The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

[LedZepp007]

Teague said that he REALLY wanted out of ATL and wanted to play for the Bucks. Thought it was a done deal. We were all ready to celebrate. And then Ferry **** matched with about 4 hours until the deadline. Hammond offered a very reasonable sheet at 4/32. Now Jennings probably won't play for us and has a cap as to his "value" around the league.

We're ****. Ferry **** us again. **** you Ferry.

were alright. erry matching fwasnt that big a deal..... and in retrospect backing out of the smith deal probably was in our best interest long term too. were already better than last year in the east.... the top of the EC got stronger, our comp for the middle got weaker. we still got 20 million to spare.... plenty of expirings for next year in the hole. this offseason has made us better, younger, and cheaper.

nothing to get to bent about unless we make some stupid moves from here.

Hope you're kidding. We have 9th seed written all over us right now. We have to do something big at both the 1 and the 3 or this franchise is finished.

Alternatively, we trade Ersan and **** blow this mother.

Go big with 1 and 3 or tank. Otherwise **** this **** team.

[Lippo]

It was blatantly obvious Ferry was going to match any fair offer and $8mil was very fair. What else was Ferry going to do? Sign BJ for $11mil? As Bucks see, option have been depleted to zip. Chalk that up as another bungle by Ham. Signing Teague to an offer sheet gave the power to Ferry. Ham should waited Ferry out to make a S&T using the positive Drew-Teague connection as his knowing that Teague would not sign with Hawks. Instead Ham couldn't hold his wad -got excited and prematurely offered a tidy package for Ferry to match.

yeah 4yr/42m was what was needed to make Ferry Balk IMO.

At least we got them to stunt Shroeders growth for a year.

Wouldn't suprise me to see the Hawks trade Teague back to us for a 1st as soon as it becomes legal next season.
Especially if BJ leaves after playing out his QO.

[Lippo]

Teague said that he REALLY wanted out of ATL and wanted to play for the Bucks. Thought it was a done deal. We were all ready to celebrate. And then Ferry **** matched with about 4 hours until the deadline. Hammond offered a very reasonable sheet at 4/32. Now Jennings probably won't play for us and has a cap as to his "value" around the league.

We're ****. Ferry **** us again. **** you Ferry.

were alright. erry matching fwasnt that big a deal..... and in retrospect backing out of the smith deal probably was in our best interest long term too. were already better than last year in the east.... the top of the EC got stronger, our comp for the middle got weaker. we still got 20 million to spare.... plenty of expirings for next year in the hole. this offseason has made us better, younger, and cheaper.

nothing to get to bent about unless we make some stupid moves from here.

Hope you're kidding. We have 9th seed written all over us right now. We have to do something big at both the 1 and the 3 or this franchise is finished.

Alternatively, we trade Ersan and **** blow this mother.

Go big with 1 and 3 or tank. Otherwise **** this **** team.

We are a Sanders & Ersan season ending injury away from Wiggins.

[Lippo]

What about Nash, think they Lakers are ready to Tank and start shedding salary.

Jennings S&T for Nash

BJ would probably take 4/30m to play for the Lakers.

[CanadaBucks]

We have 9th seed written all over us right now

You may be right but I don't see six teams we are better than right now.

I would say Orlando and Philly and ???????????????????????????????

Boston-not right now
Toronto-depth wise maybe but not starting 5
Charlotte-quite possibly we are


Any other teams are better on paper and barring signifcant injuries or regression of players

[driese0824]

Morning Everyone!

Just returned from my Greece/Italy trip yesterday (and, no I couldn't find a Giannis Antetokounmpo 2nd division Filathlitikos jersey anywhere.) Most people didn't even know the name. Oh well...

When I left I was hoping to be able to discuss a completely revamped Bucks roster upon returning. So let me get this straight...

OJ Mayo 3/24 (I'm good with that one)
Zaza Pachulia 3/15
Carlos Delfino 2/6
Luke Ridnour 1/4

So OJ Mayo and three former Bucks retreads in arguably the most important offseason in franchise history? What am I missing? I see we offered Teague a deal that was matched. Without me having to read hundreds of pages, can someone please explain to me what the fug is going on? Whats the deal with Jennings? Why did the Bucks not offer more for Teague if they wanted him to be the starting PG? Any other rumors floated from BuckPack to get me excited about this season?[/quote]

BuckPack has gone MIA. Looks like you're pretty much caught up. Might sign and trade Jennings. He (not surprisingly) is said to be very unhappy with us right now. BP said at one point we were heavily targeting a "FA" SF, who we thought was AK47. Obs, that didn't work if he was the target. Now thinking it might be Granger.

Hammond has done better than usual, but still got owned by Danny Ferry on a reasonable offer sheet to Teague. Many of us believe that the success of the offseason depended on Ferry not matching. But, he did. Now we need to address the 1 and the 3 or we're ****.

please explain to me how hammonds got owned by ferry just cause he matched it,man people here will throw hammonds under the bus for anything even if another GN matches his offer.WOW

[driese0824]

Teague said that he REALLY wanted out of ATL and wanted to play for the Bucks. Thought it was a done deal. We were all ready to celebrate. And then Ferry **** matched with about 4 hours until the deadline.

Ugh. Not that I wanted to overpay Teague, as I've only seen him play extended minutes vs the Bucks, but why not offer more if you really want him to be the PG? I'd rather throw 4/40 his way than burn money on ZaZa and Delfino. Seems like another very Bucks-like situation in that they sign end-of-the-bench guys before inking starters. Priorities, priorities. Well, thanks for the info.

betcha 50 bucks ferry matched 4/40 then all these hammonds haters would of said damn him he should of went 4/46

[Lippo]

BuckPack has gone MIA. Looks like you're pretty much caught up. Might sign and trade Jennings. He (not surprisingly) is said to be very unhappy with us right now. BP said at one point we were heavily targeting a "FA" SF, who we thought was AK47. Obs, that didn't work if he was the target. Now thinking it might be Granger.

Hammond has done better than usual, but still got owned by Danny Ferry on a reasonable offer sheet to Teague. Many of us believe that the success of the offseason depended on Ferry not matching. But, he did. Now we need to address the 1 and the 3 or we're ****.

please explain to me how hammonds got owned by ferry just cause he matched it,man people here will throw hammonds under the bus for anything even if another GN matches his offer.WOW

Ferry played us 2x now, trade deadline and now with Teague.
If the 2 were in a poker game together, Hammonds would walk home naked and without the keys to his car and home.

[driese0824]

It was blatantly obvious Ferry was going to match any fair offer and $8mil was very fair. What else was Ferry going to do? Sign BJ for $11mil? As Bucks see, option have been depleted to zip. Chalk that up as another bungle by Ham. Signing Teague to an offer sheet gave the power to Ferry. Ham should waited Ferry out to make a S&T using the positive Drew-Teague connection as his knowing that Teague would not sign with Hawks. Instead Ham couldn't hold his wad -got excited and prematurely offered a tidy package for Ferry to match.

ferry had said before and after the offer sheet that he was no way shape or form going to do a sign and trade with Teague,the only the way the bucks would of gotten Teague is if and only if ferry didn't match the offer sheet.Damn get off the blame hammonds on this one the majority of us thought that offer to Teague was fair

[LedZepp007]

please explain to me how hammonds got owned by ferry just cause he matched it,man people here will throw hammonds under the bus for anything even if another GN matches his offer.WOW

First of all it's Hammond not "Hammonds." Learn his name before you defend him.

It's not just that Ferry got the upper hand, it's that Hammond HAS NO FU*KING BACKUP PLAN.

If you have one deal that is going to make or break your offseason, YOU MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS. I would have preferred to overpay Jeff Teague (yes, Jeff Teague) to being stuck with Brandon Jennings, malcontent.

We have very few things we can do to salvage this. We should tank. But, we aren't going to, so good luck John. I don't envy you or Herb's pocketbook right now.

We will literally have to completely mortgage the future to have a playoff team this year.

[Lippo]

It was blatantly obvious Ferry was going to match any fair offer and $8mil was very fair. What else was Ferry going to do? Sign BJ for $11mil? As Bucks see, option have been depleted to zip. Chalk that up as another bungle by Ham. Signing Teague to an offer sheet gave the power to Ferry. Ham should waited Ferry out to make a S&T using the positive Drew-Teague connection as his knowing that Teague would not sign with Hawks. Instead Ham couldn't hold his wad -got excited and prematurely offered a tidy package for Ferry to match.

ferry had said before and after the offer sheet that he was no way shape or form going to do a sign and trade with Teague,the only the way the bucks would of gotten Teague is if and only if ferry didn't match the offer sheet.Damn get off the blame hammonds on this one the majority of us thought that offer to Teague was fair

Yep it was better than fair, thats why Ferry matched, so he can trade him for assets later. If we wanted Teague, we had to pay him more than fair market value, so he was no longer a trade asset. It all comes down to what JT was worth to us and what our contingency plan was. As soon as Dallas got Ellis, I was 99.99% sure Ferry was going to match Teague.

[driese0824]

BuckPack has gone MIA. Looks like you're pretty much caught up. Might sign and trade Jennings. He (not surprisingly) is said to be very unhappy with us right now. BP said at one point we were heavily targeting a "FA" SF, who we thought was AK47. Obs, that didn't work if he was the target. Now thinking it might be Granger.

Hammond has done better than usual, but still got owned by Danny Ferry on a reasonable offer sheet to Teague. Many of us believe that the success of the offseason depended on Ferry not matching. But, he did. Now we need to address the 1 and the 3 or we're ****.

please explain to me how hammonds got owned by ferry just cause he matched it,man people here will throw hammonds under the bus for anything even if another GN matches his offer.WOW

Ferry played us 2x now, trade deadline and now with Teague.
If the 2 were in a poker game together, Hammonds would walk home naked and without the keys to his car and home.

he matched the offer how is that playing hammonds man im surprised y0ou r not blaming hammonds for the cost of fuel or the recession

[Treebeard]

it's that Hammond HAS NO FU*KING BACKUP PLAN.

If you have one deal that is going to make or break your offseason, YOU MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS.

.... We will literally have to completely mortgage the future to have a playoff team this year.

Bingo. There's always an inherent risk in signing an RFA, that the offer is matched. Since that's the case - what's the contingency plan?

[Lippo]

please explain to me how hammonds got owned by ferry just cause he matched it,man people here will throw hammonds under the bus for anything even if another GN matches his offer.WOW

Ferry played us 2x now, trade deadline and now with Teague.
If the 2 were in a poker game together, Hammonds would walk home naked and without the keys to his car and home.

he matched the offer how is that playing hammonds man im surprised y0ou r not blaming hammonds for the cost of fuel or the recession

Its a chess game, the whole, Ellis/Teague/BJ contracts are pieces, if Hammond wanted Teague he has to guess Ferrys value of him and outbid it, he guessed wrong. I'll bet he had sources saying Ferry wanted Ellis and that he could get Teague for a song, and then Dallas swooped in and got Ellis and our song turned into a Stryker love balad. Hence Hammond lost out of his gamble and his tactics failed AGAIN.

[paulpressey25]

Other GM's play chess games. Multi-dimensional chess when you add in the salary cap considerations.

Hammond? He's still trying to figure out that peg game they have at the Cracker Barrel and whether or not he can swipe some for use as golf tees.

[bigdog34]

We have 9th seed written all over us right now

You may be right but I don't see six teams we are better than right now.

I would say Orlando and Philly and ???????????????????????????????

Boston-not right now
Toronto-depth wise maybe but not starting 5
Charlotte-quite possibly we are


Any other teams are better on paper and barring signifcant injuries or regression of players

Is this a sign or what?!!!

Milwaukee Bucks ✔ @Bucks

CORRECTION: Bucks are seeded 9th after preliminary round of @NBASummerLeague. Next game is THURSDAY at 3:30 pm CT vs LAL. #BucksSummerLeague

[worthlessBucks]

The best part about this kid is that he went out and got a professional headshot done so he'd be taken more seriously. Everyone please overlook the fact that I do nothing but steal rumors that come across my timeline and I claim them as my own. I'm connected here!

[CanadaBucks]

The best part about this kid is that he went out and got a professional headshot done so he'd be taken more seriously. Everyone please overlook the fact that I do nothing but steal rumors that come across my timeline and I claim them as my own. I'm connected here!

Should I be embarrassed that he's Canadian?

[LedZepp007]

Is the ball glued to his hand?

[BuckFan25226]

Is the ball glued to his hand?

Fishing string.