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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#101 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:18 am

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lmcguir5 wrote:Did we end up using our MLE on McBob then?


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So we still have our mid level exception? We can go over the cap with Hendo too because of Bird Rights


No, we forfeited the MLE and Bi-An when we used the Room. The former two are designated for teams over the cap, while the Room is for those under the cap. You can't be designated as a team under the cap and use the Room and then try to use the MLE or Bi-An once you're out of space. This is why I wished we just waited on signing McBob officially, but I guess he was getting impatient and/or we just weren't planning on giving out a MLE level contact.

We do have Hendo's Bird Rights, but unless his first year's salary is over $8 million (please no) then we won't be exceeding the cap to re-sign him. Should we sign him, our remaining cap space should be about 1.5m (current space) + 7.7m (cap hold) - whatever he signs for.

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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#102 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:44 pm

Always nice seeing us getting bashed on GB. People are so naive and dumb when it comes to our team.
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#103 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:59 pm

Looking at the pessimism from the GD board, I really hope the Bobcats put the tank in their rear view mirror. Call me crazy, but I'm under the belief that with the addition of two quality bigs in Al Jefferson & Cody Zeller that Charlotte could push for a 6th-8th seed in the Eastern Conference. Maybe that's just my lack of respect for the Bismack Biyombo & Byron Mullens starting frontcourt from last year combined with Mike Dunlap's coaching, but I'm confident that the Bobcats will win over 35 games during the 2013-14 season
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#104 » by lmcguir5 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:41 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Looking at the pessimism from the GD board, I really hope the Bobcats put the tank in their rear view mirror. Call me crazy, but I'm under the belief that with the addition of two quality bigs in Al Jefferson & Cody Zeller that Charlotte could push for a 6th-8th seed in the Eastern Conference. Maybe that's just my lack of respect for the Bismack Biyombo & Byron Mullens starting frontcourt from last year combined with Mike Dunlap's coaching, but I'm confident that the Bobcats will win over 35 games during the 2013-14 season


I'm the exact same way, I feel like we've gotten better just by cutting the dead weight on our team. Addition by subtraction if you will. We got rid of Tyrus, Diop, Mullens and we're keeping the good pieces and adding some additionally good pieces.

I have to have the optimism that we're going to turn the corner somewhat this regular season. With BRD, we should see better defense, less blowouts and just overall more competitive basketball. The rooks should be better, and I feel like our bench is starting to round out some. Depth is never a bad thing to have in the NBA. People just don't want to give us any respect because of our past losing seasons, and that in itself is just utter ignorance. We have financial flexibility as well as good players on cheap rookie contracts, a name change coming and hopefully a culture change too. I'm finally starting to see the light at the end of the rebuilding tunnel :D
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#105 » by countryboi » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:54 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:Looking at the pessimism from the GD board, I really hope the Bobcats put the tank in their rear view mirror. Call me crazy, but I'm under the belief that with the addition of two quality bigs in Al Jefferson & Cody Zeller that Charlotte could push for a 6th-8th seed in the Eastern Conference. Maybe that's just my lack of respect for the Bismack Biyombo & Byron Mullens starting frontcourt from last year combined with Mike Dunlap's coaching, but I'm confident that the Bobcats will win over 35 games during the 2013-14 season


I don't give a damn what they think we need this last year....the training wheels ain't coming off till next season.
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#106 » by fatlever » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:41 am

anyone care to take a stab at projections for next year now that we know hendo is back?

im going out on a limb and suggestion it will be kemba, not jefferson who leads us in scoring.

walker: 18ppg, 6.5apg
jefferson: 17ppg, 8rpg
henderson: 14.5ppg
zeller: 11.5ppg, 7rpg
kidd-gilchrist: 11ppg, 6rpg

yup, thats all five starters in double-figures. balance scoring.
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Post#107 » by vorbis » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:34 pm

here goes nothing

al jefferson - 17 ppg 9.5 rpg 2apg 49% FG
biyombo - 4ppg 8rpg 2bpg 46% FG
ben gordon - 8ppg 43% FG 42% 3FG
b haywood - nothing significant
henderson - 14ppg 3.5rpg 2apg 45% FG 33% 3FG
mkg - 10ppg 6.5rpg 46% FG 75% FT
mcroberts - 6ppg 5.5rpg 51% FG
sessions - 11ppg 4apg 43% FG 83% FT
taylor - 8ppg 44% FG 36% 3FG
kemba - 16ppg 6.5apg 3.5rpg 43% FG 33% 3FG 2+spg
zeller - 10ppg 7rpg 2apg 50% FG
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#108 » by HornetJail » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:05 pm

al - 18/10, 48%
biz - 5/7, 45%, 2 bpg
z-rex - 9/6, 46%
mcbob - 8/7, 3apg 46%
mkg - 12/6, 48%
jt - 7/2, 43%/40%
hendo - 16/4/3 - 48%/34%
kemba - 18/9/4/2 - 46%/36%
sessions - 12/3/5 - 44%

haywood, gordon, adrien,etc. produce negligible stats.
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#109 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:00 am

fatlever wrote:anyone care to take a stab at projections for next year now that we know hendo is back?

im going out on a limb and suggestion it will be kemba, not jefferson who leads us in scoring.

walker: 18ppg, 6.5apg
jefferson: 17ppg, 8rpg
henderson: 14.5ppg
zeller: 11.5ppg, 7rpg
kidd-gilchrist: 11ppg, 6rpg

yup, thats all five starters in double-figures. balance scoring.

do you remember in which thread did we do projections before the last season started? I don't think that I ever took a lot at mine after the season. I probably predicted Sessions to average 6 points or something.
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#110 » by jakenc » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:35 pm

New to realgm here. I'll take a stab at it for the starters

Kemba: 16.5 ppg, 9 apg, 2.5 steals
Hendo: 17 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3 apg
MKG: 13 ppg, 8 rpg
Zeller: 11 ppg, 7 rpg
Al: 19 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 apg

Kemba scores more efficiently, albeit slightly less. His assist numbers shoot up.
Henderson improves in his point output.
MKG makes strides, becoming a nightly double-double threat due to increased minutes.
Zeller performs well and competes for rookie of the year, probably with Oladipo as his main competition.
Al puts up pretty usual numbers by his standards, with a small increase in points.
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#111 » by Snidely FC » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:15 pm

I predict Al Jeff will "tweak" his knee in February, causing him to miss the rest of the season, causing the team to plummet into chaos and into one of the 3 worst records in the league.

Since we reversed our draft karma by signing Al Jeff thereby declaring to the NBA world that we are no longer trying to lose, we will then win the draft lottery and receive the #1 pick in the '14 draft.
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Re: Our Franchise Direction? 

Post#112 » by HornetJail » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:26 pm

Snidely FC wrote:I predict Al Jeff will "tweak" his knee in February, causing him to miss the rest of the season, causing the team to plummet into chaos and into one of the 3 worst records in the league.

Since we reversed our draft karma by signing Al Jeff thereby declaring to the NBA world that we are no longer trying to lose, we will then win the draft lottery and receive the #1 pick in the '14 draft.

Damn it Snidely, now we know exactly what's not going to happen.
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Post#113 » by lmcguir5 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:56 pm

Snidely FC wrote:I predict Al Jeff will "tweak" his knee in February, causing him to miss the rest of the season, causing the team to plummet into chaos and into one of the 3 worst records in the league.

Since we reversed our draft karma by signing Al Jeff thereby declaring to the NBA world that we are no longer trying to lose, we will then win the draft lottery and receive the #1 pick in the '14 draft.


Why the hell would you even joke about this?
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Post#114 » by Snidely FC » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:03 pm

Snidely FC wrote:I predict Al Jeff will not really injure his knee in February, causing him to sit on a beach in Hawaii the rest of the season. The Bobcats turn to former wrestling star, Butterbean, who leads them to a tenth place finish. CHA loses its first round pick to CHI.


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Post#115 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:26 pm

lmcguir5 wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:I predict Al Jeff will "tweak" his knee in February, causing him to miss the rest of the season, causing the team to plummet into chaos and into one of the 3 worst records in the league.

Since we reversed our draft karma by signing Al Jeff thereby declaring to the NBA world that we are no longer trying to lose, we will then win the draft lottery and receive the #1 pick in the '14 draft.


Why the hell would you even joke about this?


He obviously meant that we would go into all out tank mode to preserve a top pick. He wasn't implying that Jefferson will seriously get hurt. More along the lines of "my knee is sore" and miss 15 games when he very well could play.
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Post#116 » by Elden Payton » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:20 am

jakenc wrote:New to realgm here. I'll take a stab at it for the starters

Kemba: 16.5 ppg, 9 apg, 2.5 steals
Hendo: 17 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3 apg
MKG: 13 ppg, 8 rpg
Zeller: 11 ppg, 7 rpg
Al: 19 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 apg

Kemba scores more efficiently, albeit slightly less. His assist numbers shoot up.
Henderson improves in his point output.
MKG makes strides, becoming a nightly double-double threat due to increased minutes.
Zeller performs well and competes for rookie of the year, probably with Oladipo as his main competition.
Al puts up pretty usual numbers by his standards, with a small increase in points.


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Post#117 » by mcaponi2 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Kemba: 16 ppg, 7.5 apg, 1.8 spg
Henderson: 13 ppg, 4 rpg, 2.5 apg
MKG: 14 ppg, 7 rpg, 1.5 spg
Zeller: 12 ppg, 8 rpg, 1 bpg
Jefferson: 18 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.4 bpg

Kemba: More offensive talent on the team means less shots but with Al to dish to down low and the development of MKG's shot his assists will see a nice bump with a possible all star nod
Henderson: I feel that he for the most part has reached his potential and he is not in the future plans of the hornets. See his points dipping a bit
MKG: He is the second coming of andre iguidola. Puts up a similar stat line. Has a major leap from year 1 to year 2
Zeller: Puts up a respectable stat line for a rookie big man. Contends for rookie of the year
Jefferson: This is a typical stat line you can expect of him
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Post#119 » by JMAC3 » Sat Aug 3, 2013 4:40 am

This franchise's future pretty much boils down to one thing... and that is the development of MKG and Zeller. If one or both of these guys live up to their draft spot and develop into an NBA star or Allstar than we are going to be a playoff team for years.

However, if they both end up being just serviceable we may struggle to get out of the first round, but we can always make additions so no need to panic right now. I believe Kemba is going to be a borderline allstar for many years to come and Jefferson is going to be rock solid. It all rests on the young guys shoulders unless we somehow land another top 5 pick but that has been talked about forward and backwards enough for now.

If MKG develops an effective offensive game and we utilize Zeller correctly we could be a dangerous team. I know its hard to imagine us being better than teams like the Knicks and Pacers now, but I do not think it is as far away as some imagine. Nobody thought the Pacers were going to be in the Eastern Conference finals at the end of last year or the Grizzlies to be this good.

We have more than enough raw talent, its just about learning how to win, meshing as a team, and finally being coached how to play competitive baskeball on both ends of the floor.
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Post#120 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Aug 3, 2013 5:24 am

JMAC3 wrote:This franchise's future pretty much boils down to one thing... and that is the development of MKG and Zeller. If one or both of these guys live up to their draft spot and develop into an NBA star or Allstar than we are going to be a playoff team for years.

However, if they both end up being just serviceable we may struggle to get out of the first round, but we can always make additions so no need to panic right now. I believe Kemba is going to be a borderline allstar for many years to come and Jefferson is going to be rock solid. It all rests on the young guys shoulders unless we somehow land another top 5 pick but that has been talked about forward and backwards enough for now.

If MKG develops an effective offensive game and we utilize Zeller correctly we could be a dangerous team. I know its hard to imagine us being better than teams like the Knicks and Pacers now, but I do not think it is as far away as some imagine. Nobody thought the Pacers were going to be in the Eastern Conference finals at the end of last year or the Grizzlies to be this good.

We have more than enough raw talent, its just about learning how to win, meshing as a team, and finally being coached how to play competitive baskeball on both ends of the floor.


I think we can make a Pacers like run in the '14-15 season. I'm very, very high on Zeller. I think he's the key
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