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Post#1 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Aug 1, 2013 4:30 pm

I'll start with my minutes...

D.Williams (34) / Livingston (14)
Johnson (30) / Terry (18)
Pierce (24) / AK (24)
Garnett (24) / Evans* (12) / Teletovic* (12)
Lopez (30) / Blatche (18)

DNP: Taylor, Anderson, Toko, Plumlee

*I think ultimately one of these guys get phased out of the rotation with their minutes given to AK or Blatche.

I'd also like to see AA get minutes, but he should get his as players need time off.

Going by those minutes:

Player, minutes, points, rebounds, assists, blocks

D.Williams - 16/2/9/0
Johnson - 14/3/2/0
Pierce - 13/3/2/0
Garnett - 10/7/2/1
Lopez - 19/8/1/2
Livingston - 4/2/3/0
Terry - 6/2/2/0
AK - 6/5/1/1.5
Evans - 2/5/0/0
Teletovic - 5/2/1/0
Blatche - 8/4/1/1

Totals: 103/43/24/6
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Post#2 » by JMaine518 » Thu Aug 1, 2013 5:02 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:I'll start with my minutes...

D.Williams (34) / Livingston (14)
Johnson (30) / Terry (18)
Pierce (24) / AK (24)
Garnett (24) / Evans* (12) / Teletovic* (12)
Lopez (30) / Blatche (18)

DNP: Taylor, Anderson, Toko, Plumlee

*I think ultimately one of these guys get phased out of the rotation with their minutes given to AK or Blatche.

I'd also like to see AA get minutes, but he should get his as players need time off.

I like this minute distribution. Its well balanced with age minute restrictions and gives the bench guys enough minutes to flourish
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Post#3 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Aug 1, 2013 6:10 pm

To be honest, I don't think we'll see a regular minutes pattern.

If all goes according to plan and the offense operates at the elite level that it should be at, we should be blowing most teams out by mid-3rd quarter. The bench is good enough to at least maintain any leads we have against most teams and we'll be able to rest our starters.

Also, I'd expect TT, Toko, and Plumlee to be the nightly inactives. I think AA will get a bit more PT than we think.

We ranked 10th in points per game differential (+1.8)

We need to get up to the level of the top 4 teams: OKC (+9.2), MIA (+7.9), LAC (+6.5), SAS (+6.4)

OKC, MIA rely heavily on their stars so LBJ, Wade, KD, and Westbrook don't get much rest. But we have quality depth at most positions like SAS, who didn't have a single player average over 33mpg. (TP averaged 32.9mpg and Leonard was next at 31.2mpg)

I don't see why we can't put an SAS-like point differential or better and have a similar minutes spread because we blow out teams early.
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Post#4 » by bobbyc » Thu Aug 1, 2013 6:48 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:I'll start with my minutes...

D.Williams (34) / Livingston (14)
Johnson (30) / Terry (18)
Pierce (24) / AK (24)
Garnett (24) / Evans* (12) / Teletovic* (12)
Lopez (30) / Blatche (18)

DNP: Taylor, Anderson, Toko, Plumlee

*I think ultimately one of these guys get phased out of the rotation with their minutes given to AK or Blatche.

I'd also like to see AA get minutes, but he should get his as players need time off.


We have versatile players who can play multiple positions. So your minute breakdown is too restricted by position. Just because AK plays behind Pierce doesn't mean they are going to split minutes at sf. 240 minutes per game collectively to be played by the players of each team.

Pierce is going to be our 3 best player, no way we play him less than 25 mpg even if he is getting old. He played 33 mpg last year relatively injury free while being "The Guy" on offense.

JJ played 36 mpg last year, way too many minutes.

Garnett at 29 mpg last year, a little too many. Missed 14 games.

Only thing I'm worried about is how many minutes Brook is going to get with him coming off that foot surgery. He needs to play close to 30 minutes per game for us to be elite. Just not sure how he is going to hold up with those kinds of minutes.

Deron 35/ Livingston 12
Johnson 31/ Terry 15
Pierce 30/ AK 27
Garnett 25/ Evans 16
Lopez 29/ Blatche 20
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Post#5 » by chas0x01 » Sat Aug 3, 2013 2:32 am

JMAINE_PH wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:I'll start with my minutes...

D.Williams (34) / Livingston (14)
Johnson (30) / Terry (18)
Pierce (24) / AK (24)
Garnett (24) / Evans* (12) / Teletovic* (12)
Lopez (30) / Blatche (18)

DNP: Taylor, Anderson, Toko, Plumlee

*I think ultimately one of these guys get phased out of the rotation with their minutes given to AK or Blatche.

I'd also like to see AA get minutes, but he should get his as players need time off.

I like this minute distribution. Its well balanced with age minute restrictions and gives the bench guys enough minutes to flourish


I also think anderson will get more PT than many ppl think. I expect him to be a regular part of the rotation (probably a 15mpg guy), along with Livingston, AK of course, Terry, and Blatche.
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Post#6 » by Boarder Patrol » Sat Aug 3, 2013 5:22 am

There'll be some injuries along the way, so this all changes if a rotation player is out, but fully healthy:

Deron: 32 / Livingston: 12 / Spot minutes to others.
JJ: 28 / Terry: 20
Pierce: 22 / Kirilenko: 26
Garnett: 26 / Evans: 14 / Telotovic: 8
Lopez: 28 / Blatche: 20

Statistically is where it gets tricky, I don't know how we can tell how the points get divided up. Not a fan of JJ, so ipI expect very little of him. Deron should likely have a good year.

Points-Rebounds-Assists

Deron: 18/4/10 on 46/36 shooting.
Joe: 14/4/3 on 42/33 shooting
Pierce: 11/5/5 on 47/39 shooting
Garnett: 12/7/2 on 50 shooting
Brook: 18/8/2 on 51 shooting

Livingston: No clue
Terry: 10/2/2
AK: 12/4/2
Evans: 4/9/1
Blatche: 7/4/1

Totals: 106 which factoring in third stringers is too high, but if you account for missed games it'll average out.
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Post#7 » by jeff1624 » Sat Aug 3, 2013 7:09 am

Lopez - 32
Garnett - 26
Pierce - 28
Johnson - 32
Deron - 34

Kirilenko - 25
Blatche - 22
Terry - 18
Livingston - 14
Anderson -9


Evans, Mirza and maybe Taylor will add spot minutes, but the ones I listed before will be the most to benefit from kidd's rotation.
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Post#8 » by Basileus777 » Sat Aug 3, 2013 7:27 am

bobbyc wrote:
Deron 35/ Livingston 12
Johnson 31/ Terry 15
Pierce 30/ AK 27
Garnett 25/ Evans 16
Lopez 29/ Blatche 20

This is a good projection, at least in terms of minutes, not necessarily position. AK is going to get minutes at the 4, and JJ at the 3. Terry will probably play some point too. We'll see KG at center too.

Boarder Patrol wrote:Pierce: 22 / Kirilenko: 26

Pierce at 22 minutes a game, playing less than KG? No, there's no way that happens baring injury.
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Post#9 » by exculpatory » Sat Aug 3, 2013 2:34 pm

Basileus777 wrote:
bobbyc wrote:
Deron 35/ Livingston 12
Johnson 31/ Terry 15
Pierce 30/ AK 27
Garnett 25/ Evans 16
Lopez 29/ Blatche 20


This projection is very accurate IMO.

Boarder Patrol wrote:Pierce: 22 / Kirilenko: 26


Pierce at 22 minutes a game, playing less than KG? No, there's no way that happens baring injury.


Second that. No way on earth Paul only plays 22 minutes. He played All Star/All Pro level after the ASG last season without Rondo. Paul will give every game exactly what it needs. He is a consummate/unselfish pro. Some nights, he will watch DWill, Brook and/or JJ go off. Every third night, he will score 20+ efficient points.
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Post#10 » by Boarder Patrol » Sat Aug 3, 2013 5:04 pm

You guys have plenty of offensive firepower, when you have a decent lead you can rest him.

26 for Pierce sound better?
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Post#11 » by Paradise » Sun Aug 4, 2013 2:33 am

Deron (34) / Shaun (15)
Joe (32) / JET (16) / Alan (5)
Paul (28) / AK (26)
Kevin (28) / Reggie (12) or Mirza (12)
Brook (30) / Andray (24)

I think my numbers are slightly off but I'm expecting to see borderline 30 minutes for Paul and Kevin and most likely 30 minutes for Brook unless he's needed. I'm also expecting spot minutes for Mason and Reggie/Mirza on certain nights where both rotate in the backup PF spot for situational needs.

I don't think any of the minute patterns are guaranteed. I think you will see less minutes across the board against lottery teams and more minutes on the starters against playoff teams or contenders. The chemistry needs to be built against playoff teams and playoff contenders. You can afford to rest or play guys less against crappier teams.
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Post#12 » by Rollydog » Sun Aug 4, 2013 4:43 pm

predictions:

pierce and livingston both get minutes at SG. I believe Terry and Anderson are actually the weakest players on our bench.

Pierce and AK play about the same, and both are under 30 mpg.

Blatche plays sig minutes alongside Lopez right off the bat.

KG plays between 20-24 mpg.

Mirza will get minutes over Evans. Plum will not play.

stat predictions:

one of our core 6 (DWill, Lopez, KG, PP, JJ, AK) will have a disappointing season. my bet is on JJ or Pierce.
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Post#13 » by jeff1624 » Sun Aug 4, 2013 6:21 pm

Rollydog wrote:predictions:

pierce and livingston both get minutes at SG. I believe Terry and Anderson are actually the weakest players on our bench.

Pierce and AK play about the same, and both are under 30 mpg.

Blatche plays sig minutes alongside Lopez right off the bat.

KG plays between 20-24 mpg.

Mirza will get minutes over Evans. Plum will not play.

stat predictions:

one of our core 6 (DWill, Lopez, KG, PP, JJ, AK) will have a disappointing season. my bet is on JJ or Pierce.



JJ is the most likely to disappoint. Kidd is gonna cut down the iso-ball and we already have three other players that can iso themselves so I could see JJ's usage rate/production dropping because of it. I think he needs to fully transition into being a spot up shooter or he's gonna have a bad year.
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Post#14 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Aug 4, 2013 9:12 pm

Boarder Patrol wrote:There'll be some injuries along the way, so this all changes if a rotation player is out, but fully healthy:

Deron: 32 / Livingston: 12 / Spot minutes to others.
JJ: 28 / Terry: 20
Pierce: 22 / Kirilenko: 26
Garnett: 26 / Evans: 14 / Telotovic: 8
Lopez: 28 / Blatche: 20

Statistically is where it gets tricky, I don't know how we can tell how the points get divided up. Not a fan of JJ, so ipI expect very little of him. Deron should likely have a good year.

Points-Rebounds-Assists

Deron: 18/4/10 on 46/36 shooting.
Joe: 14/4/3 on 42/33 shooting
Pierce: 11/5/5 on 47/39 shooting
Garnett: 12/7/2 on 50 shooting
Brook: 18/8/2 on 51 shooting

Livingston: No clue
Terry: 10/2/2
AK: 12/4/2
Evans: 4/9/1
Blatche: 7/4/1

Totals: 106 which factoring in third stringers is too high, but if you account for missed games it'll average out.


Another brilliant assessment by this guy. Pierce averaging 11ppg is laughable when he won't have double teams in his face and open looks. Johnson will be a lot better now that he won't be relied upon to score from isolation.

Instead of putting 'no clue' for Livingston, you should done so for the entire team.

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Post#15 » by Boarder Patrol » Mon Aug 5, 2013 4:37 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Boarder Patrol wrote:There'll be some injuries along the way, so this all changes if a rotation player is out, but fully healthy:

Deron: 32 / Livingston: 12 / Spot minutes to others.
JJ: 28 / Terry: 20
Pierce: 26 / Kirilenko
Garnett: 26 / Evans: 14 / Telotovic: 8
Lopez: 28 / Blatche: 20

Statistically is where it gets tricky, I don't know how we can tell how the points get divided up. Not a fan of JJ, so ipI expect very little of him. Deron should likely have a good year.

Points-Rebounds-Assists

Deron: 18/4/10 on 46/36 shooting.
Joe: 14/4/3 on 42/33 shooting
Pierce: 11/5/5 on 47/39 shooting
Garnett: 12/7/2 on 50 shooting
Brook: 18/8/2 on 51 shooting

Livingston: No clue
Terry: 10/2/2
AK: 12/4/2
Evans: 4/9/1
Blatche: 7/4/1

Totals: 106 which factoring in third stringers is too high, but if you account for missed games it'll average out.


Another brilliant assessment by this guy. Pierce averaging 11ppg is laughable when he won't have double teams in his face and open looks. Johnson will be a lot better now that he won't be relied upon to score from isolation.

Instead of putting 'no clue' for Livingston, you should done so for the entire team.

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So you just follow me around and quote every post I make? :lol:

Pierce isn't going to have the ball in his hands nearly as much, play as many minutes or be as good, so 11 efficient points in limited minutes is perfectly reasonable.

Joe Johnson will have to accept his role as a spot up shooter, he's not that good anymore.

Why don't you go harass the other guys who said Joe is in for a disappointing season and will average 14-3-2?
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Post#16 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 6, 2013 11:28 pm

Because they aren't here like a troll. You clearly are, because every post you've made has been **** ing ignorant.

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Post#17 » by L3GEND4RY » Wed Aug 7, 2013 2:30 am

Boarder Patrol wrote:Pierce isn't going to have the ball in his hands nearly as much, play as many minutes or be as good, so 11 efficient points in limited minutes is perfectly reasonable.


It's not reasonable at all and if by some chance that does occur, he's going to be horrendously underutilized. Pierce is NOT going to be playing 22 MPG. That's ridiculous for a guy who averaged 33+ MPG and 18+ PPG this past season. He's going to be around 28-30 MPG and scoring around 15 PPG, possibly more. Likewise, KG is going to be around 26-29 MPG.
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Post#18 » by Trader_Joe » Wed Aug 7, 2013 4:20 pm

Refined:

D.Will (34) / Livingston (14)
JJ (30) / Terry (14) / AA (4)
Pierce (28) / AK (14) / AA (6)
Garnett (14) / Blatche (12) / AK (10) / Teletovic or Evans (12)
Lopez (30) / Garnett (10) / Blatche (8)

Totals:
D.Will - 34
Lopez - 30
JJ - 30
Pierce - 28
Garnett - 24
AK - 24
Blatche - 20
Livingston - 14
Terry - 14
Teletovic or Evans - 12
Anderson - 10

11 man rotation most night.

When it's playoff time/big games:

D.Will (38) / Livingston (10)
JJ (34) / Terry (14)
Pierce (32) / AK (16)
Garnett (23) / Blatche (13) / AK (12)
Lopez (34) / Garnett (7) / Blatche (7)
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Post#19 » by Rich Rane » Wed Aug 7, 2013 5:11 pm

This entire roster is pretty damn versatile. Anyone wanna take stabs at what these lineups looks like: starting, big, small, defense, 3-pt, rebounding, victory cigar/white flag, etc.? Let's also leave out two men off as they'll be in suits.
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Post#20 » by ddb » Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:39 am

Pierce is going to be 2nd on the team in scoring. Not sure if dwill or brook leads the team but pierce will be 2nd. Wouldn't be shocked if he's first

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