The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

[bigdog34]

3 team trade: Bos/Mil/Det

Bucks out: Jennings, Udoh, , 2nd
Bucks In: KCP, Stucky

Detroit in: Rondo, Milw's 2nd
Detroit out: Stucky, KCP, protected 1st

Boston out: Rondo
Boston in: Jennings, Udoh, and Detroit's protected 1st

[driese0824]

has any thought been made to trading Jennings for that elusive SF instead of another PG ? Harris is still available as a FA . I think I'd rather have Ridnour starting at PG with a solid SF than have Stuckey, Ridnour and Wolters all sharing time at PG and no quality SF!

I agree if it comes down to another Fricking PG coming back here,I would rather trade jennings to the Celts for Wallace make him out starting 3 n hope he can regain some of the game he had b4 his injury riddled season last year Then sign Harris n roll with Harris n Luke as our pgs.Are both really that much worse than jennings

[Badgerlander]

Knight is 2 years younger, bigger, longer, more athletic, and he did get a 4.0 in college so maybe he is a kid with his **** together and not a moody head case. He still has the chance to break out into something more although he probably wont. If we could get him back and a pick and filler in exchange for BJ, I would be ok with it. Its certainly a much better return than Stuckey.

well we'd probably have to take Stuckey or CV back in addition to Knight to make the salaries work. I'd like to see us get Singler also to help at SF.

[BuckFan25226]

It'd be pretty hilarious to trade Jennings for a worse PG prospect.

I don't know that he's a worse "prospect" or are you referring to the "PG" aspect of it?

I guess in Knight I see a bigger, stronger and younger guy with only two years in. Look at Teague and how he took off in years 3 and 4.

I'd actually be quite happy with Jennings for Knight. Overall I think this off-season has been terrible. And this isn't a stellar move either. That said, we'd at least be "buying" low on a young, young guy with potential. Of course we should have done this first with Bledsoe, but that is another story.

Agreed.

It's sad I'm excited about Knight solely because he's 6"3 & athletic. This team hasn't had size at the point guard position since since Cassell.

[LUKE23]

Landing Knight would give us a 26 and younger core of:

Knight, Wolters
Mayo
Giannis
Ilyasova, Henson
Sanders, Udoh

Ehh, could be worse I guess. Still badly need a alpha level prospect in the backcourt.

[LedZepp007]

3 team trade: Bos/Mil/Det

Bucks out: Jennings, Udoh, , 2nd
Bucks In: KCP, Stucky

Detroit in: Rondo, Milw's 2nd
Detroit out: Stucky, KCP, protected 1st

Boston out: Rondo
Boston in: Jennings, Udoh, and Detroit's protected 1st

Sounds good. I'd rather have Knight than Stuckey. Detroit won't give up KCP, though.

[LUKE23]

Agreed.

It's sad I'm excited about Knight solely because he's 6"3 & athletic. This team hasn't had size at the point guard position since since Cassell.

See, to me, Knight is really more of a short SG.

[worthlessBucks]

Given Hammond's history (especially this offseason), I will not allow myself to believe that Knight is in the hypothetical discussion here. Woelfel cites a few different people saying it's Stuckey, so that is what I'll go with. Probably something like Stuckey, Middleton, and a second for Ayon and S&T Jennings. In any event, John Hammond should not be in charge.

Maybe this inter-division deal would 'turn John's stomach'.

[RussellandFlow]

Detroit owes their pick to the Bobcats so a 2014 pick is not possible. It's top 8 protected and I believe top 1 protected in 2015. The earliest pick you could get is a lotto protected 2016 or 2017 pick.

[ReasonablySober]

Lowe on Knight:

Knight is usually a half-second late reading the floor, which is admittedly a very tough thing for a normal human being to do in real time. Pause any pick-and-roll at the moment Knight darts around the pick, and you'll see 10 men in coordinated motion — Knight's big man rolling into space, an opposing big man rotating along the back line to stop him, and everyone else adjusting in kind. There are openings in that moment. The big man rolling might come open, and if he doesn't, that means the defense has tilted more than usual in his direction and left another of Knight's teammates open someplace else. The same patterns unfold again and again, and the best point guards learn to anticipate openings ahead of time, or even to coax the defense into surrendering a specific hole.

Knight can't do that — yet. You can see his eyes and brain working to understand how the defense is scrambling, and when you can see a point guard think like that — when he shows his work — that's bad. Sometimes Knight will spot the right pass, only he'll spot it a half-second too late, when the defense has already started to recover into position for a steal or deflection.8 Other times, he'll make the wrong read, throwing a pass too early, or uncorking a tricky thread-the-needle job when an easier dish is staring him in the face.

He also has a troubling habit of short-circuiting pick-and-rolls before they have a chance to develop, mostly by pursuing his own shot. One maddening tic: Knight loves to go around a pick in normal fashion, only to immediately cross back over toward the middle of the foul line and attack from there. Getting into the middle of the floor is generally a good thing. But doing so 18 feet from the hoop at the start of a pick-and-roll creates some problems. It puts Knight right in front of his rolling big man, mucking up the floor and taking away the most important passing lane in the pick-and-roll. And by getting middle so early, Knight allows opponents to defend the play without tilting all five guys too far toward one side — the dramatic kind of contortions that stretch a defense to its breaking point. The floor has appeared so tight in Detroit over the last two seasons in part because Knight hasn't been able to exploit the cracks that do appear.

Bottom line: Knight does not look like a point guard

Calderon moving on really screwed up their plans.

[Chuck Diesel]

Hopefully a trade with the Pistons can get us Kyle Singler in return.

[ReasonablySober]

The draft pick issue is the biggest thing here for Detroit. They're motivated to be as good as possible in '14.

[LittleRooster]

Woelfel cites a few different people saying it's Stuckey, so that is what I'll go with.

You're forgetting that whatever he says it turns out to be exactly the opposite.

[Garbs_7]

Up at 1am trying to talk myself into liking Brandon Knight who i'm not very high on.

Just for arguments sake though, we all wanted Teague who didn't show a lot before this last season and is already 25, Knight has had similar stats as Teague before his breakout year this year, and is only 21, two years removed from being #8 pick from Kentucky. Being still a very young man, is it conceivable that he can make this jump to the next level in his next few seasons?

Like I said, I've never been a massive fan of his, and never really rated him very highly, but good size at 6"3 with a 6"6 wingspan, 37 inch vert, good quickness, nice pedigree, young at 21 and has played on a pretty poor team so maybe has affected his development some. It seems a decent win / win and either he helps us win games like the FO wants by making a jump this year or he sucks and guides the tank all the way into the lotto.

Can we do a Jennings S&T / Udoh and a 2nd for Knight and Singler?

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[Bucksmaniac]

Well why the hell do we want him if even Detroit thinks he sucks?

Because we think Jennings sucks more? It's a trash for trash trade and we think our trash smells more than their's. I'd be more than happy with a deal like this though. Knight is younger so maybe he turns a corner and becomes a valuable asset. If not, you still don't have to ever see Jennings in a Bucks uniform ever again. And it would help the tank, which should be priority #1 (though I know it isn't as far as our front office is concerned).

Yeah, it's not a bad trade for sure given most of us want nothing to do with Jennings. Probably will be "meh" in the end, but worth taking a shot on Knight to get rid of Jennings, I'm assuming Knight is at least more willing to learn and has a better attitude than the other Brandon.

[crkone]

I would take Knight because (a) he is young and (b) how our new coach helped develop Teague into being better than average. If he blows, you always have Ridnour to lean on.

[mlloyd10]

So Knight/Singler or Stuckey/KCP?? Not saying these are possible, but just a thought

[mlloyd10]

3 team trade: Bos/Mil/Det

Bucks out: Jennings, Udoh, , 2nd
Bucks In: KCP, Stucky

Detroit in: Rondo, Milw's 2nd
Detroit out: Stucky, KCP, protected 1st

Boston out: Rondo
Boston in: Jennings, Udoh, and Detroit's protected 1st

I cant see BOS doing that...If they trade Rondo, they are going into tank mode more then they already are. For the team that they currently have, Jennings would help them win more games than Rondo. Rondo needs shooters and play makers or teams will just play off him and make him beat them.

[Badgerlander]

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Fin ... night-3696

Finding a Niche for: Brandon Knight by: Derek Bodner - College Basketball Scout, Sebastian Pruiti - Video Scout May 6, 2011 Brandon Knight was one of the most talented scorers and shot-creators in college basketball this season, but is also the youngest player in the draft. What do those questions mean to his fit at the next level

Well known as a very intelligent player and person both on and off the court, Knight's basketball IQ improved visibly from game to game and week to week, culminating in his very impressive SEC and NCAA Tournament performances in March.

As a scorer, there's a lot to like about Knight, and he has the versatility to fit in many offenses. He's a good, albeit sometimes streaky (largely related to at times poor shot selection), shooter with NBA three point range, who shows the ability to hit shots off catch and shoot situations, off the dribble, and coming off screens. He shows an ability to come off a baseline screen, make a tight curl, and square up and convert the attempt. He's also continuing to improve as a catch and shoot player, continuing to improve the consistency of his release on catch and shoot attempts, which he shows good form and elevation on.

there will be some growing pains Knight and the team that picks him will experience early on, but considering his youth and high basketball IQ, he could improve rapidly if allowed to learn through his mistakes.

[Bucks4Milwaukee]

It's pretty close to the saddest day as a bucks fan, even discussing a BJ to a knight or stuckey. Rather let him walk unless we take neither and 2 2nds! We need to be talking to Boston! We take Wallace and rondo... They get BJ, udoh, Avon and unlimited 2nds!