The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

El Pooch Grande · Post #1541 » by **El Pooch Grande** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:05 am

When on Earth is the deadline for him to accept the QO or for us to rescind it?

Mihai · Post #1542 » by **Mihai** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:08 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:When on Earth is the deadline for him to accept the QO or for us to rescind it?

I'm not sure, but I don't think there is such a deadline. The Anderson Varejao case comes to my mind.

Max Green · Post #1543 » by **Max Green** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:25 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:When on Earth is the deadline for him to accept the QO or for us to rescind it?

He has until October 1st to accept before it automatically expires, also we (team) can extend it March 1st if we want. We can rescind it at any time.

pilprin · Post #1544 » by **pilprin** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:59 pm

I would be ok bringing BJ back on a 4/32 deal. I think there is a better chance he gets S&T before signing that with MKE. The Bucks have not said anything negative about Jennings. In fact Hammonds has publicly stated he would match all offers for him. He may be hurt that they offered Teague 4/32, but he was asking for 12 annually. If he would swallow his pride, I bet they would take him back at 4/32.

I know that ticks many off, and I admit it isn't my preference, but there are not great options out there. He is 23 and NVE maybe can help him??? Maybe??

mlloyd10 · Post #1545 » by **mlloyd10** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:05 pm

Below is a list of every NBA team and their current starting PG vs Jennings.

ATL - Teague = Jennings
BOS - Rondo > Jennings
BRK - Williams > Jennings
CHR - Walker = Jennings
CHI - Rose > Jennings
CLE - Irving > Jennings
DAL - Calderon > Jennings
DEN - Lawson > Jennings
DET - Knight < Jennings
GOS - Curry > Jennings
HOU - Lin = Jennings
IND - Hill = Jennings
LAC - Paul > Jennings
LAL - Nash > Jennings
MEM - Conley > Jennings
MIA - Chalmers = Jennings
MIN - Rubio > Jennings
NOR - Holiday > Jennings
NYK - Felton = Jennings
OKC - Westbrook > Jennings
ORL - Nelson = Jennings
PHL - MCW < Jennings
PHX - Dragic = Jennings
POR - Lillard > Jennings
SAC - Vasquez = Jennings
SAN - Parker > Jennings
TOR - Lowry = Jennings
UTH - Burke = Jennings
WAS - Wall > Jennings

Based on my calculations, that leaves 2 teams that could use Jennings as an upgrade and 11 teams that already have a PG equivalent to Jennings. His value is an all-time low and his best option would be to play this yr on the QO and sign somewhere else next yr.

jtcooky · Post #1546 » by **jtcooky** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:13 pm

I think a 3 year deal is just about the only option left

Bucksmaniac · Post #1547 » by **Bucksmaniac** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:21 pm

JayMKE wrote:People are going crazy with this 'Brandon has a bad attitude' or that he's a cancer stuff. I can understand not wanting him back because of his play but this other stuff isn't rooted in reality.

Rarely is a young player a huge cancer to a team in his first few years coming out, but if they are already throwing their team under the bus in years 3 and 4 and blowing their money in strip clubs (not that that alone should deem them a "cancer") just think of the potential trouble they can get into as they get older and gain more of a chip on the shoulder due to their "experience" and veteran status.

Bucksmaniac · Post #1548 » by **Bucksmaniac** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:27 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:Below is a list of every NBA team and their current starting PG vs Jennings.

ATL - Teague = Jennings
BOS - Rondo > Jennings
BRK - Williams > Jennings
CHR - Walker = Jennings
CHI - Rose > Jennings
CLE - Irving > Jennings
DAL - Calderon > Jennings
DEN - Lawson > Jennings
DET - Knight < Jennings
GOS - Curry > Jennings
HOU - Lin = Jennings
IND - Hill = Jennings
LAC - Paul > Jennings
LAL - Nash > Jennings
MEM - Conley > Jennings
MIA - Chalmers = Jennings
MIN - Rubio > Jennings
NOR - Holiday > Jennings
NYK - Felton = Jennings
OKC - Westbrook > Jennings
ORL - Nelson = Jennings
PHL - MCW < Jennings
PHX - Dragic = Jennings
POR - Lillard > Jennings
SAC - Vasquez = Jennings
SAN - Parker > Jennings
TOR - Lowry = Jennings
UTH - Burke = Jennings
WAS - Wall > Jennings

Based on my calculations, that leaves 2 teams that could use Jennings as an upgrade and 11 teams that already have a PG equivalent to Jennings. His value is an all-time low and his best option would be to play this yr on the QO and sign somewhere else next yr.

Lol at those two. Jennings for attitude and lack of improvement alone is not equal to Teague or Dragic.

SeaLORD_0318 · Post #1549 » by **SeaLORD_0318** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:29 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Below is a list of every NBA team and their current starting PG vs Jennings.

ATL - Teague = Jennings
BOS - Rondo > Jennings
BRK - Williams > Jennings
CHR - Walker = Jennings
CHI - Rose > Jennings
CLE - Irving > Jennings
DAL - Calderon > Jennings
DEN - Lawson > Jennings
DET - Knight < Jennings
GOS - Curry > Jennings
HOU - Lin = Jennings
IND - Hill = Jennings
LAC - Paul > Jennings
LAL - Nash > Jennings
MEM - Conley > Jennings
MIA - Chalmers = Jennings
MIN - Rubio > Jennings
NOR - Holiday > Jennings
NYK - Felton = Jennings
OKC - Westbrook > Jennings
ORL - Nelson = Jennings
PHL - MCW < Jennings
PHX - Dragic = Jennings
POR - Lillard > Jennings
SAC - Vasquez = Jennings
SAN - Parker > Jennings
TOR - Lowry = Jennings
UTH - Burke = Jennings
WAS - Wall > Jennings

Based on my calculations, that leaves 2 teams that could use Jennings as an upgrade and 11 teams that already have a PG equivalent to Jennings. His value is an all-time low and his best option would be to play this yr on the QO and sign somewhere else next yr.

Lol at those two. Jennings for attitude and lack of improvement alone is not equal to Teague or Dragic.

You were kind to stop at two.

VooDoo7 · Post #1550 » by **VooDoo7** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:30 pm

Really wish we would just rescind the QO.

TheWig · Post #1551 » by **TheWig** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:30 pm

Jennings is better than Chalmers IMHO

machu46 · Post #1552 » by **machu46** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:34 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:Below is a list of every NBA team and their current starting PG vs Jennings.

ATL - Teague = Jennings
BOS - Rondo > Jennings
BRK - Williams > Jennings
CHR - Walker = Jennings
CHI - Rose > Jennings
CLE - Irving > Jennings
DAL - Calderon > Jennings
DEN - Lawson > Jennings
DET - Knight < Jennings
GOS - Curry > Jennings
HOU - Lin = Jennings
IND - Hill = Jennings
LAC - Paul > Jennings
LAL - Nash > Jennings
MEM - Conley > Jennings
MIA - Chalmers = Jennings
MIN - Rubio > Jennings
NOR - Holiday > Jennings
NYK - Felton = Jennings
OKC - Westbrook > Jennings
ORL - Nelson = Jennings
PHL - MCW < Jennings
PHX - Dragic = Jennings
POR - Lillard > Jennings
SAC - Vasquez = Jennings
SAN - Parker > Jennings
TOR - Lowry = Jennings
UTH - Burke = Jennings
WAS - Wall > Jennings

Based on my calculations, that leaves 2 teams that could use Jennings as an upgrade and 11 teams that already have a PG equivalent to Jennings. His value is an all-time low and his best option would be to play this yr on the QO and sign somewhere else next yr.

I'd say right now, Jennings is better than Kemba, Calderon, Knight, Lin, Hill, Chalmers, Felton, Nelson, MCW, maybe Dragic, Vasquez, Burke, and maybe Lowry.

Ron Swanson · Post #1553 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:36 pm

TheWig wrote:Jennings is better than Chalmers IMHO

Better than Dragic, Chalmers, Nelson, and Burke IMO. The rest is pretty accurate. Teague is also clearly better.

jtcooky · Post #1554 » by **jtcooky** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:48 pm

I really think he's better than Calderon and Lin too

TheWig · Post #1555 » by **TheWig** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:01 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
TheWig wrote:Jennings is better than Chalmers IMHO

Better than Dragic, Chalmers, Nelson, and Burke IMO. The rest is pretty accurate. Teague is also clearly better.

I agree with you as well

bucksbrewers3 · Post #1556 » by **bucksbrewers3** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:03 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Below is a list of every NBA team and their current starting PG vs Jennings.

ATL - Teague = Jennings
BOS - Rondo > Jennings
BRK - Williams > Jennings
CHR - Walker = Jennings
CHI - Rose > Jennings
CLE - Irving > Jennings
DAL - Calderon > Jennings
DEN - Lawson > Jennings
DET - Knight < Jennings
GOS - Curry > Jennings
HOU - Lin = Jennings
IND - Hill = Jennings
LAC - Paul > Jennings
LAL - Nash > Jennings
MEM - Conley > Jennings
MIA - Chalmers = Jennings
MIN - Rubio > Jennings
NOR - Holiday > Jennings
NYK - Felton = Jennings
OKC - Westbrook > Jennings
ORL - Nelson = Jennings
PHL - MCW < Jennings
PHX - Dragic = Jennings
POR - Lillard > Jennings
SAC - Vasquez = Jennings
SAN - Parker > Jennings
TOR - Lowry = Jennings
UTH - Burke = Jennings
WAS - Wall > Jennings

Based on my calculations, that leaves 2 teams that could use Jennings as an upgrade and 11 teams that already have a PG equivalent to Jennings. His value is an all-time low and his best option would be to play this yr on the QO and sign somewhere else next yr.

Lol at those two. Jennings for attitude and lack of improvement alone is not equal to Teague or Dragic.

you most certainly have a biased to hating Jennings which is why this list is beyond flawed. you have rookies on an equil level and haven't even stepped on an nba floor yet. get real man

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1557 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:12 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:I don't want him back at all but I could be reasoned to take him back on the q/o for "trade potential" alone.

theres no trade potential for brandon jennings on the qo unless your willing to bring back a contract or another 2nd.

we need to either remounce him or sign him to a very reasonable deal and see if he improves. to me those are the only 2 options. qo would be a sideshow. it would be poisonous with no real benefit to us. im not interested whatsoever at this point.

mlloyd10 · Post #1558 » by **mlloyd10** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:22 pm

bucksbrewers3 wrote:
Bucksmaniac wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Below is a list of every NBA team and their current starting PG vs Jennings.

ATL - Teague = Jennings
BOS - Rondo > Jennings
BRK - Williams > Jennings
CHR - Walker = Jennings
CHI - Rose > Jennings
CLE - Irving > Jennings
DAL - Calderon > Jennings
DEN - Lawson > Jennings
DET - Knight < Jennings
GOS - Curry > Jennings
HOU - Lin = Jennings
IND - Hill = Jennings
LAC - Paul > Jennings
LAL - Nash > Jennings
MEM - Conley > Jennings
MIA - Chalmers = Jennings
MIN - Rubio > Jennings
NOR - Holiday > Jennings
NYK - Felton = Jennings
OKC - Westbrook > Jennings
ORL - Nelson = Jennings
PHL - MCW < Jennings
PHX - Dragic = Jennings
POR - Lillard > Jennings
SAC - Vasquez = Jennings
SAN - Parker > Jennings
TOR - Lowry = Jennings
UTH - Burke = Jennings
WAS - Wall > Jennings

Based on my calculations, that leaves 2 teams that could use Jennings as an upgrade and 11 teams that already have a PG equivalent to Jennings. His value is an all-time low and his best option would be to play this yr on the QO and sign somewhere else next yr.

Lol at those two. Jennings for attitude and lack of improvement alone is not equal to Teague or Dragic.

you most certainly have a biased to hating Jennings which is why this list is beyond flawed. you have rookies on an equil level and haven't even stepped on an nba floor yet. get real man

I dont hate Jennings, Im just realistic. I have 1 rookie equal to Jennings and yes i believe that burke is on par with him. Is there still hope for Jennings, Yes, but i see him as a Jason Terry down the road

mlloyd10 · Post #1559 » by **mlloyd10** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:26 pm

jtcooky wrote:I really think he's better than Calderon and Lin too

Calderon is a better "PG" than Jennings currently. Per 36, he has more assists and less TO. Calderon also shots better

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1560 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:28 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
TheWig wrote:Jennings is better than Chalmers IMHO

Better than Dragic, Chalmers, Nelson, and Burke IMO. The rest is pretty accurate. Teague is also clearly better.

none of the teams that those players play for would rather have jennings. better is relative. i dont think theres a single team that would rather have jennings than the guy theyve got other than MAYBE the knicks.

What should the Bucks do with Jennings?