What offense will Kidd run?

[Johnny Kilroy]

We all heard how Kidd wowed the Nets with his ideas and concepts for the team. And of course everyone here knows what a genius Kidd is. What will the halfcourt O look like? Do you think he will push them to run?

[PetroNet]

We all heard how Kidd wowed the Nets with his ideas and concepts for the team. And of course everyone here knows what a genius Kidd is. What will the halfcourt O look like? Do you think he will push them to run?

i dont think we will run much... it doesnt play to our strengths. we will likely play close to or at the league slowest pace again, to take pressure off our defense and force teams into a halfcourt game, were we should out execute most

[NyCeEvO]

When Kidd was hired, he said that we would look to run and advance the ball much quicker than last year.

Even after we acquired KG, PP, and Terry, he still said that while we don't have the fastest players, we can still outlet the ball to the wings to push the tempo a bit.

He really emphasized the fact that we seemed to work really hard for our baskets despite having the personnel to get many points through early offense and he doesn't see why we can't improve that especially that we now have even more talent on our squad.

[PetroNet]

When Kidd was hired, he said that we would look to run and advance the ball much quicker than last year.

Even after we acquired KG, PP, and Terry, he still said that while we don't have the fastest players, we can still outlet the ball to the wings to push the tempo a bit.

He really emphasized the fact that we seemed to work really hard for our baskets despite having the personnel to get many points through early offense and he doesn't see why we can't improve that especially that we now have even more talent on our squad.

im not really interested in what kidd says. he has smart guys on his staff that i have confidence will do whats best for this team. and playing at a slow pace the limits possesions and hides our defense is whats best for this team.

Run when its there? sure. but overall, still a snails pace

[serp]

Doubt it'll be an iso-fest again. Last season was downright unwatchable at times.

Ball movement will hopefully return.

[Boarder Patrol]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

[Nondescript]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

This team should have a great offense, what are you smoking?

[Rollydog]

The Drake Shuffle

http://cldj.tripod.com/drake.html

The scheme was invented in the 1950s by a coach in Oklahoma, to be used by teams that lack a dominant scoring threat — no Wilt Chamberlain or Shaquille O’Neal or Michael Jordan to dump the ball to and get out of the way. It has been described as a “continuous offensive system,” which means that — unlike many plays, which have a definite endpoint or morph into something else when they get too much pressure — the Drake Shuffle never stops. You could run it, theoretically, forever. All five players move in coordinated motion, taking turns with and without the ball, until they’ve exhausted an elaborate cycle of screens and cuts and passes — at which point the play doesn’t end but starts all over again, with each participant now playing a different role within the same cycle. Everyone on the floor keeps moving, probing, trading off.

[MrDollarBills]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

You clearly are either trolling, or you don't have the slightest clue as to what you're talking about.

[MrDollarBills]

Doubt it'll be an iso-fest again. Last season was downright unwatchable at times.

Ball movement will hopefully return.

I expect ball movement to be emphasized a lot. Kidd won't tolerate the ball being pounded into the floor like the last two idiot coaches.

[Boarder Patrol]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

This team should have a great offense, what are you smoking?

Defense is really what I'm concerned about. Perimeter D isn't anything special and Brook is still a huge question mark on the interior.

Offense will be too slow, but they should have a higher efficiency and FG% than most other teams. Pierce and JJ will have to be comfortable sitting around the perimeter more, but I think you'll be fine.

Why can't I voice a reasonable concern about this team without being considered trolling

[MrDollarBills]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

This team should have a great offense, what are you smoking?

Defense is really what I'm concerned about. Perimeter D isn't anything special and Brook is still a huge question mark on the interior.

Offense will be too slow, but they should have a higher efficiency and FG% than most other teams. Pierce and JJ will have to be comfortable sitting around the perimeter more, but I think you'll be fine.

Why can't I voice a reasonable concern about this team without being considered trolling

Because none of your "concerns" are based in reality, and you show very little knowledge about this team or its players.

Brook Lopez made great strides last season defensively and finally playing alongside a good PF will improve that.

At least pretend to have a clue before you post on here and try to troll this forum. I know that stupidity is embraced over on the Knicks board, but here it isn't.

[M I K E]

Would we be better off offensively starting Terry at SG ?

Deron
Terry
Pierce
Garnett
Lopez

Livingston
JJ
AK-47
Evans
Blatche

IMO JJ and Pierce might be too redundant if they are on the court together. Maybe we split them up ?

As for Knick trolls, I can't blame them since our Nets team is vastly more interesting than the current Knicks squad.

I bet we will be seeing many curious Knicks fans on Nets blogs and also watching Nets games very closely.

[Da_Kidd]

I seem to remember reading an article that basically mentions one of the things that impress management with Kidd was how he basically borrowed from one of the Spurs' set and how he would implement it given with what he had at the time.

Obviously, players have changed but for the better and if Kidd is indeed following the San Antonio model of continuous ball movement then it's a massive improvement from the iso offense from last year under Avery and PJ.

[NyCeEvO]

One of the problems we had last year is that we were a front running team.

We tied for #3 in the league in 1st qtr scoring at 26.2 points (which is even better than MIA at 25.6 points) and 4th in FG% at 49.3% (only behind MIA (50.3%), OKC (50.1%), and SAS (49.7%).

So basically we score like an elite team in the first quarter, but after the first it goes downhill. Also, I don't think it's a coincidence that Brook does most of his damage in the first quarter and we score very well in the first. However, after that we go down hill.

In the 2nd quarter, we averaged 24.1 points (20th overall) on 45.7% FG% (17th).

In the 3rd quarter, we averaged 22.7 points (27th overall) on 42.4% FG% (27th).

In the 4th quarter, we averaged 23.0 points (23rd overall) on 42.0% FG% (24th).

Instead of being the team that fights back from early deficits, we're the team that usually starts off hot and then the opposition comes back on us. Remember that nightmare MIN game we had early in the season.

With this team, we have so many offensive weapons that I don't think the starting lineup is going to matter. Our offensive scoring will not/should not fade throughout the game.

I can very well see D-Will/JJ/PP/KG/Lopez starting the game and at the 6 min mark PP and KG are subbed out while D-Will/JJ/Lopez get a few more minutes.

PP and KG would probably come back to start the 2nd quarter while D-Will, JJ, and/or Brook are subbed out and then they'll switch early-to-mid second period. KG and PP could only play 12 minutes in the first half and we'd still be able to destroy most teams (if we're playing at the level we expect to be at). The opposition will never get a chance to rest because there will always AT LEAST be two scorers on the floor between D-Will, JJ, PP, and Lopez.

The goal should be to blowout most teams by halftime (and we definitely have the firepower to do that) so that the 2nd half of the game is a cakewalk/garbage time.

[PetroNet]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

This team should have a great offense, what are you smoking?

Defense is really what I'm concerned about. Perimeter D isn't anything special and Brook is still a huge question mark on the interior.

Offense will be too slow, but they should have a higher efficiency and FG% than most other teams. Pierce and JJ will have to be comfortable sitting around the perimeter more, but I think you'll be fine.

Why can't I voice a reasonable concern about this team without being considered trolling

i dont really see johnson on the perimeter. its not his game. i think you will see him in the high and low post, where he is more accustomed. pierce i think will also operate mostly in the high post or in the corners. i love our options in the high-low post game and in the 1-2 and 2-3 pick and rolls to get a mismatch on the block. its one of the things we did really well last year with johnson

[PetroNet]

One of the problems we had last year is that we were a front running team.

We tied for #3 in the league in 1st qtr scoring at 26.2 points (which is even better than MIA at 25.6 points) and 4th in FG% at 49.3% (only behind MIA (50.3%), OKC (50.1%), and SAS (49.7%).

So basically we score like an elite team in the first quarter, but after the first it goes downhill. Also, I don't think it's a coincidence that Brook does most of his damage in the first quarter and we score very well in the first. However, after that we go down hill.

In the 2nd quarter, we averaged 24.1 points (20th overall) on 45.7% FG% (17th).

In the 3rd quarter, we averaged 22.7 points (27th overall) on 42.4% FG% (27th).

In the 4th quarter, we averaged 23.0 points (23rd overall) on 42.0% FG% (24th).

Instead of being the team that fights back from early deficits, we're the team that usually starts off hot and then the opposition comes back on us. Remember that nightmare MIN game we had early in the season.

With this team, we have so many offensive weapons that I don't think the starting lineup is going to matter. Our offensive scoring will not/should not fade throughout the game.

I can very well see D-Will/JJ/PP/KG/Lopez starting the game and at the 6 min mark PP and KG are subbed out while D-Will/JJ/Lopez get a few more minutes.

PP and KG would probably come back to start the 2nd quarter while D-Will, JJ, and/or Brook are subbed out and then they'll switch early-to-mid second period. KG and PP could only play 12 minutes in the first half and we'd still be able to destroy most teams (if we're playing at the level we expect to be at). The opposition will never get a chance to rest because there will always AT LEAST be two scorers on the floor between D-Will, JJ, PP, and Lopez.

The goal should be to blowout most teams by halftime (and we definitely have the firepower to do that) so that the 2nd half of the game is a cakewalk/garbage time.

also, we werent a team that could get stops late when we needed them, or stop the bleeding when teams went on a run against us. now we can go to a defensive lineup with Dwill/JJ/Pierce/AK/Garnett to close out a game or stop a run. its going to make an enormous difference

[jeff1624]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

We were the 8th best offensive team last year with Evans and Wallace starting for most of the year. We replaced those two non-factors with Pierce and KG.

I think The Nets will have a very good offensive/efficient team, though we will remain one of, if not the slowest team in the league.

[Boarder Patrol]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

We were the 8th best offensive team last year with Evans and Wallace starting for most of the year. We replaced those two non-factors with Pierce and KG.

I think The Nets will have a very good offensive/efficient team, though we will remain one of, if not the slowest team in the league.

Yeah, already corrected that in an above post, I believe. If not, I'll take that back now. Their pace deceived me, but once I got around to looking at the advanced stats I saw differently. Defense though? Lets hope Kidd can spread his talents to some of the Nets perimeter guys,

[PetroNet]

Run isn't the word to use for the offense the Nets will run. It's gonna be slooooooow. Hopefully this helps limit turnovers. Likely more ball movement too, but there are some issues with spacing.

That's the one thing that worries me with the Nets. For all the personnel they have, they don't look to be a very, very top tier offense or defense. What will win them games is the slow pace and the deep bench.

We were the 8th best offensive team last year with Evans and Wallace starting for most of the year. We replaced those two non-factors with Pierce and KG.

I think The Nets will have a very good offensive/efficient team, though we will remain one of, if not the slowest team in the league.

Yeah, already corrected that in an above post, I believe. If not, I'll take that back now. Their pace deceived me, but once I got around to looking at the advanced stats I saw differently. Defense though? Lets hope Kidd can spread his talents to some of the Nets perimeter guys,

what the nets did defensively last year is irrelevant, as the replace their worst(evans) and 2nd worst(wallace) defenders with Garnett (statistically a top 3 defender last season) and pierce(while not great, significantly better then wallace) as well as adding kirilenko, also significantly better then wallace or evans.

Nets were 17th defensively last year. no reason that giant upgrade defensively at the 3/4 along with the added depth cant make them a top 10-15 defense. in fact, it would be pretty shocking if that didnt happen.