Player stats for this coming season

mirv · Post #1 » by **mirv** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:08 am

I'm interested to see everyone's opinion on what kind of individual stats that each suns player should put up this season.

Assume that the roster stays as is.

DRK · Post #2 » by **DRK** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:04 am

Sneaky Fantasy Pre-Draft Research for you here hey?

Sorry. I refuse to help out rivals. :wink:

Dragic13 · Post #3 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:16 am

Im going to base this on last years stats for some kind of perspective...Last year we averaged 95/42/23

Bledsoe 14/3/7
Dragic 18/2/5
Tucker 7/5/1
Markieff 8/5/1
Gortat 13/9/1

Marshall 4/1/4
Brown 7/2/1
Marcus 6/4/1
Scola 10/5/1
Len 8/6/1

= 95 points 42 rebounds 23 assists

My vision of how the stats will spread out based on last years average 8-)

Barkley6 · Post #4 » by **Barkley6** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:41 am

Dragic13 wrote:Im going to base this on last years stats for some kind of perspective...Last year we averaged 95/42/23

Bledsoe 14/3/7
Dragic 18/2/5
Tucker 7/5/1
Markieff 8/5/1
Gortat 13/9/1

Marshall 4/1/4
Brown 7/2/1
Marcus 6/4/1
Scola 10/5/1
Len 8/6/1

= 95 points 42 rebounds 23 assists

My vision of how the stats will spread out based on last years average

If that holds true, we'll easily be the worst team in the league. Also, you forgot Frye. Though admittedly his comtribution is a total enigma at this point.

RunSunRun · Post #5 » by **RunSunRun** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:57 am

Barkley6 wrote:
If that holds true, we'll easily be the worst team in the league.

Pretty much guaranteed to be one of the worst teams next year, Philly probably has us beat for the title of worst though. Think most of us are not expecting much wins next year, besides the most hardcore Suns believers.

However, stat-wise, I'd rather look at PER, shooting percentages/TS%, etc. etc. It will help to see how effective our young guys are and hopefully see how well our guys feed off of each other. It also will help identify those players who put up useless numbers like Beasley who will probably have a few games putting up what looks to be impressive looking numbers, but will probably have terrible percentages.

Dragic13 wrote: /stats )

I also enjoy how Dragic13 just flat out leaves Beasley out of the equation, that works for me too, :lol:

Dragic13 · Post #6 » by **Dragic13** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:57 am

Well we wont be the best team in the league but I think we will be better than people expect. A good draft pick next year and if Goodwin develops well enough by next year we should be pretty solid. This year is all about development.

mirv · Post #7 » by **mirv** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:13 am

DRK wrote:Sneaky Fantasy Pre-Draft Research for you here hey?

Sorry. I refuse to help out rivals.

HAHA, wasn't even thinking of that, good idea though :wink:

Gorilla Warfare · Post #8 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:23 am

Archie Goodwin: 37 ppg, 13 rpg, and 14 apg.

Doesn't matter what anyone else puts up.

mirv · Post #9 » by **mirv** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:31 am

I really hope that both Brown and Beasley are not in the rotation, therefore Goodwin should have a go for a lot of the season.

I'll give it a go:

Pts/Rbs/Ass/Blk/Stl

Dragic - 17/2/7/-/1.5
Bledsoe - 15/4/5/1/2
Butler - 12/3/2/-/.5
Kieff - 11/6/1/.8/1
Gortat - 13/9/1/1.7/.5

Goodwin - 5/2/2/-/.7
Tucker - 6/4/1/-/.7
Marcus - 7/3/1/-/.5
Scola - 10/6/1/-/.5
Len - 7/6/1/1/.8

That leaves Marshall, Brown, Beasley and Lee for Garbage time.
I think this team is gonna look very different in the second half of the season though.

Sunsdeuce · Post #10 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:47 pm

I think predicting Bledsoe and dragic stats is going to be difficult. Dragic is easily a better distributor thus I think dragic assist number are going to out class bledsoes by at least 3-4 assists a games. The points per game may be level between the two. Obviously rebounding and steals favor Bledsoe.

NaturalBuns · Post #11 » by **NaturalBuns** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:31 pm

We will be better then last season. I mean cmon down the stretch we tanked. We could of had more wins. Far from playoff team though

Post #12 » by **TASTIC** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:20 pm

Agree with mitch for the most part

Dragic 16-4-6
Bledsoe 14-5-6
Butler 13-4-2
Kieff 10-6-2
Gortat 13-8

Beasley 9-3
Frye 9-4
Scola 10-6
Brown 7-2-2
Goodwin 7-2-3
Len....tough...I think 6-3 initially but after Gortat goes 10-7

phrazbit · Post #13 » by **phrazbit** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:36 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:We will be better then last season. I mean cmon down the stretch we tanked. We could of had more wins. Far from playoff team though

If you think they tanked last year then why on earth would they not do it this year? There is a better draft class, both the coach and the GM have job security, our GM is anything but attached to this current crop of players.

I think McDonough is looking forward to tearing most of this roster down and building something in his own mold.

mirv · Post #14 » by **mirv** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:51 pm

TASTIC wrote:Agree with mitch for the most part

Dragic 16-4-6
Bledsoe 14-5-6
Butler 13-4-2
Kieff 10-6-2
Gortat 13-8

Beasley 9-3
Frye 9-4
Scola 10-6
Brown 7-2-2
Goodwin 7-2-3
Len....tough...I think 6-3 initially but after Gortat goes 10-7

Oops I forgot about Frye. I'm interested to see how our power forward rotation works with morris, Frye and scola all being worthy.

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Damkac · Post #15 » by **Damkac** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:42 pm

Dragic 15p 7a 3r 1s 27min
Bledsoe 13p 5a 5r 1s 27min
Tucker 6p 4r 1a 17min
Markieff 10p 6r 1b 1a 1s 25min
Gortat 12p 9r 1,5b 26min

Butler 4p 1 r 11min
Marshall 4p 4a 1r 15min
Brown 1,5p 4min
Marcus 7p 3,5r 16min
Len 8p 5r 1b 18min
Beasley 5p 1,5r 9min
Frye 7p 4r 15min
Goodwin 7p 2r 1a 17min
Green 1,5p 4min
Plumlee 1p 1,5r 4min

There is so many players it's hard to give everyone minutes :-?

Twuan89 · Post #16 » by **Twuan89** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:38 pm

Dragic13 wrote:Well we wont be the best team in the league but I think we will be better than people expect. A good draft pick next year and if Goodwin develops well enough by next year we should be pretty solid. This year is all about development.

True!

Twuan89 · Post #17 » by **Twuan89** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:40 pm

Dragic13 wrote:Well we wont be the best team in the league but I think we will be better than people expect. A good draft pick next year and if Goodwin develops well enough by next year we should be pretty solid. This year is all about development.

Thats True!

phrazbit · Post #18 » by **phrazbit** » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:51 pm

Damkac wrote:Dragic 15p 7a 3r 1s 27min
Bledsoe 13p 5a 5r 1s 27min
Tucker 6p 4r 1a 17min
Markieff 10p 6r 1b 1a 1s 25min
Gortat 12p 9r 1,5b 26min

Butler 4p 1 r 11min
Marshall 4p 4a 1r 15min
Brown 1,5p 4min
Marcus 7p 3,5r 16min
Len 8p 5r 1b 18min
Beasley 5p 1,5r 9min
Frye 7p 4r 15min
Goodwin 7p 2r 1a 17min
Green 1,5p 4min
Plumlee 1p 1,5r 4min

There is so many players it's hard to give everyone minutes

They will not bother to get everyone minutes. Brown, Green, Beasley, Marshall, Marcus Morris and Frye (if he is healthy) will probably all be in and out of the rotation, with several of them almost never playing.

NapoleonII · Post #19 » by **NapoleonII** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:27 am

Twuan89 wrote:
Dragic13 wrote:Well we wont be the best team in the league but I think we will be better than people expect. A good draft pick next year and if Goodwin develops well enough by next year we should be pretty solid. This year is all about development.

True!

I do hate tanking, and am intrigued with the Houston Rockets "asset-driven" rebuild, but 17 of the past twenty teams have won the title with a player drafted in the top 5 that turned into a franchise "corner-stone". The base fact of the matter is that you need to draft well, and draft in the top 5.

You want guys to play hard, to develop, but build your roster for the future. This roster is built for 25 wins, and we shouldn't pretend to be something we're not. We're rebuilding, we need a Wiggins or a Parker.