Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, Pt. 2

pspot · Post #1141 » by **pspot** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:18 pm

Wasp wrote:
pspot wrote:blow it up move that works
I just came up with
to Det: Gay, Fields, Lowry
to Mil: Derozan, Monroe, Stuckey
to Tor: Knight, CV, Udoh, Ridnour

could Raps get picks out of that? or moving cap and getting Knight is enough

That's a terrible trade for us. We get literally nothing back that has any value.

thought the cap space and being terrible was enough
maybe lottery protected 1st from Mill and conditional pick from Det if they resign Gay

Totem · Post #1142 » by **Totem** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:26 pm

pspot wrote:blow it up move that works
I just came up with
to Det: Gay, Fields, Lowry
to Mil: Derozan, Monroe, Stuckey
to Tor: Knight, CV, Udoh, Ridnour

could Raps get picks out of that? or moving cap and getting Knight is enough

How bout

Det: derozan, Jennings(s&t), trade fodder
Mil: Lowry, gay, CV
Tor: Henson, mil 2014, gooden(bad contract), singler or knight + detroit 2nd

I know it seems like we're fleecing mil, but they just traded Tobias for 2 2nd rnders

cdel00 · Post #1143 » by **cdel00** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:27 pm

Dalek wrote:
cdel00 wrote:
RapsFanInOhio wrote:Yes. I'm not sure they do that though.

Rumors have it that he is available. I'd love to see our front office snag him now. He's an old school guard with quick hands on d and length to switch on the picks. He has a knack for making the right play and can feed the ball nicely.

I have liked Calathes since his Florida days. Great back-up potential, but I am not sure of his European buyout.

Me too

. Him and Parsons very nice players

dTox · Post #1144 » by **dTox** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:02 pm

Ethan J. Skolnick @EthanJSkolnick

Just said this on @TheTicketMiami: from what I am hearing from multiple sources, the Heat are likely to amnesty Mike Miller today.

Lippo · Post #1145 » by **Lippo** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:48 pm

simple trade
Jennings S&T/Ersan
for
Gay/Lowry/2nd

BJ/Ross/DD/Ersan/Val - might be my new favorite team.
Compton Boys reunite.

Lowry/Mayo/Gay/Henson/Sanders is better than what they have now as well.
Gay's contract s scary, but he is an upgrade over Delfino.

sweetcity · Post #1146 » by **sweetcity** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:04 pm

Lippo wrote:simple trade
Jennings S&T/Ersan
for
Gay/Lowry/2nd

BJ/Ross/DD/Ersan/Val - might be my new favorite team.
Compton Boys reunite.

Lowry/Mayo/Gay/Henson/Sanders is better than what they have now as well.
Gay's contract s scary, but he is an upgrade over Delfino.

we are way better with Gay and Lowry

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #1147 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:19 pm

simple, brought up before but without Aaron Gray because i expect Camby to be bought out and Gray could be decent to keep around as a big body.

To SAC: Fields + 2014 2nd RD Pick (OKC) + 2017 2nd RD Pick (NYK)
To TOR: Hayes + Fredette

balances out both rosters nicely.

- Kleiza amnestied
- Camby + Richardson bought out.
- Chris Wright signed

Kyle Lowry / Jimmer Fredette / Dwight Buycks
Demar Derozan / Terrence Ross
Rudy Gay / Steve Novak / Chris Wright
Amir Johnson / Tyler Hansbrough / Quincy Acy
Jonas Valanciunas / Chuck Hayes / Aaron Gray

team remains below luxury tax, we get tougher with Hayes and add another good shooter in Fredette. That is a Dwayne Casey type team.

sweetcity · Post #1148 » by **sweetcity** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:58 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:simple, brought up before but without Aaron Gray because i expect Camby to be bought out and Gray could be decent to keep around as a big body.

To SAC: Fields + 2014 2nd RD Pick (OKC) + 2017 2nd RD Pick (NYK)
To TOR: Hayes + Fredette

balances out both rosters nicely.

- Kleiza amnestied
- Camby + Richardson bought out.
- Chris Wright signed

Kyle Lowry / Jimmer Fredette / Dwight Buycks
Demar Derozan / Terrence Ross
Rudy Gay / Steve Novak / Chris Wright
Amir Johnson / Tyler Hansbrough / Quincy Acy
Jonas Valanciunas / Chuck Hayes / Aaron Gray

team remains below luxury tax, we get tougher with Hayes and add another good shooter in Fredette. That is a Dwayne Casey type team.

probably the best "easy" tweak we can make. solves PG and add a big which we still need.

jvuc · Post #1149 » by **jvuc** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:17 pm

With the Kleiza amnesty, how much cap space do the raptors have available to sign an UFA PG or other player (using cap space, MLE, BE etc)?

StopitLeo · Post #1150 » by **StopitLeo** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:25 pm

sweetcity wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:simple, brought up before but without Aaron Gray because i expect Camby to be bought out and Gray could be decent to keep around as a big body.

To SAC: Fields + 2014 2nd RD Pick (OKC) + 2017 2nd RD Pick (NYK)
To TOR: Hayes + Fredette

balances out both rosters nicely.

- Kleiza amnestied
- Camby + Richardson bought out.
- Chris Wright signed

Kyle Lowry / Jimmer Fredette / Dwight Buycks
Demar Derozan / Terrence Ross
Rudy Gay / Steve Novak / Chris Wright
Amir Johnson / Tyler Hansbrough / Quincy Acy
Jonas Valanciunas / Chuck Hayes / Aaron Gray

team remains below luxury tax, we get tougher with Hayes and add another good shooter in Fredette. That is a Dwayne Casey type team.

probably the best "easy" tweak we can make. solves PG and add a big which we still need.

I like Jimmer for his shooting . I don't see why he can't carve out a specialty in the league. But that PG depth is pretty bad. The only way it works is because Rudy can handle the ball well (although his ability to create for others is up for debate).

Post #1151 » by **Hassassin** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:40 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:simple, brought up before but without Aaron Gray because i expect Camby to be bought out and Gray could be decent to keep around as a big body.

To SAC: Fields + 2014 2nd RD Pick (OKC) + 2017 2nd RD Pick (NYK)
To TOR: Hayes + Fredette

balances out both rosters nicely.

- Kleiza amnestied
- Camby + Richardson bought out.
- Chris Wright signed

Kyle Lowry / Jimmer Fredette / Dwight Buycks
Demar Derozan / Terrence Ross
Rudy Gay / Steve Novak / Chris Wright
Amir Johnson / Tyler Hansbrough / Quincy Acy
Jonas Valanciunas / Chuck Hayes / Aaron Gray

team remains below luxury tax, we get tougher with Hayes and add another good shooter in Fredette. That is a Dwayne Casey type team.

I like that trade, but I think Casey would prefer a more pass-first type. Fredette is just an undersized shooter/scorer off the bench.

DreamTeam09 · Post #1152 » by **DreamTeam09** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:08 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:simple, brought up before but without Aaron Gray because i expect Camby to be bought out and Gray could be decent to keep around as a big body.

To SAC: Fields + 2014 2nd RD Pick (OKC) + 2017 2nd RD Pick (NYK)
To TOR: Hayes + Fredette

balances out both rosters nicely.

- Kleiza amnestied
- Camby + Richardson bought out.
- Chris Wright signed

Kyle Lowry / Jimmer Fredette / Dwight Buycks
Demar Derozan / Terrence Ross
Rudy Gay / Steve Novak / Chris Wright
Amir Johnson / Tyler Hansbrough / Quincy Acy
Jonas Valanciunas / Chuck Hayes / Aaron Gray

team remains below luxury tax, we get tougher with Hayes and add another good shooter in Fredette. That is a Dwayne Casey type team.

Your trades are always the best. This trade works so well it should happen tomorrow and i'm bent it hasn't happen already.

sweetcity · Post #1153 » by **sweetcity** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:19 am

with Kleiza being amnestied I wonder if we can do something like Fields for Richard Jefferson

Holla · Post #1154 » by **Holla** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:24 am

Amensity Kleiza
Buyout Camby and Q-rich
Sign JO and PHO medical miracle staff
Sign Joey Dorsey (been really good in Europe)
Sign JJ(underrated in SAC)

Trade 1: Ross, Acy, 2014 2nd rounder, NY 2017 2nd rounder for Scola, Shannon Brown

Trade 2: Gray, Camby 2014 2nd rounder(OKC) to Dallas for VC and S&T for Brandon Wright

PG:Lowry, Brown, Buycks
SG:DD, VC, Fields
SF:Gay, Novak, JJ
PF:Scola, Amir, Phyco T, Dorsey
C:JV, JO, BW

Thats a good starting lineup and bench. Scola provides offence but little defence, but we do need a low post scorer. bench looks great, ill also try to pick-up Barbosa or trade for Lou Williams, Terry, Crawford
We stay under the tax and make a play off push.
who would you guys want more? JJ for his amazing defence and blocks or Dorsey as another hustle guy.
JJ has beef with Casey but can it work out?

Dont judge my post to harsh jus tryna have fun

CoinTossRoss31 · Post #1155 » by **CoinTossRoss31** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:20 am

The_Hater wrote:
Hassassin wrote:I'm not sure what the Suns want for Kendall Marshall. He had a poor year, but I doubt they give him away for Fields or Camby or Gray or Q Rich or Acy plus future 2nds.

I'm not sure if trading Ross for Marshall is a good deal as I never saw KM play last season but I would guess that that's likely in the ballpark of 'fair'. Both had terrible rookie seasons really.

Ross>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marshall

Even the dunk contest winner alone brings extra fans to ACC to see if he will do something spectacular. What would Marshall bring to this team?

onetwothree · Post #1156 » by **onetwothree** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:03 am

I read about 5 trade ideas. Now I know why you guys aren't GMs.

TalentEvaluator · Post #1157 » by **TalentEvaluator** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:23 am

Prefer we blow the team up a bit. Trade Lowry and gay and keep the rest until the deadline then look to move Novak and Fields for any sort of value.

Gay for Gordon+2014 1st

Lowry for Knight

The_Hater · Post #1158 » by **The_Hater** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:51 am

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Hassassin wrote:I'm not sure what the Suns want for Kendall Marshall. He had a poor year, but I doubt they give him away for Fields or Camby or Gray or Q Rich or Acy plus future 2nds.

I'm not sure if trading Ross for Marshall is a good deal as I never saw KM play last season but I would guess that that's likely in the ballpark of 'fair'. Both had terrible rookie seasons really.

Ross>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marshall

Even the dunk contest winner alone brings extra fans to ACC to see if he will do something spectacular. What would Marshall bring to this team?

The dunk contest!?! Well lets just move Ross to the untouchable list list then shall we? God knows I buy tickets everytime Utah comes to town just to watch Jeremy Evans do something spectacular.

Lippo · Post #1159 » by **Lippo** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:51 pm

The_Hater wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
I'm not sure if trading Ross for Marshall is a good deal as I never saw KM play last season but I would guess that that's likely in the ballpark of 'fair'. Both had terrible rookie seasons really.

Ross>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marshall

Even the dunk contest winner alone brings extra fans to ACC to see if he will do something spectacular. What would Marshall bring to this team?

The dunk contest!?! Well lets just move Ross to the untouchable list list then shall we? God knows I buy tickets everytime Utah comes to town just to watch Jeremy Evans do something spectacular.

Evans is kinda the exception, Vince Carter, Dominique Wilkins, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Jason Richardson, Dwight Howard.. all sell tix.

There is a reason Wilkins sold more posters than Bird or Johnson. Young fans like Dunkers.

CoachJReturns · Post #1160 » by **CoachJReturns** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:23 pm

Beaubouis would be nice. I remember when he was a rookie and everyone was raving about his defensive potential. Haven't seen him play much at all. How'd he turn out?
Robinson would just be very entertaining to watch.
Henry can shoot the 3 ball, which is more than can be said for all our other wings.