Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition)

[XonezIOIzenoX]

Where are our Tank Generals? They should be able to place a stragety that can satisfy both parties in wanting to either contend or to tank. Lets see, BBD perhaps gets injured, jameer and AA traded by then help us in tanking a bit? Sadley guys, the reality is that either you contend or suck, there is no middle line on here. We are going to suck I am sure of it. We saw glimps of us winning but winning in the middle of pack type of team (Bucks, Raptors) and best believe you don't want to be in that position. Our Young guys are players with great talent just need few more season in till we can actually see their potential and overall for this team.

[The Real Dalic]

Where are our Tank Generals? They should be able to place a stragety that can satisfy both parties in wanting to either contend or to tank. Lets see, BBD perhaps gets injured, jameer and AA traded by then help us in tanking a bit? Sadley guys, the reality is that either you contend or suck, there is no middle line on here. We are going to suck I am sure of it. We saw glimps of us winning but winning in the middle of pack type of team (Bucks, Raptors) and best believe you don't want to be in that position. Our Young guys are players with great talent just need few more season in till we can actually see their potential and overall for this team.

The Magic were a middle of the pack team for a few years before we became contenders again. We were only really bad one year during that time and I think that was TMacs last year here.

[BadMofoPimp]

Where are our Tank Generals? They should be able to place a stragety that can satisfy both parties in wanting to either contend or to tank. Lets see, BBD perhaps gets injured, jameer and AA traded by then help us in tanking a bit? Sadley guys, the reality is that either you contend or suck, there is no middle line on here. We are going to suck I am sure of it. We saw glimps of us winning but winning in the middle of pack type of team (Bucks, Raptors) and best believe you don't want to be in that position. Our Young guys are players with great talent just need few more season in till we can actually see their potential and overall for this team.

The Magic were a middle of the pack team for a few years before we became contenders again. We were only really bad one year during that time and I think that was TMacs last year here.

I thought it was the year or two after TMAC when the Magic got Francis and Mobley.

[The Real Dalic]

Where are our Tank Generals? They should be able to place a stragety that can satisfy both parties in wanting to either contend or to tank. Lets see, BBD perhaps gets injured, jameer and AA traded by then help us in tanking a bit? Sadley guys, the reality is that either you contend or suck, there is no middle line on here. We are going to suck I am sure of it. We saw glimps of us winning but winning in the middle of pack type of team (Bucks, Raptors) and best believe you don't want to be in that position. Our Young guys are players with great talent just need few more season in till we can actually see their potential and overall for this team.

The Magic were a middle of the pack team for a few years before we became contenders again. We were only really bad one year during that time and I think that was TMacs last year here.

I thought it was the year or two after TMAC when the Magic got Francis and Mobley.

I'm not exactly sure when it was someone else will most likely correct the both of us lol. But I remember it being TMacs last season here.

[XonezIOIzenoX]

Where are our Tank Generals? They should be able to place a stragety that can satisfy both parties in wanting to either contend or to tank. Lets see, BBD perhaps gets injured, jameer and AA traded by then help us in tanking a bit? Sadley guys, the reality is that either you contend or suck, there is no middle line on here. We are going to suck I am sure of it. We saw glimps of us winning but winning in the middle of pack type of team (Bucks, Raptors) and best believe you don't want to be in that position. Our Young guys are players with great talent just need few more season in till we can actually see their potential and overall for this team.

The Magic were a middle of the pack team for a few years before we became contenders again. We were only really bad one year during that time and I think that was TMacs last year here.

You right its true. Though that was a different time, and CBA rules were different as well. Its like this, we can get lucky like the rockets have made with trades and position themselves for a rare superstar sweepstake signing, or be bad enough to get lucky for a potential superstar. There is no player outside of Durant that i would like to start building around for or trading for (Kyrie Erving is another). Really who in next season or so would you guys just want to trade for in equal if not better in return? Another thing is if we rush to get great players then we might up like the pelicans who seem to have rush a rebuild. I say "Tank Hard or Die Trying"

[BadMofoPimp]

The Magic were a middle of the pack team for a few years before we became contenders again. We were only really bad one year during that time and I think that was TMacs last year here.

I thought it was the year or two after TMAC when the Magic got Francis and Mobley.

I'm not exactly sure when it was someone else will most likely correct the both of us lol. But I remember it being TMacs last season here.

Lets just say it was a dark period of Magic history because the Magic tanked when Francis declined and Mobley stopped playing ball. I think we all lost interest about that time for a year here.

[BadMofoPimp]

You right its true. Though that was a different time, and CBA rules were different as well. Its like this, we can get lucky like the rockets have made with trades and position themselves for a rare superstar sweepstake signing, or be bad enough to get lucky for a potential superstar. There is no player outside of Durant that i would like to start building around for or trading for (Kyrie Erving is another). Really who in next season or so would you guys just want to trade for in equal if not better in return? Another thing is if we rush to get great players then we might up like the pelicans who seem to have rush a rebuild. I say "Tank Hard or Die Trying"

I love what the Pelicans are doing. They have a potential superstar in Davis, a great young PG in Holiday with some very solid young players to build around them. And, they didn't have to tank for years to do it either!

[XonezIOIzenoX]

You right its true. Though that was a different time, and CBA rules were different as well. Its like this, we can get lucky like the rockets have made with trades and position themselves for a rare superstar sweepstake signing, or be bad enough to get lucky for a potential superstar. There is no player outside of Durant that i would like to start building around for or trading for (Kyrie Erving is another). Really who in next season or so would you guys just want to trade for in equal if not better in return? Another thing is if we rush to get great players then we might up like the pelicans who seem to have rush a rebuild. I say "Tank Hard or Die Trying"

I love what the Pelicans are doing. They have a potential superstar in Davis, a great young PG in Holiday with some very solid young players to build around them. And, they didn't have to tank for years to do it either!

Yea they will have a great team, but not championship calibur one..As you say they have Davis as a potential superstar in Davis, we only have a potential star in Oladipo from our recent draft, so its not the same prospects (in respect to oladipo he is a great player). We aren't exactly same shoes as they who can make these moves to move their team to a top 8-6 out west for next season and then top 6 or 4 for years to come. We not aiming for that...

In addition to this, let tank one more season its all i ask. Then we make the moves to start contending..This is Chess not Checkers peoples!

[PeePee la Fritz]

Lol I love your new avatar badmofo.

[PeePee la Fritz]

You right its true. Though that was a different time, and CBA rules were different as well. Its like this, we can get lucky like the rockets have made with trades and position themselves for a rare superstar sweepstake signing, or be bad enough to get lucky for a potential superstar. There is no player outside of Durant that i would like to start building around for or trading for (Kyrie Erving is another). Really who in next season or so would you guys just want to trade for in equal if not better in return? Another thing is if we rush to get great players then we might up like the pelicans who seem to have rush a rebuild. I say "Tank Hard or Die Trying"

I love what the Pelicans are doing. They have a potential superstar in Davis, a great young PG in Holiday with some very solid young players to build around them. And, they didn't have to tank for years to do it either!

And I agree with you. I can't believe I'm saying this but Stern did them a huge favor by nixing that crap deal. And maybe their GM is actually competent. Who'd a thunk it

[BadMofoPimp]

I love what the Pelicans are doing. They have a potential superstar in Davis, a great young PG in Holiday with some very solid young players to build around them. And, they didn't have to tank for years to do it either!

Yea they will have a great team, but not championship calibur one..As you say they have Davis as a potential superstar in Davis, we only have a potential star in Oladipo from our recent draft, so its not the same prospects (in respect to oladipo he is a great player). We aren't exactly same shoes as they who can make these moves to move their team to a top 8-6 out west for next season and then top 6 or 4 for years to come. We not aiming for that.

I disagree. If the Pelicans have all sorts of assets to either move or that could be building blocks. They have all sorts of potential to make moves. Plus, Jrue Holiday is only like 24 years old and still getting better as he is already All-Star level. Hornets could be better in 2-3 years than they were during their best CP years. And, that could compete for a title someday. You can never say never. You only need one superstar player as Indiana proved last year and Spurs also. If the Heat made one wrong move against either team, an underdog could be champions.

[XonezIOIzenoX]

I love what the Pelicans are doing. They have a potential superstar in Davis, a great young PG in Holiday with some very solid young players to build around them. And, they didn't have to tank for years to do it either!

Yea they will have a great team, but not championship calibur one..As you say they have Davis as a potential superstar in Davis, we only have a potential star in Oladipo from our recent draft, so its not the same prospects (in respect to oladipo he is a great player). We aren't exactly same shoes as they who can make these moves to move their team to a top 8-6 out west for next season and then top 6 or 4 for years to come. We not aiming for that.

I disagree. If the Pelicans have all sorts of assets to either move or that could be building blocks. They have all sorts of potential to make moves. Plus, Jrue Holiday is only like 24 years old and still getting better as he is already All-Star level. Hornets could be better in 2-3 years than they were during their best CP years. And, that could compete for a title someday. You can never say never. You only need one superstar player as Indiana proved last year and Spurs also. If the Heat made one wrong move against either team, an underdog could be champions.

You know I agree on that notion about pelicans now that you put it that way. However, we are not in their position all because of the fact we don't have a superstar within our team that we can be for certain to build around for. that is why i suggest for tanking one more year so we can get that potential superstar. Also too we aren't financial free yet with our huge contracts still under us for more season. Just one more season, one more tanking, and then we can say we have pieces, siginings, and trades to make and build this team as contender.

[thelead]

You right its true. Though that was a different time, and CBA rules were different as well. Its like this, we can get lucky like the rockets have made with trades and position themselves for a rare superstar sweepstake signing, or be bad enough to get lucky for a potential superstar. There is no player outside of Durant that i would like to start building around for or trading for (Kyrie Erving is another). Really who in next season or so would you guys just want to trade for in equal if not better in return? Another thing is if we rush to get great players then we might up like the pelicans who seem to have rush a rebuild. I say "Tank Hard or Die Trying"

I love what the Pelicans are doing. They have a potential superstar in Davis, a great young PG in Holiday with some very solid young players to build around them. And, they didn't have to tank for years to do it either!

And I agree with you. I can't believe I'm saying this but Stern did them a huge favor by nixing that crap deal. And maybe their GM is actually competent. Who'd a thunk it

I am actually not a fan of what the Pelicans have done. They seem to be rushing their rebuild instead of doing it the right way. I think Holliday is overrated, Gordon is often injured, Ryan is being paid a ton to be a backup, and their "superstar" is not even close to reaching his potential. Let's not even talk about that crap LA trade that their GM wanted to do that would have kept that team in mediocrity. Don't get me wrong, they will be in the playoffs sooner rather than later but I don't see how they become a championship level team unless Davis turns into prime Garnett.

[The Real Dalic]

I am actually not a fan of what the Pelicans have done. They seem to be rushing their rebuild instead of doing it the right way. I think Holliday is overrated, Gordon is often injured, Ryan is being paid a ton to be a backup, and their "superstar" is not even close to reaching his potential. Let's not even talk about that crap LA trade that their GM wanted to do that would have kept that team in mediocrity. Don't get me wrong, they will be in the playoffs sooner rather than later but I don't see how they become a championship level team unless Davis turns into prime Garnett.

They're only one really good Role player or Allstar away from being really good. I think they have to wait one or two years for Davis to get better, but they are just one piece away from doing some damage.

[MellowRose]

Yea, I don't like what the Pelicans are doing either. They should have tanked for at least the 2014 draft and then started to sign FA / trade then. Bad job.

[The Real Dalic]

Yea, I don't like what the Pelicans are doing either. They should have tanked for at least the 2014 draft and then started to sign FA / trade then. Bad job.

What if they're still bad though? They're not ready for the playoffs yet. They might still end up with a good pick. Besides what if the Sixers traded Jrue before the draft coming up? Idk if they have their pick this year but at least they have a guy they know can play in Jrue.

I don't really like what they did either but I also don't think they made a huge mistake.

[Nyce_1]

Yea, I don't like what the Pelicans are doing either. They should have tanked for at least the 2014 draft and then started to sign FA / trade then. Bad job.

What if they're still bad though? They're not ready for the playoffs yet. They might still end up with a good pick. Besides what if the Sixers traded Jrue before the draft coming up? Idk if they have their pick this year but at least they have a guy they know can play in Jrue.

I don't really like what they did either but I also don't think they made a huge mistake.

They traded their pick to Philly for Holiday; top 3 or 5 protected. They won't be that bad.

[Def Swami]

Al Harrington had such a disappointing year last season, probably didn’t even notice he was on an NBA roster. Yes played in 10 dismal games for the Orlando Magic last season, and wants to forget all about the horrible experience. The 33-year-old forward is aware that the Magic may trade, or choose to cut him. Either way Harrington says he’s prepared. Harrington has two years, $14.7 million left on his contract, and told USA Today that he’s lost 27 pounds, and would prefer to play for a contender.

“It’s been hard work,” Harrington, who gained all of his weight back and more last season, said of his road back. “I started on April 26. That’s the day I got in the gym, and I’ve been in here ever since. I really had no time off, just been grinding and trying to lose the weight. I feel like the lighter I am the more pressure I take off my knee, you know what I mean? So that was the focus behind losing the weight, and then just being strong. “I’ve lost 27 pounds. I’m on my way down. I had to do it, and I’m focused. I’ve got a lot left in the tank. I’m only 33 years old, and people act like I’m 40. I’m just excited about getting back out there on the court and showing everybody. For me, this year I’m going to have a chip on my shoulder, so if I play like that I’m going to be tough to deal with.”

Harrington averaged 14 points a game for Denver two years ago, and should be able to provide some contender with outside shooting.
Read more at http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/ ... yG3h3fS.99

[Blue_and_Whte]

Al Harrington had such a disappointing year last season, probably didn’t even notice he was on an NBA roster. Yes played in 10 dismal games for the Orlando Magic last season, and wants to forget all about the horrible experience. The 33-year-old forward is aware that the Magic may trade, or choose to cut him. Either way Harrington says he’s prepared. Harrington has two years, $14.7 million left on his contract, and told USA Today that he’s lost 27 pounds, and would prefer to play for a contender.

“It’s been hard work,” Harrington, who gained all of his weight back and more last season, said of his road back. “I started on April 26. That’s the day I got in the gym, and I’ve been in here ever since. I really had no time off, just been grinding and trying to lose the weight. I feel like the lighter I am the more pressure I take off my knee, you know what I mean? So that was the focus behind losing the weight, and then just being strong. “I’ve lost 27 pounds. I’m on my way down. I had to do it, and I’m focused. I’ve got a lot left in the tank. I’m only 33 years old, and people act like I’m 40. I’m just excited about getting back out there on the court and showing everybody. For me, this year I’m going to have a chip on my shoulder, so if I play like that I’m going to be tough to deal with.”

Harrington averaged 14 points a game for Denver two years ago, and should be able to provide some contender with outside shooting.
Read more at http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/ ... yG3h3fS.99

he"ll ring chase somewhere.

[doct3r dr3]

Tobias working out recently: http://instagram.com/p/cZDP2aB4uq/#

looks a lot bigger/stronger, but also a bit slower