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The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

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What should the Bucks do with Jennings?

Offer him the QO
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Offer him a long-term deal
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Let him walk
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1521 » by EastSideBucksFan » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:30 pm

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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1522 » by tranjSAIC » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:52 pm

Would a trade with the Magic work out, We give you guys Jameer who is paid 8 mil this year, but I believe his next year is a team option, you guys just give us some expiring contracts. Then you rescind the QO to Jennings.

This way you don't tank your season and have a decent PG, and you don't have to pay Jennings which I think is the best part of this deal.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1523 » by BuckFan25226 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:01 pm

They don't want to sandbag their season, but are considering signing a pg that no one wants to 8mm per year???


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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1524 » by bigkurty » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:09 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:Would a trade with the Magic work out, We give you guys Jameer who is paid 8 mil this year, but I believe his next year is a team option, you guys just give us some expiring contracts. Then you rescind the QO to Jennings.

This way you don't tank your season and have a decent PG, and you don't have to pay Jennings which I think is the best part of this deal.

Jameer is one of the few pg's out there who is actually worse than Jennings, already 31 and clearly declining very quickly. So no that won't work. Luke Ridnour would be a better starting pg than him in all honesty. You guys definitely need to get rid of him and afflalo. They are the worst players on your team now and both of them are declining hard now.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1525 » by WiscoKing13 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:25 pm

Hammond isn't that smart. Zaza and mayo were both signed to flat deals. Would of been great to do mayo at 12, 8, 4 and do the same with zaza but the thought never crossed hammomds mind.

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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1526 » by raferfenix » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:29 pm

It seems totally plausible that we will knowingly overpay Jennings for years on end to avoid 'sand bagging' one season, with that being defined as making the playoffs -- not even being a .500 team.

Watch us not make the playoffs either way. What a joke.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1527 » by tranjSAIC » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:14 pm

bigkurty wrote:
tranjSAIC wrote:Would a trade with the Magic work out, We give you guys Jameer who is paid 8 mil this year, but I believe his next year is a team option, you guys just give us some expiring contracts. Then you rescind the QO to Jennings.

This way you don't tank your season and have a decent PG, and you don't have to pay Jennings which I think is the best part of this deal.

Jameer is one of the few pg's out there who is actually worse than Jennings, already 31 and clearly declining very quickly. So no that won't work. Luke Ridnour would be a better starting pg than him in all honesty. You guys definitely need to get rid of him and afflalo. They are the worst players on your team now and both of them are declining hard now.

I wouldn't go that far, Jameer is 100xs the player Jennings is, plus he steps up his game in the playoffs. This trade is basically only for one year, you can find a PG for the future after the year.

I just thought of a deal were you don't end up having to pay that bum Jennings.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 21) 

Post#1528 » by fam3381 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:14 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:Hammond isn't that smart. Zaza and mayo were both signed to flat deals. Would of been great to do mayo at 12, 8, 4 and do the same with zaza but the thought never crossed hammomds mind.


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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1529 » by machu46 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:00 pm

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bigkurty wrote:
tranjSAIC wrote:Would a trade with the Magic work out, We give you guys Jameer who is paid 8 mil this year, but I believe his next year is a team option, you guys just give us some expiring contracts. Then you rescind the QO to Jennings.

This way you don't tank your season and have a decent PG, and you don't have to pay Jennings which I think is the best part of this deal.

Jameer is one of the few pg's out there who is actually worse than Jennings, already 31 and clearly declining very quickly. So no that won't work. Luke Ridnour would be a better starting pg than him in all honesty. You guys definitely need to get rid of him and afflalo. They are the worst players on your team now and both of them are declining hard now.

I wouldn't go that far, Jameer is 100xs the player Jennings is, plus he steps up his game in the playoffs. This trade is basically only for one year, you can find a PG for the future after the year.

I just thought of a deal were you don't end up having to pay that bum Jennings.


Everything you said about Jameer is just wrong. There's no world in which 31 year old Nelson is better than Jennings, and Nelson has sucked in the postseason more often than not. The one time his team made a serious run in the playoffs was when he didnt play.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum 

Post#1530 » by tranjSAIC » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:03 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:PG is too important a position to lock up an average to below average player long-term. Punt on PG this season, try and find a long term solution next year. They can QO or let him walk for all I care, I just don't want them committing to him long term, for any price. $7 million a year is a good deal if he's a good player, which he isn't.

Just curious what price would Bucks fans consider bringing him back at on a long term contract?
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum 

Post#1531 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:04 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:PG is too important a position to lock up an average to below average player long-term. Punt on PG this season, try and find a long term solution next year. They can QO or let him walk for all I care, I just don't want them committing to him long term, for any price. $7 million a year is a good deal if he's a good player, which he isn't.

Just curious what price would Bucks fans consider bringing him back at on a long term contract?


Well you have my answer in the post you quoted.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1532 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:08 pm

I don't want him back at all but I could be reasoned to take him back on the q/o for "trade potential" alone.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum 

Post#1533 » by EastSideBucksFan » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:08 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:PG is too important a position to lock up an average to below average player long-term. Punt on PG this season, try and find a long term solution next year. They can QO or let him walk for all I care, I just don't want them committing to him long term, for any price. $7 million a year is a good deal if he's a good player, which he isn't.

Just curious what price would Bucks fans consider bringing him back at on a long term contract?


He's probably tradeable on a 4yr/$32M deal if or once things don't work out.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1534 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:24 pm

One exit I could see is Jennings taking a 3/$21 with an opt out after year two. I'd be down with that and I think that Toronto would deal us Lowry for that contract.

But it is up to Jennings if he takes that.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1535 » by Chapter29 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:44 pm

I think it could come to that Press.

Once Jennings realizes that his perception of himself is so out of whack with GM's perceptions he then can consider other more damage control approaches.

1. Sign the best long term deal you can, lets say top end of 8M, so 40M max (I wouldn't do that, but anyways)

2. Take the QO and prove yourself and get a big payday. Or not. 4.5M

3. Prove yourself but possibly a safer financial approach signing a short term 6, 7, 8M deal with a player option. Call it your 3yr 21M. A safer approach for both sides perhaps and something that may be more palatable to other teams.

I am all for whatever either moves Jennings for something (he's not great or even really good, how much should we expect in return?) or brings him back on a reasonable deal that if he has to move to the bench we don't feel too much pain.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum 

Post#1536 » by MrPerfect1 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:07 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:Just curious what price would Bucks fans consider bringing him back at on a long term contract?


I'd be OK with Jennings at 3 years/$9 mil, maybe even 3 years/$12 mil
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1537 » by Fresh_Prince12 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:25 pm

Chapter29 wrote:I think it could come to that Press.

Once Jennings realizes that his perception of himself is so out of whack with GM's perceptions he then can consider other more damage control approaches.

1. Sign the best long term deal you can, lets say top end of 8M, so 40M max (I wouldn't do that, but anyways)

2. Take the QO and prove yourself and get a big payday. Or not. 4.5M

3. Prove yourself but possibly a safer financial approach signing a short term 6, 7, 8M deal with a player option. Call it your 3yr 21M. A safer approach for both sides perhaps and something that may be more palatable to other teams.

I am all for whatever either moves Jennings for something (he's not great or even really good, how much should we expect in return?) or brings him back on a reasonable deal that if he has to move to the bench we don't feel too much pain.



That would be the best option in my opinion. I also think that hammond has probably earned a reputation of helping players out.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1538 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:14 pm

Just a note, I do believe the player needs to sign at least a three year deal to be eligible for a sign and trade. So again the team taking Jennings would need to commit for three years. Jennings could have an opt out after year two I think.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1539 » by CanadaBucks » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:59 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Just a note, I do believe the player needs to sign at least a three year deal to be eligible for a sign and trade. So again the team taking Jennings would need to commit for three years. Jennings could have an opt out after year two I think.


Only one year has to be guaranteed as well(Bogues with Boston)
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 24) 

Post#1540 » by CJTURT » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:50 am

I wish this would all just be over with. Its so depressing.

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