The 2013 free agency thread.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #941 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:44 pm

Pistons fans are counting on Billups to be able to mentor Jennings into being a better player. We will have to see how that works out, but *if* he improves shot selection slightly and passes more then Jennings will be a huge upgrade. OTOH it could be a huge problem if he keeps taking long 2s and has on again off again passing nights. It's an interesting move/

doc.end · Post #942 » by **doc.end** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:53 am

They are free falling losing their future (nothing new in Detroit nowadays). They just costing us a better pick (or they traying hard to do so) by Dumars bailing out himself.

I am said for Bucks fans, they don't deserve to have to tie their hopes with Knight.

Post #943 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:26 am

how long before bucks fans start talking about brandon knight being better than kemba?

actually, i hope bucks fans are quiet about knight, because he is a guy that is easy to root for. it was the piston fans that made me root against him.

and this is perfect, because i cant stand jennings or josh smith.

Liver_Pooty · Post #944 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:59 am

fatlever wrote:how long before bucks fans start talking about brandon knight being better than kemba?

actually, i hope bucks fans are quiet about knight, because he is a guy that is easy to root for. it was the piston fans that made me root against him.

and this is perfect, because i cant stand jennings or josh smith.

Lol you and me both. I hope Knight absolutely tears it up next year.

Eoghan · Post #945 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:39 am

Classic Dumars. That team will either either gel amazingly and make noise in the playoffs or (more likely) completely implode into a treadmill disaster. Sheed will probably lead the league in techs, still.

lmcguir5 · Post #946 » by **lmcguir5** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:30 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
fatlever wrote:how long before bucks fans start talking about brandon knight being better than kemba?

actually, i hope bucks fans are quiet about knight, because he is a guy that is easy to root for. it was the piston fans that made me root against him.

and this is perfect, because i cant stand jennings or josh smith.

Lol you and me both. I hope Knight absolutely tears it up next year.

Detroit fans have made me forever hate Brandon Knight. I think I'll always root against him, unless God forbid he end up on the Bobcats

Liver_Pooty · Post #947 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:38 am

lmcguir5 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
fatlever wrote:how long before bucks fans start talking about brandon knight being better than kemba?

actually, i hope bucks fans are quiet about knight, because he is a guy that is easy to root for. it was the piston fans that made me root against him.

and this is perfect, because i cant stand jennings or josh smith.

Lol you and me both. I hope Knight absolutely tears it up next year.

Detroit fans have made me forever hate Brandon Knight. I think I'll always root against him, unless God forbid he end up on the Bobcats

They've made me feel the same way about Drummond.

Lottery_Mafia · Post #948 » by **Lottery_Mafia** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:22 pm

Sam Amico dropped another free agency target in his chat today, he actually answered my question:

12:12
Comment From The Lottery Mafia
HornCats Question: Have you heard any rumors for last roster spots apart from Devin Ebanks? Anything else of note about the HornCats we should know?
12:13

Sam Amico: Re-signing Gerald Henderson was important. Sounds like they're now ready to let team grow from within. I haven't heard anything more about Ebanks. Have heard the Cats (sorry, HornCats) may reach out to Darius Morris, too.

Sam Amico: Bucks and Hawks also eyeing Ebanks, from what I've heard, by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjlMlLnwsBE

JMAC3 · Post #949 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:26 pm

I like both those pickups....

Ebanks can even play a little 4 in small ball. Solid midrange shooter as well. Would be decent pickup for depth in case MKG were to miss some games.

Morris is a bigger pg at 6-4 and can be a solid playmaker. Not a great shooter, but always thought he would excel more in the NBA after watching him at Michigan.

mrknowitall215 · Post #950 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:46 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I like both those pickups....

Ebanks can even play a little 4 in small ball. Solid midrange shooter as well. Would be decent pickup for depth in case MKG were to miss some games.

Morris is a bigger pg at 6-4 and can be a solid playmaker. Not a great shooter, but always thought he would excel more in the NBA after watching him at Michigan.

I'm indifferent towards a possible Devin Ebanks signing, but I guess he's not bad for a end of the bench type of guy as a 3rd SF that can play some PF. I thought Ebanks would've been a quality player in the league by now, but he's been the same disappointment as he was at West Virginia. Regardless, he has talent & size, but he still just hasn't put it together yet

However, I would love the Darius Morris signing. Morris has enough upside to be an option to keep around as a backup PG in case Ramon Sessions opts to leave when his contract expire next offseason. The other reason why I would like Morris is because he would offer something different as depth, being that he's a pass-first prototype on offense with the potential to be an great defender

JT2006 · Post #951 » by **JT2006** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:25 pm

devin ebanks is not an impact signing.

Liver_Pooty · Post #952 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 2:29 am

Seth Curry badly wants on the team

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... phen-curry

catch20two · Post #953 » by **catch20two** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 2:45 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Seth Curry badly wants on the team

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... phen-curry

Sign him up!

Post #954 » by **fatlever** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 3:02 am

for once i am in favor of nepotism in the franchise. curry would be worth the gamble as a 3rd pg.

HornetJail · Post #955 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 3:38 am

I'm amazed he didn't get drafted on name recognition alone. I want him on here for sure. He really can't be worse than Ben Gordon.

Like seriously he really can't be: http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2013.html

Nanogeek · Post #956 » by **Nanogeek** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:10 am

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... rades-east

Chad Ford at ESPN Insider has developed grades for each team's offseason moves. He gave the Bobcats a C- saying:

Good news, Bobcats fans. You are no longer the favorite to be the worst team in the NBA.

The bad news? It has more to do with the historic tank job happening in Philly than anything Charlotte did this summer.

Adding Jefferson gives the Bobcats the strong low-post scoring option that they have lacked the past few years. Zeller gives them a young stretch 4 who could be a terrific complement for a player like Jefferson -- if Clifford can become the first coach in the NBA to persuade Big Al to pass the ball out of the block.

But the Jazz let Jefferson walk this summer exactly because their young players couldn't make the next leap with him on the floor. While he and Zeller, combined with the handful of East teams in bad shape, should equal a few more wins this season, it will come at a cost. Getting marginally better won't push the Bobcats into the playoffs, but it will take away pingpong balls in the best draft of the next decade.

What the Bobcats really need is a star to build around. No one on the roster is up for the challenge, and their summer strategy appears to be hurting their odds of adding that guy next year.

I completely agree with his analysis. Signing Jefferson was a bonehead move. Click on the link above to see what he said about all the other teams.

Lottery_Mafia · Post #957 » by **Lottery_Mafia** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 1:25 pm

Seth Curry Analysis

1) Physicality- Seth's body is almost identical to that of his brothers Steph, if you look at their pre draft measurements both stand at 6ft 3inc in shoes, with a wingspan between 6ft 3inc - 6ft 4inc. Even their weight are only two pounds apart. This shows that the argument of "Seth is too small for the NBA is incorrect".

2) Skill Level - Due to Steph's physical limits he was forced to play pointguard in the NBA, he was able to improve his ball handling to an extremely high level and also improve his court vision. Seth has never been as strong ball handler as his brother and never quite had the same unselfish aspect to his game. However, due to his injury Seth was forced to play off the ball in his final year to, this made him seem slightly one dimensional (which can be a good thing, ask Steve Novak or Jason Kapono). Would Seth be able to improve to the same extent as his brother? Unlikely.

3) Position- Due to Seth's size he would be limited to playing the PG position for the short term, unless a team decided to go small. Even with some of the smaller twos such as Ben Gordon (6ft 3) OJ Mayo (6ft 4) and Wade (6ft 4) they all have a strong amount of upper body strength and/or athleticism. There are very few SG in the league with Curry's mix of size, thin frame and below average athleticism if any. He could possible become stronger, but after three years in the NBA his brother Steph has struggled to really fill out at all, this is the kind of thing that does carry from one family member to another.

4) Fit - I think Curry would be a low risk option as our third string PG, he would have no pressure to perform and could take some time adjusting to the one spot in training camp and practice. His three point shooting would be a definite plus as our roster has just one player who shot above 35% from three last year.

Overall, I would sign him as a 15th man, he fills a need while keeping the fanbase happy. The guy we sign instead of him is never going to really contribute that much anyway, so whats the harm in trying? He obviously wants to be here and comes from a great programme at Duke where they learn how to play the right way.

Devils Advocate: Plus if he stayed on it could help lure Steph back to Charlotte

(I am aware this won't happen!)

James Gatz · Post #958 » by **James Gatz** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 2:03 pm

Great post mafia. I'm in pretty much agreement with that analysis. If we do sign him the fan base needs to accept he won't contribute much at all.

The 3pt shooting is what appeals to me about him the most.

lmcguir5 · Post #959 » by **lmcguir5** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 2:06 pm

Nanogeek wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9517736/nba-offseason-grades-east

Chad Ford at ESPN Insider has developed grades for each team's offseason moves. He gave the Bobcats a C- saying:

Good news, Bobcats fans. You are no longer the favorite to be the worst team in the NBA.

The bad news? It has more to do with the historic tank job happening in Philly than anything Charlotte did this summer.

Adding Jefferson gives the Bobcats the strong low-post scoring option that they have lacked the past few years. Zeller gives them a young stretch 4 who could be a terrific complement for a player like Jefferson -- if Clifford can become the first coach in the NBA to persuade Big Al to pass the ball out of the block.

But the Jazz let Jefferson walk this summer exactly because their young players couldn't make the next leap with him on the floor. While he and Zeller, combined with the handful of East teams in bad shape, should equal a few more wins this season, it will come at a cost. Getting marginally better won't push the Bobcats into the playoffs, but it will take away pingpong balls in the best draft of the next decade.

What the Bobcats really need is a star to build around. No one on the roster is up for the challenge, and their summer strategy appears to be hurting their odds of adding that guy next year.

I completely agree with his analysis. Signing Jefferson was a bonehead move. Click on the link above to see what he said about all the other teams.

It's completely ludicrous to believe that Jefferson was a lateral move. We legitimately got better as a team and not just because other teams got worse. Why are you such a self-deprecating Bobcats fan? If you don't have hope, you don't have anything and I personally have a lot of hope for the upcoming year. We're going to be better out of virtue of the team getting better, coaching, personnel and attitude wise.

mcaponi2 · Post #960 » by **mcaponi2** » Thu Aug 1, 2013 4:50 pm

Completely agree with you. This team has heart and a chip on their shoulder and you can tell they are practically crawling out of their skin wanting to show it. I think Detroit made the Brandon Knight move because they are still kicking themselves for passing on Kemba.