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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#21 » by ComboGuardCity » Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:12 am

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ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.

A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.


I don't agree with that rule. Look at Brooklyn for example. Pierce, KG, and JJ are all very overpayed at this point in their careers yet they are a contender because their owner is willing to spend. If Joe feels like he can vault us into the top 4 in the East by taking on a big contract then he should do it. You have to make some sacrifices if you want to win and overpaying players if often one of those sacrifices.

The nets are an anomaly. Their owner could pay the salaries of 10 NBA teams and still not bat an eye.
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Post#22 » by ImHeisenberg » Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:39 am

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ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.

A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.


I don't agree with that rule. Look at Brooklyn for example. Pierce, KG, and JJ are all very overpayed at this point in their careers yet they are a contender because their owner is willing to spend. If Joe feels like he can vault us into the top 4 in the East by taking on a big contract then he should do it. You have to make some sacrifices if you want to win and overpaying players if often one of those sacrifices.


Gores isn't about to fund 80 million just in luxury tax. Additionally, it's completely foolish to believe that Eric Gordon vaults this team to another level. A guy who plays about half a season isn't somebody that puts a team over the top.

There's no way you're going to sell me that it's a good idea to give up valuable assets for an undersized 2-guard who's incredibly injury prone. Especially when we have an intriguing prospect like KCP on board for a fraction of Gordon's salary.
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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#23 » by Slackstring701 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 1:27 am

ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.

A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.


In your opinion is Monroe a max player? Because he is gonna get the exact same contract that Gordon has.
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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#24 » by princeofpalace » Mon Aug 5, 2013 2:25 am

Slackstring701 wrote:
ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.

A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.


In your opinion is Monroe a max player? Because he is gonna get the exact same contract that Gordon has.


And unless Monroe suddenly becomes the injury prone player that Gordon is, then thats a fair contract for Monroe.
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Post#25 » by ImHeisenberg » Mon Aug 5, 2013 2:31 am

Slackstring701 wrote:In your opinion is Monroe a max player? Because he is gonna get the exact same contract that Gordon has.


You're making an assumption, sir.

The only way Monroe gets a max extension next summer is if he earns it. That's the very reason he isn't negotiating right now, he and his agent know full and well that he hasn't earned that kind of financial commitment.

Now, if he starts knocking down that 17 foot jumper at a near 50% clip, and becomes a passable defender, opposed to being a liability, I would in that event seriously consider giving him a 4-year max extension.

Right now? He's probably looking at something like 4-years and somewhere between 40 and 48 million tops.
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Post#26 » by joseph mamah » Mon Aug 5, 2013 3:01 am

Anderson would be about a perfect fit in between Dre and Smith, but there really isn't anything else on that roster I would want other than Withey (obviously AD) and I wouldnt trade Moose for Anderson/Withey.

i'll pass on Gordon.
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Post#27 » by MrBigShot » Mon Aug 5, 2013 3:25 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:
ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.

A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.


I don't agree with that rule. Look at Brooklyn for example. Pierce, KG, and JJ are all very overpayed at this point in their careers yet they are a contender because their owner is willing to spend. If Joe feels like he can vault us into the top 4 in the East by taking on a big contract then he should do it. You have to make some sacrifices if you want to win and overpaying players if often one of those sacrifices.

The nets are an anomaly. Their owner could pay the salaries of 10 NBA teams and still not bat an eye.


Exactly. I was one of the guys who criticized Gores for not just using the amensty on Gordon so we could keep our 1st, but I don't expect him to pay like 30 mil in luxury tax or something crazy like that. Too lazy to look it up but I bet the Nets probably will pay even more than that. Prokorhov is filthy rich. And Pierce/KG have been in the league a while, so the max they earn is a lot more.

Moose isn't a max guy and I think if we payed him the max he would receive the "Good player, overpaid" tags barring him developing into 20/10(which is very possible) but at least he can stay on the court.

I actually hope he develops a jumper and earns a max. It will make us that much better.
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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#28 » by Jodi » Mon Aug 5, 2013 3:34 am

Gordon is too expensive for us...I agree with Joseph Mamah, I think we'll pass on E. Gordon...
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Post#29 » by vege » Mon Aug 5, 2013 4:01 am

Honestly, if we could trade Stuckey + Jerebko for Gordon we should jump all over it. Motivated and with a good medical staff Gordon could be the guy who put a team over the top.

By sending Jerebko in the deal we would reduce by 4.5 million Gordon's salary (cap hit) making him cost 10 million next year, and the year after he is a big expiring.

Andre Drummond / /
Greg Monroe / Charlie Villanueva / Tony Mitchell
Josh Smith / Kyle Singler / Luigi Datome
Eric Gordon / K. Caldwell-Pope /
Brandon Jennings / Chauncey Billups / Will Bynum

All we would need is a veteran center capable of playing 15 minutes when needed.

If NOPE ask for any assets or doesn't want to take Jerebko back than it would be a no go for me, not worth the risk and the price tag.
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Post#30 » by Jodi » Mon Aug 5, 2013 4:22 am

vege wrote:Honestly, if we could trade Stuckey + Jerebko for Gordon we should jump all over it. Motivated and with a good medical staff Gordon could be the guy who put a team over the top.

By sending Jerebko in the deal we would reduce by 4.5 million Gordon's salary (cap hit) making him cost 10 million next year, and the year after he is a big expiring.

Andre Drummond / /
Greg Monroe / Charlie Villanueva / Tony Mitchell
Josh Smith / Kyle Singler / Luigi Datome
Eric Gordon / K. Caldwell-Pope /
Brandon Jennings / Chauncey Billups / Will Bynum

All we would need is a veteran center capable of playing 15 minutes when needed.

If NOPE ask for any assets or doesn't want to take Jerebko back than it would be a no go for me, not worth the risk and the price tag.

You understand that Gordon would have the highest salary on our team with the highest number of games missed in his career...I don't know if that would be a wise investment Vege...
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Post#31 » by mercury » Mon Aug 5, 2013 5:47 am

Stuckey & JJ for EG is a high risk/reward worth taking a chance on
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Post#32 » by tradez401 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:26 am

mercury wrote:Stuckey & JJ for EG is a high risk/reward worth taking a chance on


Pretty sure everybody on this board would do this deal
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Post#33 » by DetroitSho » Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:21 pm

Jodi wrote:
vege wrote:Honestly, if we could trade Stuckey + Jerebko for Gordon we should jump all over it. Motivated and with a good medical staff Gordon could be the guy who put a team over the top.

By sending Jerebko in the deal we would reduce by 4.5 million Gordon's salary (cap hit) making him cost 10 million next year, and the year after he is a big expiring.

Andre Drummond / /
Greg Monroe / Charlie Villanueva / Tony Mitchell
Josh Smith / Kyle Singler / Luigi Datome
Eric Gordon / K. Caldwell-Pope /
Brandon Jennings / Chauncey Billups / Will Bynum

All we would need is a veteran center capable of playing 15 minutes when needed.

If NOPE ask for any assets or doesn't want to take Jerebko back than it would be a no go for me, not worth the risk and the price tag.

You understand that Gordon would have the highest salary on our team with the highest number of games missed in his career...I don't know if that would be a wise investment Vege...

You understand it would be trading a guy people have wanted gone for years and another guy who really don't have a role right now? And like was stated, it would be like paying him $10 million in 2014-15 by including Jonas. Then he becomes an expiring.

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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#34 » by Dre Drummond » Mon Aug 5, 2013 1:44 pm

I'd avoid EG at all costs to be honest... It would be another hampering contract like Ben Gordon was for us. I wouldn't even take him for Stuckey and Jonas.

The last few years he hasn't even been able to shoot 33% from three and he's not an efficient enough of a scorer to pay him big money to score and not play defense.... We would be better served getting a guy like Afflalo who can score and defend.
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Post#35 » by Jodi » Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:51 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
Jodi wrote:
vege wrote:Honestly, if we could trade Stuckey + Jerebko for Gordon we should jump all over it. Motivated and with a good medical staff Gordon could be the guy who put a team over the top.

By sending Jerebko in the deal we would reduce by 4.5 million Gordon's salary (cap hit) making him cost 10 million next year, and the year after he is a big expiring.

Andre Drummond / /
Greg Monroe / Charlie Villanueva / Tony Mitchell
Josh Smith / Kyle Singler / Luigi Datome
Eric Gordon / K. Caldwell-Pope /
Brandon Jennings / Chauncey Billups / Will Bynum

All we would need is a veteran center capable of playing 15 minutes when needed.

If NOPE ask for any assets or doesn't want to take Jerebko back than it would be a no go for me, not worth the risk and the price tag.

You understand that Gordon would have the highest salary on our team with the highest number of games missed in his career...I don't know if that would be a wise investment Vege...

You understand it would be trading a guy people have wanted gone for years and another guy who really don't have a role right now? And like was stated, it would be like paying him $10 million in 2014-15 by including Jonas. Then he becomes an expiring.

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Everything your saying is true, but you can't forget his injury history and our cap space moving forward to re-sign Monroe...If we traded for Gordon and he continued to miss a large chucks of games I think we'll see Dumars fired...For the record, I think Gordon would be a great fit, it's a just an extremely risky decision...
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Post#36 » by Brapman » Mon Aug 5, 2013 6:58 pm

I really want to run with KCP. The last thing the Pistons need is a short SG who has had many injuries.
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Re: Eric Gordon 

Post#37 » by DetroitDon15 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:01 pm

Jodi wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
Jodi wrote:You understand that Gordon would have the highest salary on our team with the highest number of games missed in his career...I don't know if that would be a wise investment Vege...

You understand it would be trading a guy people have wanted gone for years and another guy who really don't have a role right now? And like was stated, it would be like paying him $10 million in 2014-15 by including Jonas. Then he becomes an expiring.

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Everything your saying is true, but you can't forget his injury history and our cap space moving forward to re-sign Monroe...If we traded for Gordon and he continued to miss a large chucks of games I think we'll see Dumars fired...For the record, I think Gordon would be a great fit, it's a just an extremely risky decision...


I agree with you Gordon could be a fit but is it worth the cost of Monroe? I just don't think it is.

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