The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread

Post #841 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:49 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Adam Zagoria: DeJuan Blair is interested in signing with the Wizards, source tells @SNYtv.

Yep, already posted in the Blair thread.

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pcbothwel · Post #842 » by **pcbothwel** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:28 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Rox get Aaron Brooks for 1 year, $1m.

Wow, that Maynor signing looks worse and worse.

I understand your initial reaction, but i think your remembering the 25 y/o Brooks from 2009 who flashed potential. He is a better scorer than maynor, but he is not near the pg/floor general maynor is and he is actually a worse defender. Combine that with the fact that Maynor is 3 years younger and now fully healed from knee surgery and I actually think I lean towards maynor.

hands11 · Post #843 » by **hands11** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:44 am

Mark down 2016 on your calender.

TOR doesn't seem to be able to hold onto players very well.

That when Jonas Valananciunas comes free.

dckingsfan · Post #844 » by **dckingsfan** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:22 pm

I am surprised that Nate Robinson, Mo Williams and Beno Udrih haven't been signed... I still don't have much faith in Maynor, guess there isn't much of a chance that one of them would sign for the minimum but... this is still a guard's league and what happened last year without an adequate point guard should still sting.

verbal8 · Post #845 » by **verbal8** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:05 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I am surprised that Nate Robinson, Mo Williams and Beno Udrih haven't been signed... I still don't have much faith in Maynor, guess there isn't much of a chance that one of them would sign for the minimum but... this is still a guard's league and what happened last year without an adequate point guard should still sting.

I think Udrih and Mo Williams would have been the perfect targets with the deal that was given to Maynor. It would let them showcase themselves for one last long term significant deal. Mo Williams may be holding out for a starting job, but Udrih has been primarily a back-up and would really only have Glen Rice Jr as the only competition to back-up both positions.

mhd · Post #846 » by **mhd** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:08 pm

Mo Williams is way better than Maynor is. I understand he wants $, but he would have been an ideal combo guard off the bench.

Kanyewest · Post #847 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:15 pm

Mo Williams said he wants to start in Utah- so I'm guessing wherever he looks to sign he wants to be a starter.

dckingsfan · Post #848 » by **dckingsfan** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:41 pm

At this point, all of the starting PG jobs are taken sans Milwaukee, no?

Kanyewest · Post #849 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:01 pm

^^ Yup- pretty much- he has probably overplayed his hand.

Post #850 » by **LyricalRico** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:52 pm

^ Him and Ellis both. Monta's lucky Dallas struck out on everyone else. At least he got a multi-year deal. Jennings will probably play for the qualifying offer IMO.

FAH1223 · Post #851 » by **FAH1223** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:00 am

Man, I wish we got Nate Robinson at the beginning of free agency rather than Maynor.

The only thing left this offseason would have been to find that capable stretch 4 off the bench... and then this offseason would have been an A+.

Now I have it as a C.

Post #852 » by **nate33** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:00 pm

hands11 wrote:Mark down 2016 on your calender.

TOR doesn't seem to be able to hold onto players very well.

That when Jonas Valananciunas comes free.

Shouldn't we be marking down 2015? That's when he becomes a restricted free agent. Yeah, he could take the qualifying option and become unrestricted in 2016, but that doesn't typically happen with high draft picks. If Valanciunas makes it known that he doesn't want to play in Toronto, they would trade him at the trade deadline in February 2015, or they would sign-and-trade him in the Summer of 2015.

TGW · Post #853 » by **TGW** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:05 pm

hands11 wrote:Mark down 2016 on your calender.

TOR doesn't seem to be able to hold onto players very well.

That when Jonas Valananciunas comes free.

Their GM is way better than ours. Don't see hit happening.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #854 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:41 pm

pcbothwel wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Rox get Aaron Brooks for 1 year, $1m.

Wow, that Maynor signing looks worse and worse.

I understand your initial reaction, but i think your remembering the 25 y/o Brooks from 2009 who flashed potential. He is a better scorer than maynor, but he is not near the pg/floor general maynor is and he is actually a worse defender. Combine that with the fact that Maynor is 3 years younger and now fully healed from knee surgery and I actually think I lean towards maynor.

Maynor has some legit upside left IMO. Udrih, Brooks, and Williams don't. I'm fine with Maynor. I think he's a good fit and this is the right situation for him. I think he's going to surprise people with how competent he is.

nuposse04 · Post #855 » by **nuposse04** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:42 pm

Marc Gasol will be an UFA in '15, will also be 30 by then. He's my favorite center in the game, and would be perfect to pair with Wall and Beal with his ability to pass and shoot. His game really isn't predicated on athleticism so I think he'd have 3 good years in him by then.

DCZards · Post #856 » by **DCZards** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:06 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
Maynor has some legit upside left IMO. Udrih, Brooks, and Williams don't. I'm fine with Maynor. I think he's a good fit and this is the right situation for him. I think he's going to surprise people with how competent he is.

Maynor is not going to "wow" people with his scoring and athleticism like a Nate Robinson or a Aaron Brooks might, but he's a better, more poised playmaker than both of them. That's what I like about him.

Post #857 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:24 pm

DCZards wrote:
stevemcqueen1 wrote:
Maynor has some legit upside left IMO. Udrih, Brooks, and Williams don't. I'm fine with Maynor. I think he's a good fit and this is the right situation for him. I think he's going to surprise people with how competent he is.

Maynor is not going to "wow" people with his scoring and athleticism like a Nate Robinson or a Aaron Brooks might, but he's a better, more poised playmaker than both of them. That's what I like about him.

Yeah, while I agree with the critics that the Wiz jumped the gun in signing him, let's at least give Maynor an opportunity to prove whether or not he's a good player - and recognize his last 2 seasons were crushed by the ACL injury.

Nivek · Post #858 » by **Nivek** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:51 pm

If you've been a Wizards fan for any length of time, you're familiar with rooting for guys that you think were...hmm...less than optimal acquisitions. So, I'm pulling for Maynor, and hoping he'll be able to reverse his previous form and become a good NBA player. The analytic side of my brain can't help but point out that he was pretty bad before he tore his ACL, which means the injury isn't much of a reason for him not being good. But, I've been a Wizards fan for 35 years, so...go Maynor!

Post #859 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:14 pm

His only 2 other years were his first 2 years in the NBA. A lot of good NBA PG's stunk in their 1st 2 years. I'd treat this like his 3rd year.

Nivek · Post #860 » by **Nivek** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:18 pm

Ruzious wrote:His only 2 other years were his first 2 years in the NBA. A lot of good NBA PG's stunk in their 1st 2 years. I'd treat this like his 3rd year.

No question. And for the record, I think he's worth bringing to see. But, they could have brought him in at the minimum instead of using the BAE. Bygones, I guess.

When I ran his 2nd season through my statistical doppleganger machine, his comps were pretty nondescript. The only name I really remember is Doug Overton.