The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

[CanadaBucks]

NBA ‏@RandomNBATweets34m
According to sources, the Pistons and Bucks are discussing a sign and trade for PG Brandon Jennings in return for Brandon Knight and a pick.

I bet the level of protection on that pick is insane, if it's a first.

I think it would have to be a future 1st anyway, and Detroit quite possibly is a PO team but that rumour sounds fishy

[emunney]

It was a dumb play to try to stop Jordan at the rim. If he did that 100x, he would definitely end up in the hospital more often than he'd stop that dunk.

Plus he put him on the line. Stupid. I respect the competitiveness, but You Gotta Know When to Fold 'Em.

I disagree. He tried to make a good plan and it didn't pan out. That was a heads up play and was trying to do something good. And who cares if DeAndre has to go to the line. He is a terrible free throw shooter.

Ok. Let's say he does it one hundred times. It's a foul every time. How many times does he stop the dunk? I would tend to go with zero, but let's say 20. Jordan scores 160 points on dunks and gets 120 FTs, of which he makes 1/3. So back to 200 points.

25 times, Brandon Knight dies of internal bleeding.

[breakchains]

Does everyone really view Henson as untouchable here? I agree he's a nice piece, but defiantly not a superstar or someone I would let get in the way of acquiring someone like Rondo. Just trying to get a feel for other's opinions on him. Seems I took a little bit of flak for questioning his heart tonight.

Don't view him as untouchable, but I do view him as a pretty damn valuable asset at this point.

Honestly, it might be sad or ridiculous to say but this is how I rank the Bucks' assets right now:
1.Giannis
2.Sanders
3.2014 1st
4.Henson
5.Ersan
6.Everyone else

Giannis and Sanders I view as pseudo-untouchable. 2014 1st a notch below that. Henson a few notches below that. and then a decent sized gap, and then Ersan, who I would readily move for young assets/picks (unless Rondo was coming back, I would flip Henson and Ersan).

[Baddy Chuck]

Ok. Let's say he does it one hundred times. It's a foul every time. How many times does he stop the dunk? I would tend to go with zero, but let's say 20. Jordan scores 160 points on dunks and gets 120 FTs, of which he makes 1/3. So back to 200 points.

25 times, Brandon Knight dies of internal bleeding.

[jakecronus8]

You guys are waaaaaaay overthinking this dunked on thing. Knight reacted instinctually as a defender and got dunked on. Whoopty sh*t. Deandre Jordan still sucks.

[jakecronus8]

Does everyone really view Henson as untouchable here? I agree he's a nice piece, but defiantly not a superstar or someone I would let get in the way of acquiring someone like Rondo. Just trying to get a feel for other's opinions on him. Seems I took a little bit of flak for questioning his heart tonight.

Don't view him as untouchable, but I do view him as a pretty damn valuable asset at this point.

Honestly, it might be sad or ridiculous to say but this is how I rank the Bucks' assets right now:
1.Giannis
2.Sanders
3.2014 1st
4.Henson
5.Ersan
6.Everyone else

Giannis and Sanders I view as pseudo-untouchable. 2014 1st a notch below that. Henson a few notches below that. and then a decent sized gap, and then Ersan, who I would readily move for young assets/picks (unless Rondo was coming back, I would flip Henson and Ersan).

You got yanni way too high there. In my eyes it's

'14 #1
Henson
Sanders
Giannis

[Matches Malone]

It was a dumb play to try to stop Jordan at the rim. If he did that 100x, he would definitely end up in the hospital more often than he'd stop that dunk.

Plus he put him on the line. Stupid. I respect the competitiveness, but You Gotta Know When to Fold 'Em.

I disagree. He tried to make a good plan and it didn't pan out. That was a heads up play and was trying to do something good. And who cares if DeAndre has to go to the line. He is a terrible free throw shooter.

Ok. Let's say he does it one hundred times. It's a foul every time. How many times does he stop the dunk? I would tend to go with zero, but let's say 20. Jordan scores 160 points on dunks and gets 120 FTs, of which he makes 1/3. So back to 200 points.

25 times, Brandon Knight dies of internal bleeding.

If you'd rather have guys stand around and not do anything than that's your choice. Give me the player with the heart to stand up to punks like DeAndre, regardless if he gets burned or not. At least it shows a committment to the defensive end and makes the play tougher for DeAndre to complete. NO EASY BASKETS! Make him work for his points.

[metzy25]

Sorry I haven't been paying much attention since learning the Teague signing never happened, does anyone have any updates? Maybe some from buckpack?

[breakchains]

Does everyone really view Henson as untouchable here? I agree he's a nice piece, but defiantly not a superstar or someone I would let get in the way of acquiring someone like Rondo. Just trying to get a feel for other's opinions on him. Seems I took a little bit of flak for questioning his heart tonight.

Don't view him as untouchable, but I do view him as a pretty damn valuable asset at this point.

Honestly, it might be sad or ridiculous to say but this is how I rank the Bucks' assets right now:
1.Giannis
2.Sanders
3.2014 1st
4.Henson
5.Ersan
6.Everyone else

Giannis and Sanders I view as pseudo-untouchable. 2014 1st a notch below that. Henson a few notches below that. and then a decent sized gap, and then Ersan, who I would readily move for young assets/picks (unless Rondo was coming back, I would flip Henson and Ersan).

You got yanni way too high there. In my eyes it's

'14 #1
Henson
Sanders
Giannis

Just my opinion. We'll see who ends up right in a few years.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

It was a dumb play to try to stop Jordan at the rim. If he did that 100x, he would definitely end up in the hospital more often than he'd stop that dunk.

Plus he put him on the line. Stupid. I respect the competitiveness, but You Gotta Know When to Fold 'Em.

I disagree. He tried to make a good plan and it didn't pan out. That was a heads up play and was trying to do something good. And who cares if DeAndre has to go to the line. He is a terrible free throw shooter.

Ok. Let's say he does it one hundred times. It's a foul every time. How many times does he stop the dunk? I would tend to go with zero, but let's say 20. Jordan scores 160 points on dunks and gets 120 FTs, of which he makes 1/3. So back to 200 points.

25 times, Brandon Knight dies of internal bleeding.

We are talking about this dunk right? [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YyUXd3Lb0I[/youtube]

That dunk was really tough and I think everything had to go right for DJ on his timing and the feed to catch from that spot and throw it down from that far away. The dunk was just impressive by DJ and I bet if you tried the same thing 100x he would get an and1 33%, fouled 33% for 2 shots, and miss the other 33%. I take my chances on contesting Jordan than giving him an easy dunk.

ETA: I think JC8 is right on us over thinking it. I bet BK didn't even think he was an alley-oop and just thought it was a lob pass.

[ekpecNurollduh]

Does everyone really view Henson as untouchable here? I agree he's a nice piece, but defiantly not a superstar or someone I would let get in the way of acquiring someone like Rondo. Just trying to get a feel for other's opinions on him. Seems I took a little bit of flak for questioning his heart tonight.

I'd move him for Rondo in a heartbeat but wouldn't move him just to balance the lineup with a mediocre small forward or point.

[paulpressey25]

BJ and Udoh for Stuckey, CV and Knight does work. Add a 2016 lotto protected first and I'm in.

[ampd]

Does everyone really view Henson as untouchable here? I agree he's a nice piece, but defiantly not a superstar or someone I would let get in the way of acquiring someone like Rondo. Just trying to get a feel for other's opinions on him. Seems I took a little bit of flak for questioning his heart tonight.

Don't view him as untouchable, but I do view him as a pretty damn valuable asset at this point.

Honestly, it might be sad or ridiculous to say but this is how I rank the Bucks' assets right now:
1.Giannis
2.Sanders
3.2014 1st
4.Henson
5.Ersan
6.Everyone else

Giannis and Sanders I view as pseudo-untouchable. 2014 1st a notch below that. Henson a few notches below that. and then a decent sized gap, and then Ersan, who I would readily move for young assets/picks (unless Rondo was coming back, I would flip Henson and Ersan).

i think the rest of the nba probably sees the bucks like this if no roster changes happen and ridnour is our starter

1. sanders
2. 2014
3. henson
4. ersan
5. giannis
6. others

[emunney]

I disagree. He tried to make a good plan and it didn't pan out. That was a heads up play and was trying to do something good. And who cares if DeAndre has to go to the line. He is a terrible free throw shooter.

Ok. Let's say he does it one hundred times. It's a foul every time. How many times does he stop the dunk? I would tend to go with zero, but let's say 20. Jordan scores 160 points on dunks and gets 120 FTs, of which he makes 1/3. So back to 200 points.

25 times, Brandon Knight dies of internal bleeding.

If you'd rather have guys stand around and not do anything than that's your choice. Give me the player with the heart to stand up to punks like DeAndre, regardless if he gets burned or not. At least it shows a committment to the defensive end and makes the play tougher for DeAndre to complete. NO EASY BASKETS! Make him work for his points.

The only reason it was a hard basket was that the pass was way out in front of the hoop. Brandon Knight might as well have been a fly.

[Baddy Chuck]

1.Giannis
2.Sanders
3.2014 1st
4.Henson
5.Ersan
6.Everyone else

'14 #1
Henson
Sanders
Giannis

I think you guys are both absolutely bat **** insane if you don't think Larry is like seriously so far ahead of our other assets.

[Matches Malone]

Ok. Let's say he does it one hundred times. It's a foul every time. How many times does he stop the dunk? I would tend to go with zero, but let's say 20. Jordan scores 160 points on dunks and gets 120 FTs, of which he makes 1/3. So back to 200 points.

25 times, Brandon Knight dies of internal bleeding.

If you'd rather have guys stand around and not do anything than that's your choice. Give me the player with the heart to stand up to punks like DeAndre, regardless if he gets burned or not. At least it shows a committment to the defensive end and makes the play tougher for DeAndre to complete. NO EASY BASKETS! Make him work for his points.

The only reason it was a hard basket was that the pass was thrown behind him. Brandon Knight might as well have been a fly.

You are just looking for excuses now. If the pass wasn't thrown behind him the dunk would still be more difficult with someone in his face than having a free dunk attempt. How do you not see that?

[ampd]

BJ and Udoh for Stuckey, CV and Knight does work. Add a 2016 lotto protected first and I'm in.

i'd take bj for knight, singler, and a protected 1st

[breakchains]

1.Giannis
2.Sanders
3.2014 1st
4.Henson
5.Ersan
6.Everyone else

'14 #1
Henson
Sanders
Giannis

I think you guys are both absolutely bat **** insane if you don't think Larry is like seriously so far ahead of our other assets.

Cool dude. I said that's how I value them. Didn't expect others to agree, which is why I said it may sound ridiculous.

[jakecronus8]

1.Giannis
2.Sanders
3.2014 1st
4.Henson
5.Ersan
6.Everyone else

'14 #1
Henson
Sanders
Giannis

I think you guys are both absolutely bat **** insane if you don't think Larry is like seriously so far ahead of our other assets.

As of now there is a chance at Wiggins. To me, for a franchise stuck in purgatory, a shot at Wiggins > Sanders. He could potentially save the team from moving.

[Baddy Chuck]

BJ and Udoh for Stuckey, CV and Knight does work. Add a 2016 lotto protected first and I'm in.

i'd take bj for knight, singler, and a protected 1st

I would take BJ for Knight and anything they wanted to add. They can take Udoh if they want.