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Re: 2013 Summer League Standouts ?? 

Post#41 » by hands11 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:32 am

pancakes3 wrote:Chris Singleton, 0-5 from 3, 20-22 from the FT line. What to make of it!?!?!


He isn't that good shooting from farther then 10 ft with players covering him :dontknow:

Sam was getting on him in Summer League about leaning to much when he shoots. They were trying to get him to go straight up.
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Post#42 » by pancakes3 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:17 pm

I was more referring to the question raised of if he's a good shooter or not, not whether or not 3 pointers are farther out than free throws.
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Post#43 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:56 pm

closg00 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1713344-winners-and-losers-from-2013-nba-summer-league


Porter will be fine.
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Post#44 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:05 pm

Hopefully the new guy from OKC can positively affect the development of young Wizards players such as Chris Singleton.
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Re: 2013 Summer League Standouts ?? 

Post#45 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:06 pm

closg00 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Who knew Ian Clark would be a supastar?

<standing back as 5 posters rush to say they called it>

I have no idea who he is - other than he scored 33 points in the HUGE Summer League Champyunship Game.


Undrafted and has no contract...yet. You can always pick-up undrafted SG's and PG's, sometimes good ones. These guys often go to Europe, the NBDL, then end-up on a SL team. Ujiri got a nice nab.


Ujiri of the Raptors?
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Post#46 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:44 pm

Ruzious wrote:Who knew Ian Clark would be a supastar?

<standing back as 5 posters rush to say they called it>

I have no idea who he is - other than he scored 33 points in the HUGE Summer League Champyunship Game.



Most would categorize a Lebron James or Kevin Durant as a "supastar", don't think anyone would place Ian Clark in that group, certainly not this early.

You shouldn't try to minimize what he accomplished in SL simply because you aren't or weren't aware of him. 21 of those 33 points came off of three pointers. He shot 48% from 3 in Las Vegas while averaging 12.4 and 16.4 shooting 43% from 3 in five games playing for Miami...better than what Glen Rice Jr. produced.
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Re: 2013 Summer League Standouts ?? 

Post#47 » by Ruzious » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:34 pm

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Who knew Ian Clark would be a supastar?

<standing back as 5 posters rush to say they called it>

I have no idea who he is - other than he scored 33 points in the HUGE Summer League Champyunship Game.



Most would categorize a Lebron James or Kevin Durant as a "supastar", don't think anyone would place Ian Clark in that group, certainly not this early.

You shouldn't try to minimize what he accomplished in SL simply because you aren't or weren't aware of him. 21 of those 33 points came off of three pointers. He shot 48% from 3 in Las Vegas while averaging 12.4 and 16.4 shooting 43% from 3 in five games playing for Miami...better than what Glen Rice Jr. produced.

So, I was simultaneously overstating and understating his accomplishments? That must mean I'm pretty talented. Thank you.
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Post#48 » by Dat2U » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:55 pm

To me this thread ends and begins with the Olynyk Clinic.

I'm no longer hearing the Olynyk vs. Muscala comparisons anymore.
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Post#49 » by Ruzious » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:19 pm

Dat2U wrote:To me this thread ends and begins with the Olynyk Clinic.

I'm no longer hearing the Olynyk vs. Muscala comparisons anymore.

Uh, I believe that's spelt Olynyk Clynyk. :roll:
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Post#51 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:41 pm

closg00 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Who knew Ian Clark would be a supastar?

<standing back as 5 posters rush to say they called it>

I have no idea who he is - other than he scored 33 points in the HUGE Summer League Champyunship Game.


Undrafted and has no contract...yet. You can always pick-up undrafted SG's and PG's, sometimes good ones. These guys often go to Europe, the NBDL, then end-up on a SL team. Ujiri got a nice nab.


2 year contract signed with the Jazz. Congrats to Ian Clark.
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Post#53 » by montestewart » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:16 am

Dat2U wrote:To me this thread ends and begins with the Olynyk Clinic.

I'm no longer hearing the Olynyk vs. Muscala comparisons anymore.

Did Muscala even play Summer League? He a bust already?
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Post#54 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:47 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Dat2U wrote:To me this thread ends and begins with the Olynyk Clinic.

I'm no longer hearing the Olynyk vs. Muscala comparisons anymore.

Uh, I believe that's spelt Olynyk Clynyk. :roll:


Kelly Olynyk has a mind for the game that is probably in the 99th percentile.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/ ... story.html

Every day, for the better part of a half-hour, Travis Knight, Gonzaga’s strength and conditioning coach, would from close range toss Olynyk tennis balls bearing a number or letter that represented a complicated movement, maybe a stepback jumper from the left side, or a shot-fake, dribble, then shot from the right. Or something else.

We had to get to a point where he didn’t have to think about all these movements,” said Knight, a former infielder for the Gonzaga baseball team who believes strongly in hand-eye coordination.

The drill, Knight said, helped train Olynyk’s brain to function more on a subconscious level.

“It helped me, furthermore, to be able to read plays and slow the game down,” Olynyk said. “And when I came in, I could see plays happening, see plays developing, and really slow down and take a step back and really be integrated into the play rather than having everything be a whirlwind.”

But it wasn’t a drill you’d be likely to find anywhere else.

“He was like the Frankenstein monster, and I was like the mad scientist, and we were just experimenting,” Knight said.


Before the draft what made me really want him the most for the Wizards was his mental approach to the game. I think he's a coach on the floor, already. Olynyk would have helped Vesely, I think, because he's mature and confident and he's a great teammate. I believe he literally has a genius IQ. His decision making skills are terrific. His trainer's approach, and his buy in effort, are the stuff basketball genius is made of.

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration.

Thomas A. Edison


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In retrospect, Olynyk should have gone much higher than 13th. I'm confident summer league was no fluke. Olynyk is going to adapt to the rigors of the NBA game, and I believe he'll add core strength necessary to enable him to dominate offensively and to hold his own defensively. He's got abundant mental energy.
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Post#55 » by Dat2U » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:58 pm

Yeah, Olynyk's offseason work with Travis Knight was one of the biggest reasons I liked him so much. You don't see too many college players work on their game to the extent he did. That really impressed me and it's why he was one of my favorites throughout the draft process. I've seen draft prospects train at the level but that's only after they've finished their college career (a la Blake Griffin) and are preparing to workout for teams.

I can't wait to see what Olynyk does during the regular season. I suspect he'll continue to surprise a lot of people.

That said, I still think Porter will be very good in time and still prefer him to Olynyk but a trade down scenario for Olynyk in hindsight wouldn't have been a terrible move either.
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Post#56 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:58 pm

I've said it before, but I'll repeat: He has old man game.

Another analogy is with fighters. Some fighters are masterful technicians. They understand pace, breathing, defense, economy of motion, and they seize opportunity whenever an opponent lets his guard down. Very few have the total package with physical skills to match. Many, however, fight well despite lacking the greatest physical tools. The hardest puncher or kicker doesn't always win. The smarter fighter usually does. The guy with the fewest holes in his fight game, and who is the better generalist wins -- if he's skilled/smart enough to be dangerous in more than one discipline and a survivor.

Before the draft, all the intangibles led me to believe Olynyk is going to be a very special basketball player. Many people seem to understand physical skills like height, reach, foot speed, jumping ability, etc. A lot of stat geeks love PER and offensive and defensive rating. Few scouts IMO, however, fully appreciate the kind of adaptive intelligence a player like Olynyk has. He's like a skilled fighter, a marathon runner, a basketball coach, a future Wall Street executive, and a humanitarian all rolled into one.

No way he should have gone so low in the draft. I knew this guy would be special.
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Post#57 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:03 pm

Dat2U wrote:Yeah, Olynyk's offseason work with Travis Knight was one of the biggest reasons I liked him so much. You don't see too many college players work on their game to the extent he did. That really impressed me and it's why he was one of my favorites throughout the draft process. I've seen draft prospects train at the level but that's only after they've finished their college career (a la Blake Griffin) and are preparing to workout for teams.

I can't wait to see what Olynyk does during the regular season. I suspect he'll continue to surprise a lot of people.

That said, I still think Porter will be very good in time and still prefer him to Olynyk but a trade down scenario for Olynyk in hindsight wouldn't have been a terrible move either.


I'm not worried about Otto, either.

He just needs to get elite core strength. He needs to add about 10 pounds of lean muscle mass. Once he gets a more solid base and some added width and definition to his upper body, he will become a fine pro.

That said, I would still prefer Olynyk, because he is a stretch four and that is what the Wizards need. I'm not sure Otto breaks through with this team any time soon.

We'll see.
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Re: 2013 Summer League Standouts ?? 

Post#58 » by closg00 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:37 pm

Oh-oh, Olynyk has Plantar fascitis.

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