Wall nearing Max Deal with Wizards

[Clarity]

I am not trolling, I am just saying that you cannot call Wall a bad jumpshooter when Knight is proclaimed a good jumpshooter (not just a good 3 point shooter, a good overall jumpshooter). Also, Monroe is brought up because if everyone thinks he's going to get a mid-range shot just because he works at it, then Wall will be able to also. Wall with a jumpshot is a top-3 PG in the future. I don't see why your getting all angry and defensive. Have a snickers xD.

Angry & defensive? lol Nah i'm commenting that your trolling is silly.

Monroe & Knight have nothing to do with this convo, not 1 person mentioned them, you brought them up to troll.

Again John Wall cant shoot currently & is about to get a max deal, both facts. Although throughout history crappy shooters havent become great (see the MCW draft convo), maybe Wall can be the first.

You think 36 percent from three is awful? TSP say no.

the 3 is nearly 24 feet out, he shoots 36% from 16-23 feet out at almost 6 attempts per game.

[rock digger]

I brought them up because if Pistons fans say that Monroe can learn to have a jumpshot, then why would Wall not be able to learn a jumpshot too? I don't think that any would disagree that Wall with a jumpshot is a top-tier PG, and thus, would be worth the max extension. Lebron James wasn't a good jumpshooter when he came into the league either, but now he is more than capable of shooting jumpshots. I realize that James is quite a bundle of talent, but then again, so is Wall. I don't see where you're getting that I'm trolling. I'm just saying that you can't expect our talent to magically gain skills, such as Monroe learning to shoot a jumpshot, and then expect other talent such as Wall to remain static in terms of their development.

It seems like you wanna attack the poster more than you do the posts xD

[Dirtgrain]

You think 36 percent from three is awful? TSP say no.

the 3 is nearly 24 feet out, he shoots 36% from 16-23 feet out at almost 6 attempts per game.

Oh, I thought one of the Wizard fans posted that he shot 36% from three point range for some latter chunk of the season--my mistake.

[Clarity]

I brought them up because if Pistons fans say that Monroe can learn to have a jumpshot, then why would Wall not be able to learn a jumpshot too? I don't think that any would disagree that Wall with a jumpshot is a top-tier PG, and thus, would be worth the max extension. Lebron James wasn't a good jumpshooter when he came into the league either, but now he is more than capable of shooting jumpshots. I realize that James is quite a bundle of talent, but then again, so is Wall. I don't see where you're getting that I'm trolling. I'm just saying that you can't expect our talent to magically gain skills, such as Monroe learning to shoot a jumpshot, and then expect other talent such as Wall to remain static in terms of their development.

It seems like you wanna attack the poster more than you do the posts xD

No Piston fans in here brought up Knight/Monroe, only you. No one said John Wall couldnt improve as you've insinuated. All that was said was the fact that he cant throw it in the ocean currently. Literally everyone in here has already said the Wiz almost have to max him & they are doing it off the potential of what he could become so youre basically repeating what everyone has already said.

[rock digger]

I don't think you understand that I KNOW I was the one who brought up Knight/Monroe...you're making it seem as if I'm denying that no other person brought them up in this thread. I don't see the issue in my bringing them up if they help address my point, which I'm doing. I know that nobody said "Wall can't improve", but saying "Wall can't shoot but you know the Wizards kind of have to give him the max anyway" is pretty damn close to saying that he won't improve his shot.

Not "literally" everyone has said that he should get the max in this thread so yeah that point isn't really a point at all.

so youre basically repeating what everyone has already said.

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Oh my god, I have never seen anyone use that argument against someone ever. Even the weakest of arguments don't include that little portion. For you to say that as if it actually matters that I'm repeating stuff is hilarious. In case you didn't know where we are, we're on a FORUM. You know what forums are for? Sharing opinions. You know what you can do with an opinion? You can agree or disagree with it. When a thread like this is made, there is going to be one person who shares your opinion and posts before you do. You know what happens when this situation occurs? A person with the same opinion will often repeat what the other guy said in different words because it is a FORUM. You're trying to diminish the value of my argument by saying I'm just repeating earlier comments, and maybe I am, but if we had it your way, every thread would just be 2 posts, one that agreed, and one that disagreed. The fact that you even brought that up is laughable.

If you wanted to end the argument, then good job, you succeeded. I'll be too busy laughing at that last part to take anything else seriously.

[Clarity]

Mega reach trying to transform "he cant shoot but the Wiz are giving him the max" into "He will never improve his shot" some fine Fox News'ing there Geraldo.

I really have no clue what youre even talking about in any of these posts, your last post was just blabbering.

John Wall cant shoot, he is getting the max off the potential he does ever find a jumper. Brandon Knight & Greg Monroe have nothing to do with anything & were just brought up to troll. I have no clue why I even responded to the clear trolling.

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[rock digger]

If you don't see why I brought up those players, then it's clear to me that attempting to have any sort of civil debate with you is a futile effort. Maybe if you concentrated a bit more on the posts instead of the poster, you'd make better posts xD. To call me a troll, all I can do is laugh at your mindset.

Ha.

[HotelVitale]

Clarity, Wall is getting the max because he was already a top 25ish player for the last third of the year. If he continues playing that well, he's easily worth a rookie deal max, and if his shot improves then that's gravy.

I don't know how well he shot from midrange those couple of months but it's pretty moot: if you can pour in 22/5/8 on 55% true shooting (Wall's numbers for March/April), it doesn't matter that much how you're doing it. You're really effective somehow or other.

The gamble is that those couple of months were him at his absolute best, and that he'll continue to shift between periods like that and 6 weeks of 16/6 on 38% shooting. I think Washington is being optimistic but the only other option is to play hard ball to try to save a couple of million bucks--holding out for a 4/48 or something--and risk alienating the only potential superstar they've had in years.

[Clarity]

RD- Focused on the Poster? I have no clue who you are lol. Please be assured I was commenting on the trolling/silly post.

HV- As we have all discussed ad nauseum, Wall is getting a max deal based on potential, if I was the Wiz I would do it too, they really have no choice, he is the face of that franchise & like you said hes the only potential superstar they've had in years. History tells us awful shooters dont become great but maybe Wall can break the mold. Even becoming an average shooter would make him much better.