My thoughts on the dealio.

zeebneeb · Post #1 » by **zeebneeb** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:59 pm

This is an upgrade, plain and simple. Jennings has all-star potential, can be an excellent passer, and has great court vision. He can shoot the ball, and can drive the lane. His stats for shooting are low, but ill get to that in a minute.

This trade makes sense for these reasons;

1.)New coach. Cheeks isn't really inheriting anything. Its almost a brand new team, and he is the man in charge. No egos really, as all the players are young, save for Billups, and Rasheed, (one of wich is a coach on the bench, the other on the floor) and one(Jennings) has a lot to prove.

2.)Billups and Rasheed. This is huge. Jennings is a PG. A PG is supposed to be a floor general first and foremost, and Billups can teach him that. Rasheed is a bigman. Billups and Rasheed started together, and won a title together. They can teach Jennings, and Moose, and Drumstick about how to play off each other, and the fact that they won a title, only helps this dynamic. Everytime Jennings does something stupid, Billups can take him aside, and show him game film of him and rasheed, on how to do it right. Its an awesome dynamic, not to mention Rasheed can slap him upside the head a few times.

3.)Our bigs. Moose, Drumstick, and Smith is a fearsome front-court, and is a massive upgrade over what Jennings was playing with over in deer hunter land. He has many, many more options to pass to when he drives the lane, as all our bigs are going to always be around the basket. This should garner him at LEAST 2 more APG IF he looks for them on a consistent basis(Wich is where Billups and Rasheed come in to play coaching wise) Add in the fact that on the pick and roll with Moose, it could be just unstoppable. Jennings shot selection is going to improve just based on that alone. Moose is a hell of a passer, and that pick and roll man....

4.)Scoring. No way to deny it, Jennings can score the damn ball. He is an explosive scorer, and quite frankly, something this team needed badly. No other way to say it really.

Now, with all of that said, I am worried. We got a top TALENT at a bargain price, on a great contract, but what we also got was a boneheaded decision maker, that loves to get his own.

Can he, and his teammates help him reign in his own stupidity? Only time will tell. Can he learn to truly command a team, and make other players, like Moose, and drumstick better? Again, a question mark.

One thing I know for sure is this; Joe took a huge risk with this off-season. It is really similar to when we started grabbing RIP, Billups, and Rasheed. He seems to be taking near all-star level players from around the league again, and trying to mold them into an unstoppable force. Can he succeed again? I honestly have no idea. All I know is this; If this gamble of an off-season pays off, look out because this team is loaded with talent, and in a few years, could be a real force to be reckoned with.

I applaud his willingness to put it out on the line, and for the players and coaches, its time to put up or shut-up.

Grade A+ OR Grade F I really don't know.

ARoS · Post #2 » by **ARoS** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:09 pm

You said drumstick

Slackstring701 · Post #3 » by **Slackstring701** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:19 pm

B Jennings

vege · Post #4 » by **vege** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:58 pm

Why exactly you need to open a new thread to post it when we already have 10000 threads about the deal?

Post #5 » by **ajaX82** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:04 pm

vege wrote:Why exactly you need to open a new thread to post it when we already have 10000 threads about the deal?

And why exactly you feel the need to backseat moderate? If it's a problem, one of us will lock it up

zeebneeb · Post #6 » by **zeebneeb** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:06 pm

vege wrote:Why exactly you need to open a new thread to post it when we already have 10000 threads about the deal?

I see a lot of this lately. Is there some new rule about not opening threads, and having ONE big thread, with 100 post's? Why do people care? Does it make you angry somehow? I'm confused. Less activity in threads, but more post's?

I personally love seeing new threads on the board. That's me though.

MrBigShot · Post #7 » by **MrBigShot** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:24 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
vege wrote:Why exactly you need to open a new thread to post it when we already have 10000 threads about the deal?
I see a lot of this lately. Is there some new rule about not opening threads, and having ONE big thread, with 100 post's? Why do people care? Does it make you angry somehow? I'm confused. Less activity in threads, but more post's?

I personally love seeing new threads on the board. That's me though.

Word. The activity on the board this off season has been great. Joe D has had a great off season imo, given what he had to work with. This situation has tons of potential.

Jodi · Post #8 » by **Jodi** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:21 pm

Drumstick!!.

vege · Post #9 » by **vege** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:26 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
vege wrote:Why exactly you need to open a new thread to post it when we already have 10000 threads about the deal?
I see a lot of this lately. Is there some new rule about not opening threads, and having ONE big thread, with 100 post's? Why do people care? Does it make you angry somehow? I'm confused. Less activity in threads, but more post's?

I personally love seeing new threads on the board. That's me though.

It's common sense. There are at least a hundred of posters who post in here, can you imagine what would happen if all of us would open a new thread to express our opinion on the same subject?

Collymore · Post #10 » by **Collymore** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:49 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
vege wrote:Why exactly you need to open a new thread to post it when we already have 10000 threads about the deal?
I see a lot of this lately. Is there some new rule about not opening threads, and having ONE big thread, with 100 post's? Why do people care? Does it make you angry somehow? I'm confused. Less activity in threads, but more post's?

I personally love seeing new threads on the board. That's me though.

You should have posted this answer in a new thread.

zeebneeb · Post #11 » by **zeebneeb** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:33 pm

vege wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
vege wrote:Why exactly you need to open a new thread to post it when we already have 10000 threads about the deal?
I see a lot of this lately. Is there some new rule about not opening threads, and having ONE big thread, with 100 post's? Why do people care? Does it make you angry somehow? I'm confused. Less activity in threads, but more post's?

I personally love seeing new threads on the board. That's me though.

It's common sense. There are at least a hundred of posters who post in here, can you imagine what would happen if all of us would open a new thread to express our opinion on the same subject?

Yeah, the board would be more active.

It is bothersome though that people actually take time out of their day to visit a discussion forum, only to not discuss topics, but the creation of topics. Sad really.

DBC10 · Post #12 » by **DBC10** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:48 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
vege wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:I see a lot of this lately. Is there some new rule about not opening threads, and having ONE big thread, with 100 post's? Why do people care? Does it make you angry somehow? I'm confused. Less activity in threads, but more post's?

I personally love seeing new threads on the board. That's me though.

It's common sense. There are at least a hundred of posters who post in here, can you imagine what would happen if all of us would open a new thread to express our opinion on the same subject?
Yeah, the board would be more active.

It is bothersome though that people actually take time out of their day to visit a discussion forum, only to not discuss topics, but the creation of topics. Sad really.

You're fine. The mods are cool with it, so there's literally no issue.

And I agree he took the risk this off-season. I don't know if it's on the same magnitude as the Rip, Billups, Sheed signings, but if we can mimic that while having Drummond and Monroe, we should be set.

DCintheD · Post #13 » by **DCintheD** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 12:08 am

alex0000 wrote:You said drumstick

yea what the hell?

Post #14 » by **theBigLip** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 12:11 am

A couple of comments on the creating of new threads.

If someone is going to put a significant post up, they can start a new thread and they can comment on a new opinion. Sometimes it even helps. For example, we have a "new trade" thread that is now becoming an Eric Gordon thread. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes these new threads get things back focused on the real topic.

vege · Post #15 » by **vege** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 12:14 am

zeebneeb wrote:It is bothersome though that people actually take time out of their day to visit a discussion forum, only to not discuss topics, but the creation of topics. Sad really.

Yeap it's better when people actually take time out of their day to be sarcastic through the internet :roll:

zeebneeb · Post #16 » by **zeebneeb** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 12:19 am

vege wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:It is bothersome though that people actually take time out of their day to visit a discussion forum, only to not discuss topics, but the creation of topics. Sad really.

Yeap it's better when people actually take time out of their day to be sarcastic through the internet

Sarcasm? Not so much. An observation? Correct.

I started a topic, you derailed it into what it is now. Maybe if you had become part of the intended discussion, it could have been an interesting thread. If the mods want to lock this little nightmare up now, I have zero problem with it.

Post #17 » by **ajaX82** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 12:49 am

zeebneeb wrote:
vege wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:It is bothersome though that people actually take time out of their day to visit a discussion forum, only to not discuss topics, but the creation of topics. Sad really.

Yeap it's better when people actually take time out of their day to be sarcastic through the internet
Sarcasm? Not so much. An observation? Correct.

I started a topic, you derailed it into what it is now. Maybe if you had become part of the intended discussion, it could have been an interesting thread. If the mods want to lock this little nightmare up now, I have zero problem with it.

And a nightmare it has in fact become, so yes, it shall be locked good sir.

theBigLip wrote:A couple of comments on the creating of new threads.

If someone is going to put a significant post up, they can start a new thread and they can comment on a new opinion. Sometimes it even helps. For example, we have a "new trade" thread that is now becoming an Eric Gordon thread. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes these new threads get things back focused on the real topic.

Exactly. I didn't mind this thread at all because I was hoping it could take things in a slightly different or unique direction. A thread about the presser for the signing isn't necessary so much because that can be easily asked and answered in 1 exchange in the main thread; not much to build on. I hoped we could move part the bickering and was proven wrong.

To sum up, please don't backseat mod. Multiple threads on one topic are OK, but make it worthwhile. Cheers