The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

[paulpressey25]

Way to go Hammond.

I figured the opportunity to re-vote would provide some catharsis for the pitchfork crowd. Click "let him walk" again for effect.

[vegaspacker]

I understand that the QO is 4.6mil or so give or take some duckets. Can he refuse to sign that? If so, I would settle at a 1 year 7mil offer.

Next, I might go with a SF like Rudy Gay. I believe he has two more years on his contract. Somewhere in the forum... a point was made about Harris vs Hammond squad building strategies. Harris went heavy one season with 2nd rounders. Hammond turned that around. With Gay, Mayo, and Jennings... we have a young core of young top ten picks that have yet to really blow it up and warrant being stars. Yet each has shown signs of success, maybe not net positive results but --- potential.

Ers, Larrry, and Henson definitely can rebound. If Coach Drew can game plan matchup exploitations, maybe one or two of those can rack up some impressive PPG stats that may drive teams with needs to assess these YOUNG guys as potential assets. You know, something this team lacks at the moment.

Best case scenario, Drew has some innate ability to develop some of these young pieces, and a young core materializes.

Defensively, the squad takes a hit... yet some team might suffer an injury at 1-3 and desperately needs some scoring. Each of the three, are noted for the ability to get some box score action. In the words of Emril "Bam" we got some assets.

Maybe Nick VE can get into BJ3's head, and if not we improved our shooting minus MJD - with DelFino, Ridnour, and presumably Wolters.

I say let it roll, it probably won't work out... but it could be more entertaining than watching Moute, Ellis, and predator chucking up stuff. We would have improved spacing and driving ability, but assume a defensive liability... that too might be negligible.

[worthlessBucks]

If I'm a team like the Bobcats I'd try to get Jennings dirt cheap for the 'our core is weak, we suck, we need to take some chances, he's still young, and you never know' factor. I don't believe they have the space given Henderson's QO and Brandon doesn't make sense given Kemba/Sessions, but that would be my thinking if I was in their position. An acquisition like that makes more sense to me than Jefferson.

[Thunder Muscle]

PG is too important a position to lock up an average to below average player long-term. Punt on PG this season, try and find a long term solution next year. They can QO or let him walk for all I care, I just don't want them committing to him long term, for any price. $7 million a year is a good deal if he's a good player, which he isn't.

This is where I am at. Just roll with what we have and try hard next year to get the PG of the future.

[Kerb Hohl]

I feel like Jennings on the QO with motivation to get a contract somewhere else may actually be a fairly high value player. However it's going to potentially be the only season in his career he actually does that.

[RandyBreuer]

Denver working on signing Nate Robison, that surely drives his value down even more when Robinson gets 5-6 per year I am guessing.

[jtrinaldi]

if we take Jennings back on the QO he will kill any chemistry that the new regime is trying to implement. He will be trying for his next contract and only be playing for himself. He will not buy into the system because the Bucks did not buy into his long term talent. He will view it as a showcase for other teams why he should be paid a lot,and will revert to his old chucker ways. Sure,if Jennings didn't have such an Ego,I'd consider taking him back at 8.5,but I just have a feeling that anything we are trying to accomplish will be derailed by Jennings' selfish self centered ways.

[Kerb Hohl]

We are also at that same situation where the board knows his stock is low and some would sign, display value early in the year, and then trade away before it plummets again.

However, does anyone actually think we'd trade him if he was playing well and pushing us toward the 8 seed?

[Badgerlander]

two ideas

S&T Jennings to the Lakers for Nash and flip Nash to Toronto for Lowry+Ross. D'Antoni is practically fired already and Nash is a Canadian Icon, may have to throw in some of our 2nds to get Ross out of the deal.

or

sign Jennings to the QO and agree to trdae him to NY for Shumpert+filler. Shumpert is big enough to play some point forward but the hard part is the filler to get from Shumperts 1.7mil to the 4.3mil of Jennings QO

[GoldenAntlers]

I'd prefer to see a S&T, but I do think he will improve with time. He's still young (23) and I have a feeling this off-season has shown him the truth of his ways.
I expect a great year from BJ3 this season, especially if he isn't a Buck.

[mlloyd10]

two ideas

S&T Jennings to the Lakers for Nash and flip Nash to Toronto for Lowry+Ross. D'Antoni is practically fired already and Nash is a Canadian Icon, may have to throw in some of our 2nds to get Ross out of the deal.

or

sign Jennings to the QO and agree to trdae him to NY for Shumpert+filler. Shumpert is big enough to play some point forward but the hard part is the filler to get from Shumperts 1.7mil to the 4.3mil of Jennings QO

After reading the Raptors board, they don't want Nash any more. And there is no way we are getting Lowry and Ross. I could see Lowry and Fields

[driese0824]

two ideas

S&T Jennings to the Lakers for Nash and flip Nash to Toronto for Lowry+Ross. D'Antoni is practically fired already and Nash is a Canadian Icon, may have to throw in some of our 2nds to get Ross out of the deal.

or

sign Jennings to the QO and agree to trdae him to NY for Shumpert+filler. Shumpert is big enough to play some point forward but the hard part is the filler to get from Shumperts 1.7mil to the 4.3mil of Jennings QO

how botu signing Jennings to the QO and just trading him to Toronto for lowry and ross why go through the lake show.DD and Jennings are very tight and lowry is a good PG

[Buckrageous]

We are also at that same situation where the board knows his stock is low and some would sign, display value early in the year, and then trade away before it plummets again.

However, does anyone actually think we'd trade him if he was playing well and pushing us toward the 8 seed?

Absolutely not. I dont belidve they would trade anyone getting minutes if the team was in the playoff hunt.

[breakchains]

No way would the Pacers take Jennings over George Hill. Jennings is the type of player that could single-handedly change what makes that entire team tick were he to be the starting PG. George Hill is a far better player than Brandon Jennings.

Despite the amount of warranted criticism he gets around here, I still don't think the perception of Jennings' talent is in line with the reality of it. He isn't nearly as talented as he gets credit for. The guy is the double-whammy. A negative, me-first type of mentally, combined with not actually being that good of a player either.

[Chapter29]

You know, as I think about it.

Hammond probably wanted Jennings......Drew wanted Teague.........Drew won the decision......

Hammond makes Teague an offer, but doesn't over pay. He had to know that the chances of them matching was high. I said from day one it would take around 10M to prevent a match. 8M is a safe match.

Hammond is back to his boy where he may get him at a more reasonable price.

Just a thought.

Not saying I want Jennings back, but my guess is Hammond does.

[Badgerlander]

two ideas

S&T Jennings to the Lakers for Nash and flip Nash to Toronto for Lowry+Ross. D'Antoni is practically fired already and Nash is a Canadian Icon, may have to throw in some of our 2nds to get Ross out of the deal.

or

sign Jennings to the QO and agree to trdae him to NY for Shumpert+filler. Shumpert is big enough to play some point forward but the hard part is the filler to get from Shumperts 1.7mil to the 4.3mil of Jennings QO

After reading the Raptors board, they don't want Nash any more. And there is no way we are getting Lowry and Ross. I could see Lowry and Fields

I'm sure the Raptors board doesn't want him but the casual fan would line up around the block to buy season tickets. Fields sucks since elbow surgery and the salaries don't work. Like I said throw in our 2 seconds and maybe Udoh for Novak or something to get Ross. Lowry is an expiring contract and hasn't gotten along with a coach yet as a starter, he'd be a stop gap here.

[EastSideBucksFan]

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/07/1 ... -jennings/

The best thing for both sides, it says here, would be to re-up with each other for a year on that $4.3 million qualifying offer. That would allow Jennings to become unrestricted in 2014, freed from the Bucks forever if he truly wants a bigger market or bigger money (and can find someone to offer either or both). It would benefit Milwaukee, too, because they would have a highly motivated point guard, presumably eager to address some of the significant flaws in his game. Like his shot selection. Like his shaky work facilitating teammates. Like his poor percentages finishing at the rim. And like his deteriorating defensive play.

Obviously it would be risky for Jennings to forsake guaranteed money over multiple years if someone offers it. Then again, he has taken the road less traveled before, heading to Europe for a season rather than spending one year at a college campus in the U.S. prior to the 2009 Draft.

His development on the court has stalled because his maturity off it has been playing catch-up. Yet it’s unlikely Hammond and Drew want to go through the season with only newly-added Luke Ridnour, O.J. Mayo as a combo option and raw backups Ish Smith and rookie Nate Wolters at the point.

Jennings, almost as a tease but also in response to a talk last season with interim head coach Jim Boylan, produced a striking month’s work just after the All-Star break. Over 13 games, he averaged 15.5 points and 9.9 assists while shooting 44.8 percent from 3-point range (while reigning in his attempts a bit). Six of his 13 double-double games and seven of his 13 double-digit assists performances came during those 13 games, and the Bucks went 7-6.

It seemed like a salary drive, only it didn’t last. Over Milwaukee’s final 15 regular-season games, Jennings averaged 14.4 points, 5.1 assists and shot 35.9 on 3-pointers, jacking them up at a higher rate again. The Bucks closed 5-10.

Milwaukee, if it’s going to bring him back at all, needs the good Jennings, the motivated Jennings, for most or all of its 82 games, not just 13. Jennings needs to demonstrate his market value, because the gap between what he think he’s worth and what he’s being offered at the moment scarcely could be greater.

Going all in for one year would be best for both sides. Even if it’s unlikely to happen.

[bigdog34]

you would think Bone would have had secondary options already in play in the event that Ferry **** him yet again. this Better not drag out...horrible PR for himself and the Bucks. I would have had something done by today so that by Monday, the whole Teague thing was already an after thought. But alas, we have Bone as our GM. oh the misery.

[ctorres]

Offer him the QO. Bucks would still be able to re-sign him to a better deal next summer than any other team. He also would still need the Bucks to help him out with a sign and trade if he wanted to sign with any teams that need to clear space to have him.

[paulpressey25]

S&T Jennings to the Lakers for Nash and flip Nash to Toronto for Lowry+Ross. D'Antoni is practically fired already and Nash is a Canadian Icon, may have to throw in some of our 2nds to get Ross out of the deal.

The only flaw in that is that Bryan Colangelo isn't GM anymore. They've got a young smart guy in place. He knows Ross and Lowry are perhaps the two most valuable assets of the bunch.