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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#21 » by bigfoot » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:49 am

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I wish I could be optimistic about him but I just can't. I hated the selection when we drafted him and he has done nothing since then to change my opinion. If he were to spend as much time in the gym as he does on Twitter, he would have developed a good shot by now.

Its impossible to develop players who don't really think they need to improve much. At this point, we would be lucky if we can get a 2nd rd pick for him.


That article was written by a blogger with the IQ of Beasley. Contradicts himself. Crap journalism trying to make a story about nothing. If he was a journalist he would be asking Marshall something along these lines.

1) What have you been working on this summer? Goran put out some nice workout videos last summer. Do you have any plans for those?
2) Can you describe some of your shooting workouts for the fans?
3) Jared Dudley was our resident twitter expert. He used to keep fans informed of his summer workouts with Impact basketball. Do you plan to take over the helm?

Simple, simple questions that expose problems or improvements. Instead it is all spectulation using words like "seems".

As hard a time we (members of the forum) give our players we should be all over these VToS and BToS bloggers who have access to the players and front office. If they can't even ask good questions they shouldn't be formulating digital thoughts.
Nice post. Sums up my thoughts on BSotS bloggers as well.


Thanks for the kind comment. I really, really respect Coro. He does good job of only presenting facts based on player and coach statements. For example, he called out Marshall based on his tweet about "fastbreaking". He had info to backup his article. Calling out players like some of these other so-called journalists is a death blow to their ability to get information. If you write crap about a player why would they every talk to you. Why would other teammates talk with a report if the think they're going to write flaming articles that causes problems within the team. So many bloggers and reporters (Bickley, ktar goons) just try to illicit the emotional responses from the readers. They ought to go work for the National Enquirer.
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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#22 » by bigfoot » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:55 am

More background on Marshall. Some say he is not athletic.

  • His 3/4 court sprint speed was 3.23s and by comparison Goodwin's was 3.27s
  • His standing vertical was 31" and Goodwin's was 30"
  • His max vertical was 37" and Goodwin's was 36"

By all comparisons Marshall sounds as athletic as Goodwin. Here are three problem areas:

  • His lane agility was 12.03s and Goodwin's was 10.75s
  • His bodyfat was 7.8% and Goodwin's was 4.6%
  • His wingspan is 6'5.5" and Goodwin's is 6'9.5"

Obviously Marshall can improve agility and bodyfat (he still has the body of a 1st year Jared Dudley). Unfortunately he can't fix his wingspan. I swear McD only wants players with orangutang-like arms.

Still Marshall has elite court vision and passing skills. Can he make up for some of his physical deficiencies with BBIQ like Dudley did??
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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#23 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:19 pm

bigfoot wrote:More background on Marshall. Some say he is not athletic.

  • His 3/4 court sprint speed was 3.23s and by comparison Goodwin's was 3.27s
  • His standing vertical was 31" and Goodwin's was 30"
  • His max vertical was 37" and Goodwin's was 36"

By all comparisons Marshall sounds as athletic as Goodwin. Here are three problem areas:

  • His lane agility was 12.03s and Goodwin's was 10.75s
  • His bodyfat was 7.8% and Goodwin's was 4.6%
  • His wingspan is 6'5.5" and Goodwin's is 6'9.5"

Obviously Marshall can improve agility and bodyfat (he still has the body of a 1st year Jared Dudley). Unfortunately he can't fix his wingspan. I swear McD only wants players with orangutang-like arms.

Still Marshall has elite court vision and passing skills. Can he make up for some of his physical deficiencies with BBIQ like Dudley did??


Problem is that u can't be overwhelming one dimensionally unless you are complete freak doing it. Only player that was successful being one-dimensionally type player that I remember that stuck around was Dennis rodman. He was a freaky good rebounder. Was not a good scorer, really wasn't a threat at all on offense. But that's about the only player I can remember being so one dimensional and successful. Forgot to mention that unlike Marshall, rodman was athletic as hell.

"Still Marshall has elite court vision and passing skills." =
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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#24 » by jcsunsfan » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:44 am

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bigfoot wrote:More background on Marshall. Some say he is not athletic.

  • His 3/4 court sprint speed was 3.23s and by comparison Goodwin's was 3.27s
  • His standing vertical was 31" and Goodwin's was 30"
  • His max vertical was 37" and Goodwin's was 36"

By all comparisons Marshall sounds as athletic as Goodwin. Here are three problem areas:

  • His lane agility was 12.03s and Goodwin's was 10.75s
  • His bodyfat was 7.8% and Goodwin's was 4.6%
  • His wingspan is 6'5.5" and Goodwin's is 6'9.5"

Obviously Marshall can improve agility and bodyfat (he still has the body of a 1st year Jared Dudley). Unfortunately he can't fix his wingspan. I swear McD only wants players with orangutang-like arms.

Still Marshall has elite court vision and passing skills. Can he make up for some of his physical deficiencies with BBIQ like Dudley did??


Problem is that u can't be overwhelming one dimensionally unless you are complete freak doing it. Only player that was successful being one-dimensionally type player that I remember that stuck around was Dennis rodman. He was a freaky good rebounder. Was not a good scorer, really wasn't a threat at all on offense. But that's about the only player I can remember being so one dimensional and successful. Forgot to mention that unlike Marshall, rodman was athletic as hell.

"Still Marshall has elite court vision and passing skills." =
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Is it possible for Marshall to be successful? Sure anything is possible
Is it likely he will be successful? Nope


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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#25 » by Revived » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:42 am

bigfoot wrote:More background on Marshall. Some say he is not athletic.

  • His 3/4 court sprint speed was 3.23s and by comparison Goodwin's was 3.27s
  • His standing vertical was 31" and Goodwin's was 30"
  • His max vertical was 37" and Goodwin's was 36"

By all comparisons Marshall sounds as athletic as Goodwin. Here are three problem areas:

  • His lane agility was 12.03s and Goodwin's was 10.75s
  • His bodyfat was 7.8% and Goodwin's was 4.6%
  • His wingspan is 6'5.5" and Goodwin's is 6'9.5"

Obviously Marshall can improve agility and bodyfat (he still has the body of a 1st year Jared Dudley). Unfortunately he can't fix his wingspan. I swear McD only wants players with orangutang-like arms.

Still Marshall has elite court vision and passing skills. Can he make up for some of his physical deficiencies with BBIQ like Dudley did??


Here read this:

But speed is not as important as acceleration on an NBA fast break. Acceleration is a product of a player’s agility. And though his sprint time was respectable, Marshall’s agility drill time at the combine was abysmal.

He was bested by such notable players as Robert Sacre, Tonike Shengaila, and Andre Drummond, each of whom stand at least 6’8”. His teammate, Harrison Barnes, was more than a second faster. What makes LeBron James and Russell Westbrook so devastating in transition is the fact that it only takes them two steps to reach max speed and fly past opponents. Marshall is not really agile enough to fly past anyone. In college, guards can run fast breaks like a quarterback. Their wings fill the lanes like wide receivers on deep post routes, and they can make decisions from the mid-court line, often choosing to pass the ball ahead to a streaking teammate. In the NBA, however, everyone is lightning fast compared to players in college. Ball handlers leading the break have to keep up with the players filling the lanes instead of lagging behind. Thus far, Marshall has not shown the ability to lead the break this way. He often lags behind which leads to turnovers and missed transition opportunities.

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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#26 » by TASTIC » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:23 am

I can't believe there was enough footage of him to make a mix!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqe-13YOcIU
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Post#27 » by Revived » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:37 am

TASTIC wrote:I can't believe there was enough footage of him to make a mix!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqe-13YOcIU

Lol its probably cause they spent the first 30 seconds of the video of just showing him talking to the coaches and players on the court and then they did a replay for every single one of his highlights to stretch it out to 6 mins haha.

But that move he made at 1:00 against OKC was very nice.
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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#28 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:48 pm

TASTIC wrote:I can't believe there was enough footage of him to make a mix!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqe-13YOcIU


I felt like I was watching a rerun of golden girls with rap music. That was soooo boring
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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#29 » by SILERtheDEFILER » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:55 pm

Kendal Marshall is Austin Rivers minus the swag
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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#30 » by Twuan89 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:53 pm

From what I saw in the summer league Kendall Marshall needs a lot to work on.

Even though he improved on his jumper a little he needs to be more consistent, and he needs to improve his defense too.
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Re: BSOTS: Marshall doesn't think he needs to improve 

Post#31 » by bigfoot » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:27 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KButter5/status/361667656287404033[/tweet]

Apparently Kendall is closely following the Boris Diaw training regimen.
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