JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract

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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#61 » by dorkestra » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:47 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
dorkestra wrote:the fact that he distrusts someone so deeply that he slept with some regularity is what makes him dumb. the fact he paid a lawyer to write up this clearly unenforceable contract reinforces that theory. the fact that he has such a callous stance towards aborting his own child makes him a scumbag.



This happened after his rookie year. He was a young guy who is famous with money that wanted to bang a hot chick without having this girl use him for money. Some of these woman that target players are manipulative and will do whatever to score cash, and she has a history of this with other players. We don't even know the whole story, she may not have been pregnant to begin with, wouldn't be the first woman to make such a claim.


Sorry I didn't understand why you were arguing so persistently for this guy until I saw your signature ;)

I take your point though on trusting hearsay.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#62 » by Sixersftw » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:53 pm

Nolan wrote:First off she signed it and agreed to it. Second how is it legal for girls like this to go around and try and get knocked by rich athletes so they can live off the child support. Its a cold hearted thing to do but in the end he's looking out for himself and not falling into the trap that so many other athletes do.


This contract would be unenforceable as a matter of public policy. Hell, I'm not even really sure he is giving up any consideration. That lawyer should be flogged by his state bar.

But I understand JJ, like the effort.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#63 » by Winsome Gerbil » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:02 pm

junot111 wrote:thats how you handle a gold digger like a boss


yep. She got him with the normal pregnancy routine, which he does not appear to have entirely believed, and he bought her off for $25k or a year's worth of flowers and candy.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#64 » by BubbaTee » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:03 pm

Sixersftw wrote:This contract would be unenforceable as a matter of public policy. Hell, I'm not even really sure he is giving up any consideration. That lawyer should be flogged by his state bar.


According to this article, abortion contracts are not automatically against public policy, and their validity often hinges on whether the woman was coerced into getting the abortion.

http://whdlaw.com/publications/Dodd_Wis ... w_5-12.pdf

However, it's also noted that most cases rarely get above the trial level (if they're brought at all), so there's not much in the way of precedent.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#65 » by Heatcheck » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:17 pm

boobie-for-3 wrote:Disgusting...All I can say really.

And people think American society is "advanced" and modern while other non-western societies are barbaric and backwards.


Your opinion is digusting, I'm not even pro-American/western culture at all, how is this barbaric and backwards? It's rational and progressive if anything.
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Post#66 » by bigbadstevenson » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:22 pm

dorkestra wrote:the fact that he distrusts someone so deeply that he slept with some regularity is what makes him dumb. the fact he paid a lawyer to write up this clearly unenforceable contract reinforces that theory. the fact that he has such a callous stance towards aborting his own child makes him a scumbag.


I may have read the contract wrong, but it seems possible that she sprung the news on him and then they came to this arrangement. Maybe she was telling him she was on the pill or something.

If it's unenforceable, I think he's better off. This would mean that he wouldn't have to pay her any money or continue seeing her even if she got the abortion.

A "callous stance" isn't inappropriate. What kind of person would bring a child into this world willingly and with a clear conscience? None that have thoughtfully considered the nature of conscious experience.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#67 » by boobie-for-3 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:27 pm

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boobie-for-3 wrote:Disgusting...All I can say really.

And people think American society is "advanced" and modern while other non-western societies are barbaric and backwards.


Your opinion is digusting, I'm not even pro-American/western culture at all, how is this barbaric and backwards? It's rational and progressive if anything.


Yeah...Having your GF sign a contract that forces her to get an abortion. That´s really rational...Much more rational than just choosing a trustworthy woman or **** hookers. It´s so weird to even think about that. Why would I enter a relationship with a person that I obviously hate/distrust? If you think this is a normal thing to do then I really dont know what to say. It´s just as moronic as young athletes getting married
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#68 » by meatwad4343 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:32 pm

boobie-for-3 wrote:
Heatcheck wrote:
boobie-for-3 wrote:Disgusting...All I can say really.

And people think American society is "advanced" and modern while other non-western societies are barbaric and backwards.


Your opinion is digusting, I'm not even pro-American/western culture at all, how is this barbaric and backwards? It's rational and progressive if anything.


Yeah...Having your GF sign a contract that forces her to get an abortion. That´s really rational...Much more rational than just choosing a trustworthy woman or **** hookers. It´s so weird to even think about that. Why would I enter a relationship with a person that I obviously hate/distrust? If you think this is a normal thing to do then I really dont know what to say. It´s just as moronic as young athletes getting married


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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#69 » by Sixersftw » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:34 pm

BubbaTee wrote:
According to this article, abortion contracts are not automatically against public policy, and their validity often hinges on whether the woman was coerced into getting the abortion.

http://whdlaw.com/publications/Dodd_Wis ... w_5-12.pdf

However, it's also noted that most cases rarely get above the trial level (if they're brought at all), so there's not much in the way of precedent.


It isn't automatic in every jurisdiction but if you live in the right state its a mighty high bar to overcome. I just immediately thought of the states interest in Physical or bodily interest from In re: Baby M. Truth be told i'm not even sure this is an enforceable contract because you can argue that J.J. isn't giving up any real consideration. Law geeking on the the main page!
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#70 » by dorkestra » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:01 pm

bigbadstevenson wrote:
dorkestra wrote:the fact that he distrusts someone so deeply that he slept with some regularity is what makes him dumb. the fact he paid a lawyer to write up this clearly unenforceable contract reinforces that theory. the fact that he has such a callous stance towards aborting his own child makes him a scumbag.



A "callous stance" isn't inappropriate. What kind of person would bring a child into this world willingly and with a clear conscience? None that have thoughtfully considered the nature of conscious experience.


He "decided" to take that risk when he came inside of her. There is a responsible way to avoid pregnancy with someone with whom you don't want to have a child. Avoid sleeping with them OR use multiple methods of birth control. It's not like he didn't have access to sex education. This is an over-privileged brat trying to avoid responsibility for a human life he created because he wanted to get his bird wet. It's been proven that a fetus has the ability to feel pain from at the LATEST four months into pregnancy. This isn't a victimless crime.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#71 » by ndnow » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:02 pm

Smartest man in professional sports right there.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#72 » by Heat fan06 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:21 pm

BlueJayReyes wrote:Dwight should have consulted with JJ's lawyers when he was a rookie.


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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#73 » by fishnc » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:31 pm

boobie-for-3 wrote:
Bskey wrote:So that begs the question as to why you feel the need to call out an entire country for one stupid act, especially when no one was saying a damn thing about America being superior?


Because I have never heard about such a thing outside the US? Sorry but I live in a liberal European country but a contract that forces your gf to abort a baby in case she is pregnant is disgusting. American society is going downhill fast and with it the entire western world. And that´s the way it should be.

How low can a human being be to sign such a contract? And that goes both for Reddick and that gold digger. Just pure human trash


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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#74 » by sidestep » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:36 pm

dorkestra wrote:the fact that he distrusts someone so deeply that he slept with some regularity is what makes him dumb. the fact he paid a lawyer to write up this clearly unenforceable contract reinforces that theory.

I don't really have anything against the contract (after all, both parties agreed to it), but dorkestra nailed it. You should not be in a relationship in which you feel you the need to have a legal agreement like that. No trust, no relationship.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#75 » by boobie-for-3 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:45 pm

meatwad4343 wrote:
boobie-for-3 wrote:
Heatcheck wrote:
Your opinion is digusting, I'm not even pro-American/western culture at all, how is this barbaric and backwards? It's rational and progressive if anything.


Yeah...Having your GF sign a contract that forces her to get an abortion. That´s really rational...Much more rational than just choosing a trustworthy woman or **** hookers. It´s so weird to even think about that. Why would I enter a relationship with a person that I obviously hate/distrust? If you think this is a normal thing to do then I really dont know what to say. It´s just as moronic as young athletes getting married


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And JJ Reddick has no other options than a average looking gold digger?
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#76 » by boobie-for-3 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:48 pm

The most crazy thing about all of this...This gold digger is not even good looking.

Why would Reddick do this? He could find better looking women who are at least somewhat decent and not obvious gold diggers. Why all the hassle? Just to be able to have sex with this woman? I dont get it...
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#77 » by ceremony816 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:49 pm

boobie-for-3 wrote:
meatwad4343 wrote:
boobie-for-3 wrote:
Yeah...Having your GF sign a contract that forces her to get an abortion. That´s really rational...Much more rational than just choosing a trustworthy woman or **** hookers. It´s so weird to even think about that. Why would I enter a relationship with a person that I obviously hate/distrust? If you think this is a normal thing to do then I really dont know what to say. It´s just as moronic as young athletes getting married


because some time a man's just gotta nut


And JJ Reddick has no other options than a average looking gold digger?


We get it man, you're pro-life and anti-Western society. Why do you care so much about these people you don't even know?
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#78 » by Concept Coop » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:49 pm

Narc wrote:JJ has upheld an image of being a devoutly religious player for years.

Now he's signing contracts with women agreeing to kill the fetuses they produce together.

Sounds about right.


Every christian has to pick and choose what parts of the text to follow. Otherwise they'd be in prison for stoning people, etc.

You cna be religious and not think that abortion is a sin.
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#79 » by boobie-for-3 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:52 pm

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We get it man, you're pro-life and anti-Western society. Why do you care so much about these people you don't even know?


Because it makes me angry to see that such insanity seems to be accepted in American society. Not just abortion...But making a contract that forces somebody to get an abortion. Reddick and that gold digger should be fined for even signing that contract.

Here is the thing: You cant even smoke some weed legally (in most areas of the US) but you can make contracts that force other people to kill their unborn child. What kind of sense does that make?
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Re: JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract 

Post#80 » by GoldenGoose » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:55 pm

boobie-for-3 wrote:
ceremony816 wrote:
We get it man, you're pro-life and anti-Western society. Why do you care so much about these people you don't even know?


Because it makes me angry to see that such insanity seems to be accepted in American society. Not just abortion...But making a contract that forces somebody to get an abortion. Reddick and that gold digger should be fined for even signing that contract.

Here is the thing: You cant even smoke some weed legally (in most areas of the US) but you can make contracts that force other people to kill their unborn child. What kind of sense does that make?

Here's a thought. Why don't you enlighten us and tell us all exactly where you're from. That way we can nitpick individual incidents and make sweeping generalizations about your entire country and culture. Fly away troll.

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