JJ Redick and his Ex GF had an abortion contract

[boobie-for-3]

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Here's a thought. Why don't you enlighten us and tell us all exactly where you're from. That way we can nitpick individual incidents and make sweeping generalizations about your entire country and culture. Fly away troll.

I said it before western Europe..We have the same laws. Weed is illegal, Abortion is legal.

I am not a troll...just voicing my opinion about stupid laws and morals. Is this forbidden in the US?

[Winsome Gerbil]

the fact that he distrusts someone so deeply that he slept with some regularity is what makes him dumb. the fact he paid a lawyer to write up this clearly unenforceable contract reinforces that theory.

I don't really have anything against the contract (after all, both parties agreed to it), but dorkestra hit it on the money. You should not be in a relationship in which you feel you the need to have a legal agreement like that. No trust, no relationship.

But we don't know what sort of relationship they had. Assuming this was classic gold digger it could easily go like, step 1) throw yourself in his path, Step 2) tell him don't worry about a condom, or even lie and say you've got it covered with birth control, Step 3) a month into your messing around relationship suddenly announce you missed your period..uh oh.

At that point what would he know about her or even the pregnancy?

And people pointing to callousness might want to point to the lady involved. Give me 25k or a year's worth of gifts and I'll abort. Not that this was a mistake and I/we aren't ready. No, its gimme the money. The baby mama scam without having to tie yourself down raising a kid. And you know the great thing about that? No way for him to ever even know if it was his.

[Showtime:Part2]

We get it man, you're pro-life and anti-Western society. Why do you care so much about these people you don't even know?

Because it makes me angry to see that such insanity seems to be accepted in American society. Not just abortion...But making a contract that forces somebody to get an abortion. Reddick and that gold digger should be fined for even signing that contract.

Here is the thing: You cant even smoke some weed legally (in most areas of the US) but you can make contracts that force other people to kill their unborn child. What kind of sense does that make?

he's not forcing her to have the abortion. it specifically says that if she chooses to keep the baby (hence giving her the option) he will not be obligated to remain in a relationship with her. besides, even if it did force her, her fault for signing it. takes two to tango

[ManualRam]

We get it man, you're pro-life and anti-Western society. Why do you care so much about these people you don't even know?

Because it makes me angry to see that such insanity seems to be accepted in American society. Not just abortion...But making a contract that forces somebody to get an abortion. Reddick and that gold digger should be fined for even signing that contract.

Here is the thing: You cant even smoke some weed legally (in most areas of the US) but you can make contracts that force other people to kill their unborn child. What kind of sense does that make?

read the contract again. nobody was forced to get an abortion. it was more of a POST-abortion agreement. it was already agreed upon to have an abortion.

[Concept Coop]

Here is the thing: You cant even smoke some weed legally (in most areas of the US) but you can make contracts that force other people to kill their unborn child. What kind of sense does that make?

She is not forced to kill anything. She doesn't have to have the abortion (which isn't killing; it is preventing).

[TheProfessor]

I swear bringing your own condoms is cheaper...

[Sgt P]

I think it was an ideal approach to a grey area situation. He likes her for something, she likes him for something else. Lets scartch each others back ( no pun intended ). I do not see what the big deal is, they are both grown and and are trying to approach that subject maturely

You do you boo boo, you do you.

Now my personal opinion: I am not say that I agree or disagree. I do however understand.

[NapoleonII]

A "man" who forces the woman he's having sexual relations with makes her sign an agreement to kill her unborn child, and this board is calling him "boss" and this way of life "progressive"?

Absolutely disgusting.


A "boss" would take responsibility for his actions and control himself, actually care for the woman he's screwing, and protect an innocent life.

[Shem]

Disgusting...All I can say really.

And people think American society is "advanced" and modern while other non-western societies are barbaric and backwards.

Your opinion is digusting, I'm not even pro-American/western culture at all, how is this barbaric and backwards? It's rational and progressive if anything.

Yeah...Having your GF sign a contract that forces her to get an abortion. That´s really rational...Much more rational than just choosing a trustworthy woman or **** hookers. It´s so weird to even think about that. Why would I enter a relationship with a person that I obviously hate/distrust? If you think this is a normal thing to do then I really dont know what to say. It´s just as moronic as young athletes getting married

It's not even about that. You decided because of the actions of one person that you would stereotype all 300+ million Americans as being the same sort of person as it is obvious you have an agenda against Americans. You hate our country or you wouldn't have even said such a thing.

But remember this as you hate us and our society, please enjoy the electricity you use, the car you drive, the phone you use, the computer you type on, and the internet you use to bash Americans because guess what? All those things were invented by Americans as you owe a lot of gratitude to your life style to "barbaric" Americans as you called us.

[GoldenGoose]

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Here's a thought. Why don't you enlighten us and tell us all exactly where you're from. That way we can nitpick individual incidents and make sweeping generalizations about your entire country and culture. Fly away troll.

I said it before western Europe..We have the same laws. Weed is illegal, Abortion is legal.

I am not a troll...just voicing my opinion about stupid laws and morals. Is this forbidden in the US?

No it isn't, but you're living in ignorance if you don't believe that every society has its fair share of problems. Your holier than thou attitude is a joke.

[tiderulz]

A "man" who forces the woman he's having sexual relations with makes her sign an agreement to kill her unborn child, and this board is calling him "boss" and this way of life "progressive"?

Absolutely disgusting.


A "boss" would take responsibility for his actions and control himself, actually care for the woman he's screwing, and protect an innocent life.

i dont call him boss. But how is he protected from her changing their relationship and trying to get pregnant even though she may tell him she isnt and is on the pill. she can change the entire situation without his knowledge, and then he has to take responsibility for something that he didnt want to deal with yet.

[Slartibartfast]

JJ's Christianity was front and center in his senior season at Duke. Covered pretty extensively in this ESPN article from 2006: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2339265

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But remember this as you hate us and our society, please enjoy the electricity you use, the car you drive, the phone you use, the computer you type on, and the internet you use to bash Americans because guess what? All those things were invented by Americans as you owe a lot of gratitude to your life style to "barbaric" Americans as you called us.

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Would you have computers without the mathematics developed by the Middle East? Are you eternally grateful to Arabic countries for bringing Europe out of the dark ages? Or the Chinese for the countless things they have invented? More to the point, technology, which can be used in all types of ways, has nothing to do with cultural values and priorities.

[Shem]

But remember this as you hate us and our society, please enjoy the electricity you use, the car you drive, the phone you use, the computer you type on, and the internet you use to bash Americans because guess what? All those things were invented by Americans as you owe a lot of gratitude to your life style to "barbaric" Americans as you called us.

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Would you have computers without the mathematics developed by the Middle East? Are you eternally grateful to Arabic countries for bringing Europe out of the dark ages? Or the Chinese for the countless things they have invented? More to the point, technology, which can be used in all types of ways, has nothing to do with cultural values and priorities.

This was never about me slamming on other cultures. What you just did is try to take away what Americans have done in terms of inventing the technologies the whole world has taken for granted. You're obviously not American and probably hate us as well so I get it that you don't want to give credit where credit is due which is why you called it the "dumbest thing you ever heard" and this thread just had boobie-for-3 call "ALL" Americans barbaric for the actions of one person.

[dorkestra]

All Americans are not barbaric. But what JJ Redick is alleged to have agreed - that is barbaric. No need for generalizations.

[ManualRam]

A "man" who forces the woman he's having sexual relations with makes her sign an agreement to kill her unborn child

yeah that sounds disgusting. good thing that isnt what happened.

[NapoleonII]

But remember this as you hate us and our society, please enjoy the electricity you use, the car you drive, the phone you use, the computer you type on, and the internet you use to bash Americans because guess what? All those things were invented by Americans as you owe a lot of gratitude to your life style to "barbaric" Americans as you called us.

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Would you have computers without the mathematics developed by the Middle East? Are you eternally grateful to Arabic countries for bringing Europe out of the dark ages? Or the Chinese for the countless things they have invented? More to the point, technology, which can be used in all types of ways, has nothing to do with cultural values and priorities.

This was never about me slamming on other cultures. What you just did is try to take away what Americans have done in terms of inventing the technologies the whole world has taken for granted. You're obviously not American and probably hate us as well so I get it that you don't want to give credit where credit is due which is why you called it the "dumbest thing you ever heard" and this thread just had boobie-for-3 call "ALL" Americans barbaric for the actions of one person.

American "culture" didn't create those technologies. Industry, capitalism, and very driven/capable individuals did.


Here's some true American "culture" you can pat yourself on the back for.


-221 children killed (in 2012 alone) in Pakistan, Yeman, Somalia from drone strikes. Not terrorists. Children.

-56 million aborted in the US since Roe vs Wade

-2.3 Million incarcerated in the US is 5% of the World population and has 25% of world prisoners.

-5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites



These are just figures it took me 2 minutes to look up, and these are just the current ills - you should read something called the People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.

[DWiz]

What would be a pre-meditated murder of a helpless kid(fetus) who didn't ask to be conceived

[dorkestra]

Can I please propose that we put an end to the US vs. the world stuff? Please?

[KennyDuwayne]

American "culture" didn't create those technologies. Industry, capitalism, and very driven/capable individuals did.


Here's some true American "culture" you can pat yourself on the back for.


-221 children killed (in 2012 alone) in Pakistan, Yeman, Somalia from drone strikes. Not terrorists. Children.

-56 million aborted in the US since Roe vs Wade

-2.3 Million incarcerated in the US is 5% of the World population and has 25% of world prisoners.

-5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites



These are just figures it took me 2 minutes to look up, and these are just the current ills - you should read something called the People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.

That's odd, I dont see "Woman beheaded in the street for carrying an affair" or even "Woman stoned to death for baring her midriff," which are frequent occurrences in other non-western countries that aren't barbaric and have innocent children slaughtered by US Drones (on a related note, please do me a favor and search up how many children in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia are killed by car bombs targeting civilians on a daily basis. I assure you it's more than 221 in a year).