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The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

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What should the Bucks do with Jennings?

Offer him the QO
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Offer him a long-term deal
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Let him walk
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1681 » by SkilesTheLimit » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:31 pm

LittleRooster wrote:I have no idea why anyone would want Jennings back on this team. Let alone at 8 mill per year


This.

Teague is better. Just ask the Bucks, who prioritized Teague over BJ.

And he got $8 mil/yr. How anyone can be proposing BJ gets more than that is asinine.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1682 » by LittleRooster » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:36 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I have no idea why anyone would want Jennings back on this team. Let alone at 8 mill per year



23 year old PG's still have a chance to get better and he'd be movable at this figure.


He's an undersized SG who hasn't shown any sort of evidence that he will get better.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1683 » by EastSideBucksFan » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:41 pm

LittleRooster wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I have no idea why anyone would want Jennings back on this team. Let alone at 8 mill per year



23 year old PG's still have a chance to get better and he'd be movable at this figure.


He's an undersized SG who hasn't shown any sort of evidence that he will get better.




Except improving his FG% by almost 5% in his first 3 seasons.....
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1684 » by LittleRooster » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:47 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:

23 year old PG's still have a chance to get better and he'd be movable at this figure.


He's an undersized SG who hasn't shown any sort of evidence that he will get better.




Except improving his FG% by almost 5% in his first 3 seasons.....


He's "up" to 41% now...he really had no where to go but up.

In no way should that be a reason to resign him at any long term extension
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1685 » by Thunder Muscle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:52 pm

If the Bucks truly feel Brandon can be a solid point guard in this league, not even elite, and lead a team to 50 wins in the near future if surrounded with the right players, I have no issues with them offering him 8M/year. But I want them to do their homework and really commit to believing he has that in him, and mentally is committed to this team. If they have any doubts about his ability going forward and/or his attitude as a leader/teammate, you cannot under any circumstances give this guy an extended contract at that price amount. I don't care if you don't get anything for him nor if you don't have a long term replacement, you have to cut your losses and move on. Ridnour can fill in for a year and you take your shot next year in the draft of free agency.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1686 » by LedZepp007 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:32 pm

Jennings walking or the QO is a disaster for both the Bucks and Brandon. Huge, huge risk for Brandon, we end up losing another asset with nothing in return. The best option now is a S&T or a reasonable extension.mid consider offering him what we offered Teague. 4/28-4/32. Ultimately, we have all of the bargaining power. I hope Brandon realizes this. If he comes back on the QO, we don't have to play him, which would destroy any hope of him getting big money.


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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1687 » by SpursNBucks » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:40 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:Jennings walking or the QO is a disaster for both the Bucks and Brandon. Huge, huge risk for Brandon, we end up losing another asset with nothing in return. The best option now is a S&T or a reasonable extension.mid consider offering him what we offered Teague. 4/28-4/32. Ultimately, we have all of the bargaining power. I hope Brandon realizes this. If he comes back on the QO, we don't have to play him, which would destroy any hope of him getting big money.


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I know a lot of people have said sign Jennings to a Teague kind of deal if you can and I am dead against that. I would rather him walk after a QO season and get nothing back. Maybe even him going over to Europe to play this year- I feel a BJ departue would be addition by subtraction at this point.

S+T really is the priority at this point. I would never offer him the Teague deal because then you could be stuck with him for years and he's just not a fit here, plus you probably have some bad blood between both sides at this point- potential cancer.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1688 » by bango_the_buck » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:42 pm

SkilesTheLimit wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I have no idea why anyone would want Jennings back on this team. Let alone at 8 mill per year


This.

Teague is better. Just ask the Bucks, who prioritized Teague over BJ.

And he got $8 mil/yr. How anyone can be proposing BJ gets more than that is asinine.


This is a misrepresentation of the facts that needs to stop. If BJ were open to signing for $8 mil/yr, the Bucks would have inked him to a long-term deal a long time ago and there would have been no Teague offer sheet. Given BJ's contract demands and apparent unwillingness to budge, the Bucks preferred signing Teague at $8 mil/yr versus BJ at $12-14 mil/yr.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1689 » by LedZepp007 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:42 pm

SpursNBucks wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:Jennings walking or the QO is a disaster for both the Bucks and Brandon. Huge, huge risk for Brandon, we end up losing another asset with nothing in return. The best option now is a S&T or a reasonable extension.mid consider offering him what we offered Teague. 4/28-4/32. Ultimately, we have all of the bargaining power. I hope Brandon realizes this. If he comes back on the QO, we don't have to play him, which would destroy any hope of him getting big money.


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I know a lot of people have said sign Jennings to a Teague kind of deal if you can and I am dead against that. I would rather him walk after a QO season and get nothing back. Maybe even him going over to Europe to play this year- I feel a BJ departue would be addition by subtraction at this point.

S+T really is the priority at this point. I would never offer him the Teague deal because then you could be stuck with him for years and he's just not a fit here, plus you probably have some bad blood between both sides at this point- potential cancer.


We have to hold on to our assets, even if they aren't a fit now. But, I totally agree in that we have to S&T him.


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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1690 » by Chuck Diesel » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:16 pm

I wonder if Jennings would accept a 2 year, 12-13 million dollar deal to play on a contender. Could change his perception and dramatically boost his value if he's playing in June. Makes him more appealing in a sign & trade.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1691 » by randy84 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:19 pm

SkilesTheLimit wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I have no idea why anyone would want Jennings back on this team. Let alone at 8 mill per year


This.

Teague is better. Just ask the Bucks, who prioritized Teague over BJ.

And he got $8 mil/yr. How anyone can be proposing BJ gets more than that is asinine.


Bucks prioritized BJ at $10 million per. When he didn't take it, they then prioritized Teague at $8 million per. Just to be factual correct.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1692 » by yoshii8 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:23 pm

BJ3 will accept the QO, and then blow up and have an unbelievable season. Then he will get a max contract and revert back to the old BJ3. As a Bucks fan, this process is inevitable.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1693 » by theFireBlanket » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:29 pm

yoshii8 wrote:BJ3 will accept the QO, and then blow up and have an unbelievable season. Then he will get a max contract and revert back to the old BJ3. As a Bucks fan, this process is inevitable.


Why would Brandon want to return to Milwaukee if he had an "unbelievable" season? Someone else would match that max deal and I'm guessing he'd prefer to leave after what's happened this off-season.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1694 » by hamslam » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:48 pm

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yoshii8 wrote:BJ3 will accept the QO, and then blow up and have an unbelievable season. Then he will get a max contract and revert back to the old BJ3. As a Bucks fan, this process is inevitable.


Why would Brandon want to return to Milwaukee if he had an "unbelievable" season? Someone else would match that max deal and I'm guessing he'd prefer to leave after what's happened this off-season.



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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1695 » by yoshii8 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:59 pm

hamslam wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
yoshii8 wrote:BJ3 will accept the QO, and then blow up and have an unbelievable season. Then he will get a max contract and revert back to the old BJ3. As a Bucks fan, this process is inevitable.


Why would Brandon want to return to Milwaukee if he had an "unbelievable" season? Someone else would match that max deal and I'm guessing he'd prefer to leave after what's happened this off-season.



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Exactly. We would be able to offer him the most years and money.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1696 » by DickCunningham » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:01 pm

Dribble, dribble, dribble, off-balance shot. No thanks. B.J., be gone.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1697 » by theFireBlanket » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:02 pm

If he turned into a max player then he'd be able to get $ in endorsements and earn a new contract. If Brandon somehow elevated his game he's going to remain motivated to maintain a high level of play.

The only way he stays in Milwaukee in this hypothetical situation is if no one else is willing to offer him a 4 year max deal or perhaps facilitate a sign & trade 5 year max.

It's very unlikely that he does have an "unbelievable" season.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1698 » by engelmartin » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:03 pm

DickCunningham wrote:Dribble, dribble, dribble, off-balance shot. No thanks. B.J., be gone.

Halfway through last season it seems like he stopped shooting his crappy floater in favor of getting blocked and embarrassed on all layup attempts instead. #brandonjenningsmemories

Is the reason it's taking so long for us to get our "starter" SF the fact that it's in a sign and trade involving Jennings?
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1699 » by eagle13 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:15 pm

I'd put 2 offers out & let him choose

3y/21mil - player option 3rd yr
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3y/30mil - team option 3rd yr

either way - avoids QO, trade approval. Signed we trade him at deadline

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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30) 

Post#1700 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:42 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:23 year old PG's still have a chance to get better and he'd be movable at this figure.

Debatable.
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