The risk is that we lose some $$ and cap, but end with a high pick in the next 2 drafts which both are looking pretty strong at the top. The reward is that we get a true C with All-NBA potential.

Honestly, even if we use most of our remaining cap space to get Bynum, as long as we have Teague to run the point and Millsap and Horford are healthy, I think we'd be in contention for the 8th seed. So to me it's more:

Worst case- treadmill (maybe late lottery)
Best case- contender

tomaHAWKslam · Post #11 » by **tomaHAWKslam** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 8:42 pm

PandaKidd wrote:If we sign bynum, def tanking

#inforthetank
#Tcorbin

I think we have a different view of what tanking is. Signing him only helps toward tanking if he can't play at all. if we get any of the point guards that've been mentioned, I really can't see us winning fewer than 35-45 games. That's not successful tanking.

tomaHAWKslam · Post #12 » by **tomaHAWKslam** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 8:43 pm

niffoc4 wrote:Worst case- treadmill (maybe late lottery)
Best case- contender

I half agree. I really don't think we can hope to be a serious contender.

PandaKidd · Post #13 » by **PandaKidd** » Tue Jul 9, 2013 8:59 pm

tomaHAWKslam wrote:
PandaKidd wrote:If we sign bynum, def tanking

#inforthetank
#Tcorbin

I think we have a different view of what tanking is. Signing him only helps toward tanking if he can't play at all. if we get any of the point guards that've been mentioned, I really can't see us winning fewer than 35-45 games. That's not successful tanking.

forum inside joke.

If we get Bynum ill be happy as long as its a very small contract with little risk. Incentives , TO on the 2nd year,.

td00 · Post #14 » by **td00** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:48 pm

Quick update: found on the CLE site someone stating a source that DF has offered a 3/27M deal for Bynum to come here. No details, just that blip and the concern whether the source was credible.

Looking for more info on this while AB is in DAL today listening to Cuban.

parson · Post #15 » by **parson** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:56 pm

Bynum's received DAL's offer and is apparently not happy with any of the 3 offers. Now, he says he's negotiating with 3 teams at the same time, ie, he's trying to bump up the offers.

From the Cleveland Plain Dealer: http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/team/1373 ... s-hes.html

Andrew Bynum's agent says he's in "ongoing discussions" with 3 teams
by Jodie Valade, The Plain Dealer
7/10/2013 4:31 PM

The agent for Andrew Bynum said he's in "ongoing discussions" with the Cavaliers, Atlanta and Dallas after his 7-foot client met with the Mavericks today. As for whether a decision is expected today? "It depends," David Lee said. "It takes two to make an agreement."

So he's going to play the waiting game, knowing we have contracts pending that we need to do something with. Wonder how much he wants and how far we all are from his asking price? Probably, he wants a guaranteed, max contract for 4 years - no team option.

parson · Post #16 » by **parson** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:08 pm

New from Peachtree Hoops : http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2013/7/10 ... ne-to-pony

Jason Walker (on Jul 10 2013, 4:58p) wrote:What's he asking for? It hasn't been reported, except that reported offer from the Cleveland Cavaliers of a 2 year, 24 million dollar deal. If that report is right, Bynum may want more money and/or dollars that that. We thought coming in that he would want a regular 4 year, 50-65M dollar deal. Is he trying for that now?

Dallas would have to make a move on Shawn Marion, the Hawks are in good position to go up a little, but is one of the teams that may move on, and then Cleveland, who made the original offer.

We'll see how long he cares to wait, but be sure that these teams may make a counter-move in the media, allowing other rumors of players to be going to their clubs, and see if that entices Bynum to come back to them instead.

Bolding and underlining of text is my doing.

thenbaman · Post #17 » by **thenbaman** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:16 pm

Stay away from that cancer the hawks are good people
and you guys don.t deserve that.

parson · Post #18 » by **parson** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:21 pm

It sure looks as if he wants a patsy to fund his bowling and dancing for the next 4 years. Maybe his plan is to sit out the 1st 3 years, then to grit his teeth and play the last 20-30 games of season 4 and get another max contract.

parson · Post #19 » by **parson** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:36 pm

From Marc Stein:

Marc Stein wrote:Just added to @espn_macmahon's Andrew Bynum story: Sources say Cavs' 2-year, $24M offer only guaranteed for $6M. Still Drew's highest offer

Apparently, our offer (3/27 or whatever it is) has benchmarks that make him earn his salary. Good.

Years80HAWKS · Post #20 » by **Years80HAWKS** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:26 pm

I believe Bynum would be a tremendous addition for a roster and a franchise like ours.
With Bynum, and a cheap back-up center, we could have easily the best front court in the East.

It would be great to sign Bynum, renew Teague and get Kirilienko. We still need a real SF, although Korver and Millsap can both offer minutes there.

If Teague goes to Milwaukee (to enjoy LDs knowledge of himself for more money, instead of becoming a great PG with MBH for less), then we would be signing Jennings, but I believe we would not have enough money for Kirilienko.