58 wins: would you take over/under?

[M I K E]

Lets PLEASE not get ahead of ourselves. Im predicting 55 wins with everyone healthy.

If everybody stays healthy 55 wins should be our bottom #...If everybody stays healthy we might be right around 58-60...We won 49 games last season with less talent than we have now.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Lets PLEASE not get ahead of ourselves. Im predicting 55 wins with everyone healthy.

If everybody stays healthy 55 wins should be our bottom #...If everybody stays healthy we might be right around 58-60...We won 49 games last season with a less talent than we have now.

That sounds great when you say it like that, but Im not convinced we have a 60 win team.

Im not a homer.

This team still has major questions. Can Deron Williams play like a superstar for a FULL SEASON? Can Kidd coach effectively? Can Lopez take the next step?

All these things need to happen for us to be a 60 win team.

[PetroNet]

Lets PLEASE not get ahead of ourselves. Im predicting 55 wins with everyone healthy.

If everybody stays healthy 55 wins should be our bottom #...If everybody stays healthy we might be right around 58-60...We won 49 games last season with a less talent than we have now.

That sounds great when you say it like that, but Im not convinced we have a 60 win team.

Im not a homer.

This team still has major questions. Can Deron Williams play like a superstar for a FULL SEASON? Can Kidd coach effectively? Can Lopez take the next step?

All these things need to happen for us to be a 60 win team.

in my opinion we dont need any of those 3 things to happen to win 60 games. dwill can just be good, lopez can be the same guy he was last year, and kidd can take his lumps and we can still win 60.

we have things that matter much more then that. talent and depth. our depth is by far our biggest asset. id say even with heavy huge injuries we should win 55 or so

[VCRJKidd15]

It all depends on Health so I'd take under. I'd say this team wins 50-54 games due to resting players and the possibilities of injury. Even though AK47 is coming off the bench dude gets injured every year

[M I K E]

That sounds great when you say it like that, but Im not convinced we have a 60 win team.

Im not a homer.

The Knicks won 54 games last season...We won 49 with Deron playing poorly for most of the first half of the season...Now we added Garnett, Pierce and AK so I expect at least 55 wins with 60 being the ceiling.

But I do respect your caution and concern on this matter HelloBrooklyn.

[JoseRizal]

55 wins is the most realistic atm...

[Paradise]

Lets PLEASE not get ahead of ourselves. Im predicting 55 wins with everyone healthy.

If everybody stays healthy 55 wins should be our bottom #...If everybody stays healthy we might be right around 58-60...We won 49 games last season with a less talent than we have now.

That sounds great when you say it like that, but Im not convinced we have a 60 win team.

Im not a homer.

This team still has major questions. Can Deron Williams play like a superstar for a FULL SEASON? Can Kidd coach effectively? Can Lopez take the next step?

All these things need to happen for us to be a 60 win team.

This team won 49 games only because of December. 3-13 in December was the only major setback. Out of those 13 losses, 6 of those games were close losses. Without Deron at full strength or Lopez. Wallace, Watson, Hump, Marshon, Bogans all combined for 30.4 points per game all season long. If you throw in Blatche, that's 49 points per game from the role players.

This season, Deron will come into camp with healthy ankles unlike entering camp with injured ankles from Team USA. Our last set of role players combined for 30.4 points, our new set with Pierce, Garnett, Terry, Kirilenko, Livingston combine for 62.5 points per game. If you throw in Blatche, that's 72.8 points combined surrounding Deron, Brook, Joe.

That alone should be enough to finish with more than 6 wins extra wins than last season.

[Hello Brooklyn]

This team won 49 games only because of December. 3-13 in December was the only major setback. Out of those 13 losses, 6 of those games were close losses. Without Deron at full strength or Lopez. Wallace, Watson, Hump, Marshon, Bogans all combined for 30.4 points per game all season long. If you throw in Blatche, that's 49 points per game from the role players.

This season, Deron will come into camp with healthy ankles unlike entering camp with injured ankles from Team USA. Our last set of role players combined for 30.4 points, our new set with Pierce, Garnett, Terry, Kirilenko, Livingston combine for 62.5 points per game. If you throw in Blatche, that's 72.8 points combined surrounding Deron, Brook, Joe.

That alone should be enough to finish with more than 6 wins extra wins than last season.

Its not a matter of "oh we won 49 games last year, and now we can win 10 more because KG and PP add 10 wins."

IMO, its a stupid way of looking at it.

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between winning 49 games and 60 games. How many teams won 60 games last year?

Only 2?

Am I ready to say the Nets are going to be a top 2 team in the NBA. No. Arguably top 5.

Remember a lot of those losses came against good teams. Like the Spurs and the Heat. Teams we simply could not beat.

Lets calm down before we act like 60 is a realistic number. KG and Pierce add something special to this team. But they do not automatically vault us into 60 win status.

You guys are beginning to sound like Knick fans.

50-55 wins is a safe prediction.

[Paradise]

This team won 49 games only because of December. 3-13 in December was the only major setback. Out of those 13 losses, 6 of those games were close losses. Without Deron at full strength or Lopez. Wallace, Watson, Hump, Marshon, Bogans all combined for 30.4 points per game all season long. If you throw in Blatche, that's 49 points per game from the role players.

This season, Deron will come into camp with healthy ankles unlike entering camp with injured ankles from Team USA. Our last set of role players combined for 30.4 points, our new set with Pierce, Garnett, Terry, Kirilenko, Livingston combine for 62.5 points per game. If you throw in Blatche, that's 72.8 points combined surrounding Deron, Brook, Joe.

That alone should be enough to finish with more than 6 wins extra wins than last season.

Its not a matter of "oh we won 49 games last year, and now we can win 10 more because KG and PP add 10 wins."

IMO, its a stupid way of looking at it.

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between winning 49 games and 60 games. How many teams won 60 games last year?

Only 2?

Am I ready to say the Nets are going to be a top 2 team in the NBA. No. Arguably top 5.

Remember a lot of those losses came against good teams. Like the Spurs and the Heat. Teams we simply could not beat.

Lets calm down before we act like 60 is a realistic number. KG and Pierce add something special to this team. But they do not automatically vault us into 60 win status.

You guys are beginning to sound like Knick fans.

50-55 wins is a safe prediction.

Exactly and there is only TEN good teams this year. There is a large disparity between good and bad this year which is why It's realistic to see alot more teams approach 60 wins.

They should be avoiding the 4th seed. You probably won't do that with 50 wins (which is beyond disappointing IMO), so the goal should be 55-60.

Nobody said, 72 which would be a Knick fan response...There is no way a HEALTHY roster in a much watered down East should not get to 60 wins or a 58 with only 10 contenders in the NBA.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Exactly and there is only TEN good teams this year. There is a large disparity between good and bad this year which is why It's realistic to see alot more teams approach 60 wins.

They should be avoiding the 4th seed. You probably won't do that with 50 wins (which is beyond disappointing IMO), so the goal should be 55-60.

Nobody said, 72 which would be a Knick fan response...There is no way a HEALTHY roster in a much watered down East should not get to 60 wins or a 58 with only 10 contenders in the NBA.

55 wins (which is what Im projecting) would have gotten use the second seed last year.

It doesn't matter if there are 10 good teams. You are not going to have more than 2 teams winning 60+ games this season. I do NOT see us being one them. We are not a top 2 or 3 team in the NBA, in any respect.

[Paradise]

Exactly and there is only TEN good teams this year. There is a large disparity between good and bad this year which is why It's realistic to see alot more teams approach 60 wins.

They should be avoiding the 4th seed. You probably won't do that with 50 wins (which is beyond disappointing IMO), so the goal should be 55-60.

Nobody said, 72 which would be a Knick fan response...There is no way a HEALTHY roster in a much watered down East should not get to 60 wins or a 58 with only 10 contenders in the NBA.

55 wins (which is what Im projecting) would have gotten use the second seed last year.

It doesn't matter if there are 10 good teams. You are not going to have more than 2 teams winning 60+ games this season. I do NOT see us being one them. We are not a top 2 or 3 team in the NBA, in any respect.

Fair enough.

As long as it's Top 3, that's all that matters. People underrate seeding when it comes to winning a championship and the fact of the matter is, there is no way you will get a shot at it if you are stuck in the 4th or 5th seed knowing you will see Miami in the second round rather than ECF.

[PetroNet]

This team won 49 games only because of December. 3-13 in December was the only major setback. Out of those 13 losses, 6 of those games were close losses. Without Deron at full strength or Lopez. Wallace, Watson, Hump, Marshon, Bogans all combined for 30.4 points per game all season long. If you throw in Blatche, that's 49 points per game from the role players.

This season, Deron will come into camp with healthy ankles unlike entering camp with injured ankles from Team USA. Our last set of role players combined for 30.4 points, our new set with Pierce, Garnett, Terry, Kirilenko, Livingston combine for 62.5 points per game. If you throw in Blatche, that's 72.8 points combined surrounding Deron, Brook, Joe.

That alone should be enough to finish with more than 6 wins extra wins than last season.

Its not a matter of "oh we won 49 games last year, and now we can win 10 more because KG and PP add 10 wins."

IMO, its a stupid way of looking at it.

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between winning 49 games and 60 games. How many teams won 60 games last year?

Only 2?

Am I ready to say the Nets are going to be a top 2 team in the NBA. No. Arguably top 5.

Remember a lot of those losses came against good teams. Like the Spurs and the Heat. Teams we simply could not beat.

Lets calm down before we act like 60 is a realistic number. KG and Pierce add something special to this team. But they do not automatically vault us into 60 win status.

You guys are beginning to sound like Knick fans.

50-55 wins is a safe prediction.

us winning 49 games is alot more relevant then how many teams won 60 last year. there were only 2 great teams last year. maybe this year there will be 4. i know this, we are better then last year. as far as our losses go, we blew a TON of games to HORRIBLE teams.

we blew a 22 point lead at home to the wolves. we got smacked by washington and philly. we lost to toronto with a chance to take the 3 seed late in the year with them having nothing to play for. we had some really bad losses. Also, now we can compete with good teams. its not just rolling over and playing dead for teams like memphis. we cant beat those teams now.

we could sleep walk to 53 wins. 55 is a LOCK even with massive catastrophic injuries

[PetroNet]

Exactly and there is only TEN good teams this year. There is a large disparity between good and bad this year which is why It's realistic to see alot more teams approach 60 wins.

They should be avoiding the 4th seed. You probably won't do that with 50 wins (which is beyond disappointing IMO), so the goal should be 55-60.

Nobody said, 72 which would be a Knick fan response...There is no way a HEALTHY roster in a much watered down East should not get to 60 wins or a 58 with only 10 contenders in the NBA.

55 wins (which is what Im projecting) would have gotten use the second seed last year.

It doesn't matter if there are 10 good teams. You are not going to have more than 2 teams winning 60+ games this season. I do NOT see us being one them. We are not a top 2 or 3 team in the NBA, in any respect.

there are going to be more then 2 60 win teams. too many horrible teams for that not to occur