Miles Plumlee Expectations

[SmashMouthRod]

Its obvious that Plumlee could potentially be forced to play important role for the Pacers sooner than later. He played solid defense, and was also a solid mid range shooter at Duke. He shot 61 percent from the field as a senior.
Next season will be the second year of Miles two-year deal. What kind of expectations do you place on him?

[Jake0890]

Zero expectations from me. We've had this conversation before on here, but I still don't like the pick. I saw no reason to draft him, let alone draft him in the first round before players that are probably better like Perry Jones. I don't think he'll ever be the Jeff Foster player that everyone expects him to be, I just don't see the talent. I'm not sure where he will get minutes, either. Hibbert and Mahnimi will take all of the center minutes, while West and Pendy/Hans take up the PF minutes.

I don't see Plumlee being good, ever. I think years from now we will look back on this pick and realize that he wasn't worth the first rounder.

All that said, I hope I eat my words.

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[Scoot McGroot]

I certainly hope he can play himself into the rotation somehow.

Ideally, he would play enough and well enough to warrant moving Mahinmi's bigger deal and net us some salary flexibility.

Realistically, I just want to see something one way or the other.

[8305]

My expectation as a fan holding management accountable for their decisions is that Miles shows some Jeff Foster like qualities and can get himself on the floor next year. My fear based on comments from local media that I know is better connected than me is that he lacks the necessary feel for the game needed to make the kind of plays Foster would make.

Assuming Hansbrough isn't back next seaspn there will be some minutes available backing up David West. Plumlee gets those, Mahamni get the minutes behind Hibber. Plumlee evolves to the place where he can effectively back up both positions and Mahamni along with his salary can be moved. That's the best case I think management had in mind with this pick.

[Wizop]

I'm with 8305. I expect Tyler to move on and I hope Plumlee develops into a better second 4 and third 5 than Pendi. I expect a healthy Granger to make us a 55-60 win team that will have enough big leads to allow Miles and OJ to get minutes in the middle of each half and not just at garbage time.

[MNPacersfan]

I'm kind of expecting Tyler to move on in a sign and trade. Which would leave Pendy as the backup PF and Plumlee as the 5th big. I think he can succeed through intelligence and athleticism (despite his meticulous (read- slow) play). I'm hoping that he's staying in Indy for the summer to play one on one against Hibbert every day.

[pacers70]

I think the best we can hope for from Plumlee next season is as the 5th Big. Hopefully, as others have stated, he will improve and be able to replace Ian and we will be able to move Ian's contract either during the season or next summer.

[Wizop]

Ian's contract isn't unreasonable. he's a rim protector and I think it is good to have a backup that can be a junior version of the starter.

I'm hoping Plumlee develops more into the Foster mold of someone who can get meaningful minutes at the 4 but can also play the 5 on nights when fouls limit the regulars. he looked pretty good in the 2012 summer league and he put up numbers in Fort Wayne but that would have been at the 5. my best guess is that the coaches saw that Tyler did so much better as a starter than a reserve that they might have been afraid to dress Miles for fear it would have messed with Tyler's head even more. if Miles is truly a Jeff Foster type, he'll play so hard in the summer and in training camp that the coaches will have to find a place for him. we'll see.

[Solid]

We haven't seen any movement toward replacing Tyler and - have huge hole behind DWest, so it looks like we're going to have to hope for an "emergence" of the Plumster.

[Wizop]

we haven't signed anyone to replace Tyler but that hardly means they aren't talking to agents. we know for example that we've put an offer out for Copeland. don't assume they don't have a backup plan just because it hasn't leaked.

[Solid]

That's a good point. Most of our moves seem to come out of the blue.
I have heard the Cope noise but he's less of a PF than Granger. In fact if we are expecting DG to play (for us) it's hard to see the point in Cope at all. The apparent stockpiling of SFs doesn't bode well in fact for Dannys future with us.
Although we have long long had a fixation on mid-sized shooters.

All that being said I'll feel much better when we sign a Landry, R Evans, Brand, Tyler H...SOMEBODY who is comfortable working within six feet of the hole.

[glasket]

interesting questions. I do think Miles is more a a 4 then a 5 but I doubt he is ready to be in our rotation this year. For a team that is borderline playoffs and worse... sure but for a contender.... no.
I think he will be the last man on the bench or inactive this season as well.
Of course that is assuming we sign a decent backup 4 which right now is our glaring hole

[jowglenn]

Honestly? I expect him to be out of the league once his contract with the Pacers ends. I expect him to only have garbage time minutes. God I wish we'd taken draymond green instead.

fortunately i think we got this year's draymond green in solomon hill, so that's good.

[Gremz]

It's tough to say at this point. Obviously it seems like a rotation pick, long term of course. I wouldn't expect a Jeff Foster type just yet though. Based on what I've read recently, with Bird claiming he's a 4 and not a 5, then it's understandable why he hasn't played much at all. Being behind West, Hansbrough and Pendergraph last season, it's tough to crack the rotation.

Will depend on what our rotation will look like at the end of Free Agency. I certainly hope he battles for minutes, but without knowing his competition it's completely up in the air. He seems to have good mechanics, perhaps he's not quite up to scratch with the NBA speed, Vogel's system, his BBall IQ or perhaps it's just a bad pick.

[Wizop]

we need Plumlee to be a four but in last year's summer league he was strictly a five. it'll be interesting to see what position he plays next week.

everyone puts up Draymond Green as a low pick player that got playing time as if that was an obvious good pick with hindsight. at MSU Green was an undersized power forward with a good shot and great passing ability. he totally remade his body between college and the time he played at BLF last year. now he is a lean small forward who might even turn out to be a shooting guard. I don't see how anyone could have predicted that this time last year. in any event, that will not be Hill's pattern as he created an NBA body in college.

now if the comparison is that they both stayed in college when younger players are more in fashion, well never mind. Pritchard said something about that in his post draft press conference that made sense to me. I've heard draft wags say it is better to get a 19 year old because he'll be only 23 and in his prime when you have to give him a bump. we say what we look for is year to year improvement in college expecting to get a player that is already four years better than when he was 19. Hill's interviews are very impressive.

[Gremz]

Changed my mind. He will be GOAT.

[Miller4ever]

That Plum Kool-aid.

[Wizop]

Vogel said he has an open mind about Miles and Ian playing the 4. that seems to mean he sees them as 5's.

[8305]

Vogel said he has an open mind about Miles and Ian playing the 4. that seems to mean he sees them as 5's.

I agree. Miles is probably closer to being 4 since he can catch the ball and deliver a basic pass (things that really challenge Ian). Assuming West and Granger are healthy there will be little need for either Plumlee or Mahamni to play the 4 anyway.