Rhymes with Nintendo - The Gerald Henderson Thread

Kembastockton · Post #861 » by **Kembastockton** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:32 pm

I have been saying all along if he can accept a sixth man role I would love to keep him, but if he sees himself as a career starter he needs to go.

JMAC3 · Post #862 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:46 pm

Lets trade Hendo to Detroit for Brandon Knight. Then we can use Brandon Knight as our third string point guard hahahahaha

catch20two · Post #863 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:52 pm

I hope Hendo understands that if we sign him to the 1-year qualifying offer that he'll likely get limited minutes throughout this season in our logjammed backcourt and less money than the reported multi-year $5.5 million annually deal offered by Cho next offseason from another team.

Liver_Pooty · Post #864 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:48 pm

catch20two wrote:I hope Hendo understands that if we sign him to the 1-year qualifying offer that he'll likely get limited minutes throughout this season in our logjammed backcourt and less money than the reported multi-year $5.5 million annually deal offered by Cho next offseason from another team.

Did Cho offer 5.5 mill annually?

countryboi · Post #865 » by **countryboi** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:25 pm

5.5 mil is a complete slap in the face...if i was hendo i would tell cho to shove it up his ass but i am not so i think its a fair deal

catch20two · Post #866 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:27 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:I hope Hendo understands that if we sign him to the 1-year qualifying offer that he'll likely get limited minutes throughout this season in our logjammed backcourt and less money than the reported multi-year $5.5 million annually deal offered by Cho next offseason from another team.

Did Cho offer 5.5 mill annually?

I can't remember where I read it but it was recent, almost immediately after Cho spoke with his representatives, something to the tone that we're offering him between $5.5-6.5 million annually but his representatives want between $7.5-8.5 million annually and the two parties are far apart.

JDuaneWayne · Post #867 » by **JDuaneWayne** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:34 pm

countryboi wrote:5.5 mil is a complete slap in the face...if i was hendo i would tell cho to shove it up his ass but i am not so i think its a fair deal

Have you had much experience in negotiating? To me it is a fair starting point, especially if he is at 8.5-9.5 million, which to me is a slap in the face of the organization. The hope is you eventually meet in the middle.

Kaorto · Post #868 » by **Kaorto** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:44 pm

Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell

Bobcats spoke with Gerald Henderson's reps today. Positive tone. Team's first preference remains re-signing him.

countryboi · Post #869 » by **countryboi** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:53 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:
countryboi wrote:5.5 mil is a complete slap in the face...if i was hendo i would tell cho to shove it up his ass but i am not so i think its a fair deal

Have you had much experience in negotiating? To me it is a fair starting point, especially if he is at 8.5-9.5 million, which to me is a slap in the face of the organization. The hope is you eventually meet in the middle.

does haggling at the flea market count? everyone knows 7 mil is fair we need to cut the crap and pay the man.

mrknowitall215 · Post #870 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:21 pm

countryboi wrote:does haggling at the flea market count? everyone knows 7 mil is fair we need to cut the crap and pay the man.

I think $6 million is fair. $7 million is the loyalty tax. Henderson is a career 11 points per game scorer at the end of the day that hasn't lead any Charlotte team to at least a considerably middling season as a core player yet. He should be happy they aren't lowballing him even more

JDuaneWayne · Post #871 » by **JDuaneWayne** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:45 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
countryboi wrote:does haggling at the flea market count? everyone knows 7 mil is fair we need to cut the crap and pay the man.

I think $6 million is fair. $7 million is the loyalty tax. Henderson is a career 11 points per game scorer at the end of the day that hasn't lead any Charlotte team to at least a considerably middling season as a core player yet. He should be happy they aren't lowballing him even more

I agree 7 mil is closer to potentially what he might be worth, if he develops at 3 ball. 4 years in the league talk about potential is really just that, talk. If he doesn't develop that shot he's worth maybe 4 mil so we aren't low-balling him based on his body of work. Fair market price IMO.

HornetJail · Post #872 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:27 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:I hope Hendo understands that if we sign him to the 1-year qualifying offer that he'll likely get limited minutes throughout this season in our logjammed backcourt and less money than the reported multi-year $5.5 million annually deal offered by Cho next offseason from another team.

Did Cho offer 5.5 mill annually?

Where did you read that? Can't find it anywhere, though if it's a 4-year deal with max raises with a starting salary of 5.5, he'd get roughly 5.9 the next year, 6.3 the next, and 6.7 the final year, average of 6.1 a year, which is low, though it appears his market value is pretty low.

I don't blame Hendo for trying to get more money, as 5.5 is a total low-ball offer, particularly if he doesn't get max raises on top of that 5.5. If we really offered a starting salary of 5.5 and he wants at least 7.5, meeting right in the middle seems pretty fair.

$6,500,000 / $7,000,000 / $7,500,000 / $8,000,000 / $8,500,000 (Team Option) seems perfectly fair both sides.

Also there's this:
http://fansided.com/2013/07/12/nba-free-agency-charlotte-bobcats-talks-with-gerald-henderson-going-well/

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #873 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:01 pm

5.5 is *not* a lowball offer. We all like Hendo, but we also all know his shortcomings. There has been talk about how he would make a good 6th man ... well that's good 6th man money. It's slightly over a mid level exception offer ... which is pretty much his value.

Look at that second offer you list out ending in the 8 mil range. That's 8 mil in years when the team will be trying to resign Kemba, Biz, & MKG ... and with folks like Zeller or other draft picks or potential free agent starting SGs on the way. It's too much.

Post #874 » by **Diop** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:16 am

especially seeing the market has hinted at Hendo's value by no one chasing him.

I'm sure most GM's offer low amounts to RFA at first, then let them see what the market will give them before deciding whether to match.

Unfortunately for Hendo he didn't seem to get much interest.

TheKingofSting · Post #875 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:22 am

Hendo may want to fire his agent, this deal should be simple.

Snidely FC · Post #876 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:56 pm

s&t Hendo to the Clippers for Reggie Bullock

James Gatz · Post #877 » by **James Gatz** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:56 pm

Snidely FC wrote:s&t Hendo to the Clippers for Reggie Bullock

And trade Ben Gordon for James Harden!

Snidely FC · Post #878 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:50 pm

James Gatz wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:s&t Hendo to the Clippers for Reggie Bullock

And trade Ben Gordon for James Harden!

What, you don't think they would trade a rookie #25 pick for a former #12 experienced player for their Win-now team?

Yeah, I don't either. But I would call and ask.

JDuaneWayne · Post #879 » by **JDuaneWayne** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:38 pm

Snidely FC wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:s&t Hendo to the Clippers for Reggie Bullock

And trade Ben Gordon for James Harden!

What, you don't think they would trade a rookie #25 pick for a former #12 experienced player for their Win-now team?

Yeah, I don't either. But I would call and ask.

Maybe if Hendo was on a rookie contract, but if that were the case this would all be for naught

James Gatz · Post #880 » by **James Gatz** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:42 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:
James Gatz wrote:And trade Ben Gordon for James Harden!

What, you don't think they would trade a rookie #25 pick for a former #12 experienced player for their Win-now team?

Yeah, I don't either. But I would call and ask.

Maybe if Hendo was on a rookie contract, but if that were the case this would all be for naught

That was pretty much my thought.