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Re: The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread 

Post#1021 » by hands11 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:01 am

GhostsOfGil wrote:Beno Udrich is still unsigned. Probably could have got him for the vet min.


Would be cool to have a guy named BENO on the team. That's worth the vet min in itself.
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Post#1022 » by hands11 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:05 am

jivelikenice wrote:Why is Childress being discussed? Did I miss something?

The Blair news was disappointing. He immediately would have been the top reserve. It was a definite mistake to jump the gun on signing Maynor and using up the bi-annual exception.

I wonder if the Wizards offered Blair a minimum deal or if their interest in him was predicated on moving one or two of the young pfs? Bottom line is the contract to Maynor and Booker/Vesely/Singleton being on the roster is severely limiting our ability to maneuver in this secondary phase of free agency. At what point do they consider a buyout of a guy lkee Singleton?


Did signing Maynor really have anything to do with Blair, or is it those other players eating up slots that was the real issue.

It very likely would have taken cutting Singleton. Which would be fine by me. Would they owe him just next year at $1,707,720M ?


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A lot of teams offered DeJuan Blair a similar contract, but he's likely going to the Dallas Mavericks because he'll play more minutes there.
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Re: The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread 

Post#1023 » by hands11 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:16 am

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TGW wrote:Josh Childress has interest from 3 teams--no doubt in my mind the Wizards is one of them. Ernie has a boner for this guy.

This has got to be the 8th annual Josh Childress to the Wizards rumor.


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Shams Charania of Real GM reports that the 6-foot-8 wing will play for either the Philadelphia 76ers, Sacramento Kings or an unknown mystery team for the league minimum next season

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Come on people. Thats some serious spin. He has two teams interested and they are floating this mystery team idea out there to draw interest and speculation from beat writers to get his name talked about by more teams.

Great marketing, but it doesn't mean anything. He has two teams interested.

The Sixers and the Kings... Owwwwwwwwww

One is likely the worst team in the league this year and the other is the Kings.. Yeah, I would do what I could to get my name out there also if that were my only two options.
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Post#1024 » by verbal8 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:25 am

jivelikenice wrote:Why is Childress being discussed? Did I miss something?

The Blair news was disappointing. He immediately would have been the top reserve. It was a definite mistake to jump the gun on signing Maynor and using up the bi-annual exception.

I wonder if the Wizards offered Blair a minimum deal or if their interest in him was predicated on moving one or two of the young pfs? Bottom line is the contract to Maynor and Booker/Vesely/Singleton being on the roster is severely limiting our ability to maneuver in this secondary phase of free agency. At what point do they consider a buyout of a guy lkee Singleton?


If Blair signs for the minimum to Dallas, IMO it makes the Maynor deal look terrible. While I wouldn't expect many players to choose the Wizards over the Mavs, it would be tough to take roughly 1 million vs. 2 million.
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Re: The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread 

Post#1025 » by Nivek » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:39 am

jivelikenice wrote:Why is Childress being discussed? Did I miss something?


Mid-summer boredom.

Pure silliness.

No one actually wants Childress on the Wizards at this point.
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Post#1026 » by jivelikenice » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:43 am

I know Jamison has been discussed before BUT is he really that bad as a reserve forward given what we currently have on the roster? His horrific defense would be minimized by playing against reserves and playing next to Okafor or Néne. He at least adds some perimeter skill to a set of 4's who absolutely have no ability to hit a J consistently and he can score without having plays being run for him. Now as a type that I cringe at the notion of Jamison shooting a three with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Any other 4's out there?
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Post#1027 » by mhd » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:49 am

jivelikenice wrote:I know Jamison has been discussed before BUT is he really that bad as a reserve forward given what we currently have on the roster? His horrific defense would be minimized by playing against reserves and playing next to Okafor or Néne. He at least adds some perimeter skill to a set of 4's who absolutely have no ability to hit a J consistently and he can score without having plays being run for him. Now as a type that I cringe at the notion of Jamison shooting a three with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Any other 4's out there?



I thought Jamison was talking to the Clips. Anyways, Jamison is an absolute pathetic defender who gives NO EFFORT. I posted a Wiz video when they played against LAL in LA. Jamison was giving NO EFFORT on defense. I'd rather player Singleton than Jamison.
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Post#1028 » by jivelikenice » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:53 am

If yore talking James Singketon I'd say yes. Chris Singleton is just terrible.
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Post#1029 » by dangermouse » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:27 am

I'd take James Singleton over the leader of men in a heartbeat, if those are the options.

Saying that, what jive asked: is Jamison really that bad as a reserve forward given what we currently have on the roster?

Sadly I think he is. He'll look for a contender though. To be honest, I do like the idea of Jamison coming back and playing out his career as a backup big here. But that is just pure nostalgia talking, not basketball reasons.
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Post#1030 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:07 pm

dangermouse wrote:I'd take James Singleton over the leader of men in a heartbeat, if those are the options.

Saying that, what jive asked: is Jamison really that bad as a reserve forward given what we currently have on the roster?

Sadly I think he is. He'll look for a contender though. To be honest, I do like the idea of Jamison coming back and playing out his career as a backup big here. But that is just pure nostalgia talking, not basketball reasons.


Anyone know if James Singleton is available?

I'd be happy locking him up as our 15th player.
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Post#1031 » by payitforward » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:36 pm

hands11 wrote:...I just pissed my paints reading Montys Glue Gu post..

You'll probably have to use an extra coat, Hands, now you've done that.
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Post#1032 » by payitforward » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:38 pm

deneem4 wrote:I post off a phone...I dont have time ro sit and worry about spell checking and sht...u comprehend every thing im saying so why critique if? Grow tf up,

Actually, no, I don't comprehend every thing you are saying -- but it doesn't have anything to do w/ the phone.
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Post#1033 » by Nivek » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:39 pm

payitforward wrote:
deneem4 wrote:I post off a phone...I dont have time ro sit and worry about spell checking and sht...u comprehend every thing im saying so why critique if? Grow tf up,

Actually, no, I don't comprehend every thing you are saying -- but it doesn't have anything to do w/ the phone.


Other folks sometimes post off a phone and will take a moment to look at what they've typed before hitting "submit." Out of courtesy for those who will be reading the post.
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Post#1034 » by WashWiz54 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:05 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
dangermouse wrote:I'd take James Singleton over the leader of men in a heartbeat, if those are the options.

Saying that, what jive asked: is Jamison really that bad as a reserve forward given what we currently have on the roster?

Sadly I think he is. He'll look for a contender though. To be honest, I do like the idea of Jamison coming back and playing out his career as a backup big here. But that is just pure nostalgia talking, not basketball reasons.


Anyone know if James Singleton is available?

I'd be happy locking him up as our 15th player.


I think he's much better than a 15th man. I'd argue he's rotation quality after seeing him here a season ago. He hit the mid-range with consistency, provided good D, rebounded well, and hit his free-throws. I'm surprised players like Daye, Gomes, and (to a lesser extent) Blair have been signed before him.
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Post#1035 » by Nivek » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:18 pm

Singleton played 262 total minutes for the Wizards that season. That's not enough playing time to say he did anything consistently. His offensive efficiency was MUCH higher during that stint with the Wizards than it was the rest of his career. His non-scoring stats were about the same as his career norms.

Consistency on mid-range jumpers? From 10-16 feet, he had 8 attempts -- total. He made 3.

He had 23 total long 2pt attempts (16ft to 3pt line) -- he made 11, which is a good percentage, but not enough volume to say he was consistent.

Combine the two and we're still at only 31 attempts. His 45% from 10ft to the 3pt line isn't bad, but it's only 31 attempts.

I don't think any Singleton backer would want to add in his shooting from 3-10 feet or from 3pt range -- he was 0-5 from 3-10 feet and 2-9 from 3pt range.

Add all the attempts (from 3ft and beyond) together and he shot 16-45 -- 35.5%.

He was excellent at-rim (25-30 -- 83%), but shot just 52.4% from that range the previous season on nearly three times as many attempts.
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Post#1036 » by tontoz » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:21 pm

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jivelikenice wrote:Why is Childress being discussed? Did I miss something?


Mid-summer boredom.

Pure silliness.

No one actually wants Childress on the Wizards at this point.



Not sure about that. Rico has been pining for Childress for years.
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Post#1037 » by LyricalRico » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:57 pm

tontoz wrote:Rico has been pining for Childress for years.


Well, I wouldn't exactly say 'pining'. It was more like looking for ways to help Ernie fulfill his dream. :D

Seriously, I did want Childress when he first came up for FA after his rookie contract in Atlanta. And when he went to Greece, I fully expected him to blow up. When that didn't happen, and he came back, I wasn't as enthusiastic. The deal he signed with Phoenix was definitely bad (although I'm sure I included in a trade scenario or two at some point LOL) and now the flame has officially died out.

My guess is that Ernie feels the same way. The Wiz haven't actually come up in the current rumors about Childress that I've seen. It's just been folks on this board having a little fun.
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Post#1038 » by jivelikenice » Thu Aug 1, 2013 5:45 am

Trying to think of some names for the final roster spot. The two needs are a stretch four and some backcourt scoring. Going back to the Webster signing I wonder if Ernie's preference is a talented guy who hasn't found his niche yet or would he go the vet route to help the playoff run.

Scoring guard- Roddy Beaubois, Leandro Barbosa
Forward- Jamison, Ivan Johnsn, A Harrington (if he's cut)

Any underachievers on rookie deals like Smgleton/Vesely available?

Edit...forgot to include Tyrus Thomas. It would be interesting to be on the other end of an amnesty case and reep the benefits of MJ paying the majority of his salary.
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Post#1039 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Aug 2, 2013 5:27 pm

jivelikenice wrote:Trying to think of some names for the final roster spot. The two needs are a stretch four and some backcourt scoring. Going back to the Webster signing I wonder if Ernie's preference is a talented guy who hasn't found his niche yet or would he go the vet route to help the playoff run.

Scoring guard- Roddy Beaubois, Leandro Barbosa
Forward- Jamison, Ivan Johnsn, A Harrington (if he's cut)

Any underachievers on rookie deals like Smgleton/Vesely available?

Edit...forgot to include Tyrus Thomas. It would be interesting to be on the other end of an amnesty case and reep the benefits of MJ paying the majority of his salary.


Al Harrington would make a bunch of sense.

What's James Singleton doing these days? He's a stretch four.
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Post#1040 » by jivelikenice » Fri Aug 2, 2013 5:29 pm

I think he signed with the Knicks late last season. Haven't heard anythinig since.

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