The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

[Chapter29]

I think that particular video should be posted every page until the few remaining Jennings supporters have seen it. Not quite sure how you can be a Jennings supporter after seeing that. Outside of the feeling that he can in theory improve, I see nothing to like.

I don't see the video as all that damning and it certainly didn't say anything we didn't already know. Bumping a biased video doesn't change anything.

Also I don't think there are many "Jennings Supporters," even on this board. Most everybody hates him. However, it can be statistically shown he's improving and remains a young player with continued growth potential. While there are reasons to be critical of the player, there are also reasons to praise the player.

Its hardly biased its factual. Outside of "potential" he really doesn't do much well.

If you'd like we could create a list of things to be critical on and things he should be praised for.

[Nebula1]

Well either way, the video didn't present anything new and certainly didn't highlight anything good for Jennings. It is what it is and IMO folks are simply far too bearish on him.

If the Bucks can re-sign him for fair value, I think that's what they should do and retain their asset.

[HELPLESS]

I think that particular video should be posted every page until the few remaining Jennings supporters have seen it. Not quite sure how you can be a Jennings supporter after seeing that. Outside of the feeling that he can in theory improve, I see nothing to like.

I don't see the video as all that damning and it certainly didn't say anything we didn't already know. Bumping a biased video doesn't change anything.

Also I don't think there are many "Jennings Supporters," even on this board. Most everybody hates him. However, it can be statistically shown he's improving and remains a young player with continued growth potential. While there are reasons to be critical of the player, there are also reasons to praise the player.

Its hardly biased its factual. Outside of "potential" he really doesn't do much well.

If you'd like we could create a list of things to be critical on and things he should be praised for.

That drum has already been beaten.

Every weakness Jennings has Nebula thinks he can and will improve upon. He's entitled to his opinion but listing Jennings strength (note the singular) and weaknesses isn't going to convince him one way or the other.

There are a couple of posters who thinks Jennings has "explosive" potential and the majority seem to believe he is what he is. After 5 professional seasons; you can figure out where I stand.

[HurricaneKid]

I think that's what they should do and retain their asset.

You aren't the only one around here that throws that word (asset) around but it is used far too often. We have seen the market for BJ. We have seen what the league-wide demand is for him. If he gets 60% of what he wants he (and his contract) will be a LIABILITY, not as asset.

[eagle13]

as far as being an asset BJ's a$$ can set in street clothes until hell freezes over.

[LedZepp007]

I think that particular video should be posted every page until the few remaining Jennings supporters have seen it. Not quite sure how you can be a Jennings supporter after seeing that. Outside of the feeling that he can in theory improve, I see nothing to like.

I don't see the video as all that damning and it certainly didn't say anything we didn't already know. Bumping a biased video doesn't change anything.

Also I don't think there are many "Jennings Supporters," even on this board. Most everybody hates him. However, it can be statistically shown he's improving and remains a young player with continued growth potential. While there are reasons to be critical of the player, there are also reasons to praise the player.

When will you let go?


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[LedZepp007]

Most every one of Jennings' "strengths" comes with a "but," e.g., "He doesn't turn the ball over, BUT it's because he is a shoot first guard who shoots early in the shot clock."


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[Chapter29]

I don't see the video as all that damning and it certainly didn't say anything we didn't already know. Bumping a biased video doesn't change anything.

Also I don't think there are many "Jennings Supporters," even on this board. Most everybody hates him. However, it can be statistically shown he's improving and remains a young player with continued growth potential. While there are reasons to be critical of the player, there are also reasons to praise the player.

Its hardly biased its factual. Outside of "potential" he really doesn't do much well.

If you'd like we could create a list of things to be critical on and things he should be praised for.

That drum has already been beaten.

Every weakness Jennings has Nebula thinks he can and will improve upon. He's entitled to his opinion but listing Jennings strength (note the singular) and weaknesses isn't going to convince him one way or the other.

There are a couple of posters who thinks Jennings has "explosive" potential and the majority seem to believe he is what he is. After 5 professional seasons; you can figure out where I stand.

It is fine to say that he has potential and will improve. A part of me thinks he can too...at this point though I feel that is maybe the wishful part of me. However the facts say that he wasn't very good, at many things none the less not just shooting.

So fine. He has this huge upside. What is he worth is the question I ask? Because for me Jennings at 5M is a no-brainer, I'll sign him at 5 because I don't feel as bad about that 5 coming off the bench. Is he worth more due to his "potential"? This potential mind you that he has squandered thus far? Maybe a little. Or how about a shorter term contract or add a ton of incentives if you can.

My guess is that Jennings is over 10M and the GM's are in the 5-7M range or so.

[jokeboy86]

I think that particular video should be posted every page until the few remaining Jennings supporters have seen it. Not quite sure how you can be a Jennings supporter after seeing that. Outside of the feeling that he can in theory improve, I see nothing to like.

I don't see the video as all that damning and it certainly didn't say anything we didn't already know. Bumping a biased video doesn't change anything.

Also I don't think there are many "Jennings Supporters," even on this board. Most everybody hates him. However, it can be statistically shown he's improving and remains a young player with continued growth potential. While there are reasons to be critical of the player, there are also reasons to praise the player.

Don't hate Jennings just think he is what he is. If he's still here next year I hope he improves his game tremendously. The reason I dont think he will ever be a top 10 pg will not be bc he doesn't try or anything, I just think that it seems like each year another young pg enters the league who is already better than him. I know its only one year but I already think Lillard is better than him. I actually think Trey Burke has the potential to be better than him and quickly. And I say will say this forever, going overseas did nothing for Brandon Jennings basketball wise. You can't tell me he wouldn't have been better served playing at a top D1 program under a top d1 coach. It might have done wonders for him.

[MrPerfect1]

I think Jennings "potential" is a huge myth. I'd love to see a list of how many players have played as many minutes as Jennings has during their 1st 4 years, then suddenly, significantly improved later on in their careers.

I would suspect it is a tiny list if it even exists

[Baddy Chuck]

However, it can be statistically shown he's improving

And what stats would those be? There is basically no stat that shows he's really improved much from an already insanely bad rookie and sophomore season. The past three seasons he's been pretty steadily awful, and actually regressed last season compared to year 3.

[EastSideBucksFan]

However, it can be statistically shown he's improving

And what stats would those be? There is basically no stat that shows he's really improved much from an already insanely bad rookie and sophomore season. The past three seasons he's been pretty steadily awful, and actually regressed last season compared to year 3.

FG% improved in years 1-3

Year 1: 37.1%
year 2: 39.0%
Year 3: 41.8%
Year 4: 39.9%

[Nebula1]

I'd love to hear TS% predictions for the 13/14 campaign.

[LUKE23]

.517.

[Baddy Chuck]

Depends what team he's on.

Our team, no higher then .520.
Another team where he's a 3rd+ option, no higher then .530.

Probably .515.

[MrPerfect1]

FG% improved in years 1-3

Year 1: 37.1%
year 2: 39.0%
Year 3: 41.8%
Year 4: 39.9%

It shows how laughably bad of a shooter Jennings is when 41.8% represents 2 years of improvement.

[Baddy Chuck]

FG% improved in years 1-3

Year 1: 37.1%
year 2: 39.0%
Year 3: 41.8%
Year 4: 39.9%

So his average for four years is 39.5% and his last season was 39.9%. Damn, he's really improving.

[blazza18]

Kind of amazing how we were ok with a guy shooting the ball so much with those percentages.

[giraldo5]

I'd love to hear TS% predictions for the 13/14 campaign.

In the bottom 10 of starting pgs

[MrPerfect1]

Kind of amazing how we were ok with a guy shooting the ball so much with those percentages.

I assume by "we" you mean the FO. I was never ok with it