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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#21 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:18 pm

He's an idiot racist. Thinking doesn't come easy for people like that.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#22 » by BuckFan25226 » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:23 pm

emunney wrote:Let's take a step back and refocus on Cooper himself. He obviously knows what he did was wrong. He's ashamed of what he did. HE thinks it's a big deal. It seems like he understands why it's a big deal. But he still did it. I'd be interested to know wtf he was thinking about when he said what he said.




Assuming he's not racist.

He was probably hammered, upset....and....well we all know that usually isn't a recipe for making wise decisions.

Has anyone ever been upset enough to just wanna say something that offends someone else for the sake of pissing them off?? I know I have, I do it to my wife all the time :D

Seriously though, he made a bad mistake. Like I said before, it's the tone it was said in, if he was clowning around using the word in playful way, I'm not sure it would be as big of a deal. But he said it with anger and malice, which is why there is such an outrage over this.

Trying to look at it from the perspective of a black teammate of his. Even if you forgive him, there is always the thought in the back of your mind that your friend/teammate thinks less of you because the color of your skin.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#23 » by Lippo » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:40 pm

If TMZ caught Carmello Anthony outside a club talking trash to a white guy, get outta here cracker, damn white boy thinks ^T&*^&*, do you think the Knicks would fine him or cut him?

Its not that Cooper wasnt wrong, he obviously was, but I think he is more scrutinzed for saying it than a black guy making a racial slure would have been.
If he had said it on the field or in an interview, then fine/suspend him, but in a drunken moment, caught by a cell phone camera, silly.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#24 » by crkone » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:40 pm

Moving more towards using the "a" instead of the "er" (racist) at the end, isn't allowing one race to say a word but not another..... inherently racist? Really any idiot can say what they want and suffer the consequences but if we just moved our society away from the beginning of those words we would be far better.

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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#25 » by El Duderino » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:56 pm

emunney wrote:Let's take a step back and refocus on Cooper himself. He obviously knows what he did was wrong. He's ashamed of what he did. HE thinks it's a big deal. It seems like he understands why it's a big deal. But he still did it. I'd be interested to know wtf he was thinking about when he said what he said.


Can you just imagine the amount of panic that hit him when he found out the video of him saying that hit the net?

I have no idea how exactly his black teammates will react to to Cooper's words, but i know if i was him, i'd feel awkward and nervous as hell the first time i entered the locker room. Not so much that the black players would start beating his assss, more so how they'll simply look at him given the context how of he made his comment. It certainly didn't sound like something that he hasn't used before around other whites and instead just slipped out of his mouth in that instance.

I also wonder who put the video online? Was it a friend or acquaintance?
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Re: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#26 » by humanrefutation » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:58 pm

emunney wrote:You are truly ignorant.

The big deal is that the word is hurtful and offensive to tens of millions of people. It's not a punchline. It's a word with a deep and extremely painful historical context. A history from which we haven't fully recovered, and which is really not very long ago, particularly given the failures of Reconstruction and the subsequent state-sanctioned racism (Jim Crow, etc.).

There is no such experience associated with racial slurs against white people. There is no power behind them.

Racism requires power. It's adorable that you think scholarships for black people or solidarity among the black community is a problem. Wake up. White people are ridiculously privileged.


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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#27 » by humanrefutation » Thu Aug 1, 2013 9:04 pm

Cooper is a moron, and the fact that he was drunk isn't an excuse in my eyes. If anything, it only confirms that he has these deep seeded notions that only came out when alcohol took away his filter.

But, I don't believe that someone who says something horribly racist has to be irreparably tainted by it. His apology - which came off as sincere - was a good start. He'll have to work in that locker room to regain the faith and trust of his teammates, and of the community at large.

If he sincerely tries to better himself, then I wish the best for him. But for anyone to cry "DOUBLE STANDARD" here is so blinded by their privilege that they lack historical and present-day context.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#28 » by El Duderino » Thu Aug 1, 2013 9:07 pm

Lippo wrote:If TMZ caught Carmello Anthony outside a club talking trash to a white guy, get outta here cracker, damn white boy thinks ^T&*^&*, do you think the Knicks would fine him or cut him?

Its not that Cooper wasnt wrong, he obviously was, but I think he is more scrutinzed for saying it than a black guy making a racial slure would have been.
If he had said it on the field or in an interview, then fine/suspend him, but in a drunken moment, caught by a cell phone camera, silly.


Come on Lippo, how can you be this ignorant?

With good reason, there isn't a more inflammatory word out there than **** when used by a white person in the manner that Cooper used it. Context is extremely important when it comes to that word and that's why Cooper is being correctly ripped on so harshly.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#29 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu Aug 1, 2013 9:12 pm

IBTL - Can't believe this thread has lasted so long.
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Post#30 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Aug 1, 2013 10:27 pm

Yeah, this one needs to be locked up pronto. Lipps's posts are painful to read.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#31 » by trwi7 » Fri Aug 2, 2013 12:18 am

I'd rather have him making 50 Demar DeRozan trade threads on the Bucks board than have to read these posts again.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#32 » by A Diddy2231 » Fri Aug 2, 2013 2:17 am

IBTL

On a unrelated note...Cooper is a scrub WR
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Post#33 » by chonestown » Fri Aug 2, 2013 2:22 am

Incoming: DeRozan, wampum, several comely wenches
Outgoing: John Rocker, affirmative action, three pairs of slacks once owned by Fuzzy Zoeller

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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#34 » by El Duderino » Fri Aug 2, 2013 3:35 am

A Diddy2231 wrote:IBTL

On a unrelated note...Cooper is a scrub WR


Yea, he's a fringe player. If i owned the Eagles, i would have seriously considered telling Kelly to waive the guy or at the very least call in a few black leaders on the team and ask them if they still wanted Cooper on the team.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#35 » by LittleRooster » Fri Aug 2, 2013 3:35 am

chonestown wrote:Incoming: DeRozan, wampum, several comely wenches
Outgoing: John Rocker, affirmative action, three pairs of slacks once owned by Fuzzy Zoeller

Works under the trade checker.


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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#36 » by skitch815 » Fri Aug 2, 2013 3:45 am

Lippo did you call in to the D-List this morning on 540? There was a caller whose call consisted of basically your entire original post.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#37 » by blazza18 » Fri Aug 2, 2013 4:36 am

El Duderino wrote:
A Diddy2231 wrote:IBTL

On a unrelated note...Cooper is a scrub WR


Yea, he's a fringe player. If i owned the Eagles, i would have seriously considered telling Kelly to waive the guy or at the very least call in a few black leaders on the team and ask them if they still wanted Cooper on the team.


Well, they all do.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#38 » by RiotPunch » Fri Aug 2, 2013 5:45 am

The context in which Cooper dropped the bomb is what makes it disturbing and incredibly racist. That's not a guy slipping up and making a mistake, that is a racist f*ck accidentally conveying his beliefs.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#39 » by El Duderino » Fri Aug 2, 2013 7:29 am

blazza18 wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
A Diddy2231 wrote:IBTL

On a unrelated note...Cooper is a scrub WR


Yea, he's a fringe player. If i owned the Eagles, i would have seriously considered telling Kelly to waive the guy or at the very least call in a few black leaders on the team and ask them if they still wanted Cooper on the team.


Well, they all do.


I saw Vick's comments, but i wouldn't just assume that all of his teammates feel as forgiving. Either way, it had to be awkward as hell for Cooper to walk into those team facilities today knowing most of his teammates are black and with so much media attention all over this story.

I don't ever use that word so i wouldn't ever be in the position he's now in, but if hypothetically i was in his shoes, man i can't imagine the level of nerves and apprehension he had to feel driving to work, then entering the locker room.
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Re: OT: Riley Cooper Comments 

Post#40 » by blazza18 » Fri Aug 2, 2013 8:01 am

Yea, I shouldn't have said all, but they're mostly behind him or forgiven him. McCoy has come out and questioned if he can trust him again so that'll be interesting.

Chip might have to do what's best for the team and that is to cut him.
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