Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition)

in-limbo · Post #1341 » by **in-limbo** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 7:53 pm

Sorry to double post but as a Bucs fan I am not excited in the least about football. The blackouts may actually do me in. I have many hobbies and football is about to fall off...and the Bucs need a quarterback.

in-limbo · Post #1342 » by **in-limbo** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 7:55 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Who would of thought before last season that Oladipo would have been the possibly the best player in the draft?

I am so excited now. He looks to be the real deal.

I think awesome just flows out of this dude. Hope he doesn't fall in love with himself.

thelead · Post #1343 » by **thelead** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 8:08 pm

AddiFB wrote:

awesome pic

The Real Dalic · Post #1344 » by **The Real Dalic** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 8:11 pm

Who would've thunk football would get this board going? Lol

TDJacksonville · Post #1345 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 8:11 pm

OrlDave wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
like i said, you may measure it like that, but others do not.

Fair enough. But, even though all 32 teams strive to win a championship, it isn't feasible to happen for most of them. Thus, not every team should be judged by how many ships they have or their ability to get one within the next season or two.

We'll it's vastly more feasible in the NFL than the NBA. In the past 20 years 13 different teams have won titles with 6 winning more than one (NYG x2, GB x2, NE x3, Dallas x2, Baltimore x2, Denver x2).

Over that same span 8 NBA teams have won with only 3 winning just once. The rest (Chi x3, SA x4, LA x5, Hou x2, Mia x3) winning multiple.

because of Injuries

MagicFan41 · Post #1346 » by **MagicFan41** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 8:14 pm

in-limbo wrote:Sorry to double post but as a Bucs fan I am not excited in the least about football. The blackouts may actually do me in. I have many hobbies and football is about to fall off...and the Bucs need a quarterback.

I don't think there are going to be many blackouts this season. MNF game, Thurs night game, Saints game, Niners game, Eagles game will all probably be televised. I also think Freeman will do better with a better pass defense to get them better field position. Our offense showed a ton of promise at points last season. We basically missed the playoffs by just one key play in a few games. Could've ended up 10-6 perhaps.

TDJacksonville · Post #1347 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 8:28 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:
in-limbo wrote:Sorry to double post but as a Bucs fan I am not excited in the least about football. The blackouts may actually do me in. I have many hobbies and football is about to fall off...and the Bucs need a quarterback.

I don't think there are going to be many blackouts this season. MNF game, Thurs night game, Saints game, Niners game, Eagles game will all probably be televised. I also think Freeman will do better with a better pass defense to get them better field position. Our offense showed a ton of promise at points last season. We basically missed the playoffs by just one key play in a few games. Could've ended up 10-6 perhaps.

the jags could have been atleast middle road last year if it werent for some bad Luck. i mean 2 Overtime loses(one was where we lost MJD and Gabbert and the other we had Lost Gabbert in as well).

rcklsscognition · Post #1348 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 8:37 pm

I saw Harkless is at RTP, did he not go last year because of the injury, or is he there for other purposes?

MrShow · Post #1349 » by **MrShow** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 8:48 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:I saw Harkless is at RTP, did he not go last year because of the injury, or is he there for other purposes?

I believe he was hurt last year.

OrlDave · Post #1350 » by **OrlDave** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 9:03 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:because of Injuries

Nah, its because of the hard cap (not to say that injuries don't matter however). The NBA has always had a very flexible cap (although it's losing some of the flexibility due to the luxury tax). In the NFL, guys still in their prime are routinely traded or not resigned because they just can't afford to keep them under the cap.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1351 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 9:18 pm

OrlDave wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:because of Injuries

Nah, its because of the hard cap (not to say that injuries don't matter however). The NBA has always had a very flexible cap (although it's losing some of the flexibility due to the luxury tax). In the NFL, guys still in their prime are routinely traded or not resigned because they just can't afford to keep them under the cap.

Or cut because in the NFL contracts are not guaranteed. Thus, a team can retool quick if a player loses a step and doesn't live up to his contract.

If the NBA had non-guaranteed contracts, no teams would be stuck with Gilbert Arenas's or Eddy Curry's destroying a teams chances to compete for a title for years at a time.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #1352 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 9:39 pm

OrlDave wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:because of Injuries

Nah, its because of the hard cap (not to say that injuries don't matter however). The NBA has always had a very flexible cap (although it's losing some of the flexibility due to the luxury tax). In the NFL, guys still in their prime are routinely traded or not resigned because they just can't afford to keep them under the cap.

Yup the 16 game regular season with single-elimination playoff games is a factor as well

Greenraida · Post #1353 » by **Greenraida** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 10:05 pm

Every day I check this thread and am excited because there's a whole bunch of new posts. Then I check the thread and have to weed out all the basketball amongst the NFL lol

Mannchild · Post #1354 » by **Mannchild** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 10:31 pm

Sixers really trying to tank, they are looking to sign Duhon.

RookieStar · Post #1355 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 11:00 pm

well based on the WT, shabazz bought some girls to his room so he got kicked out? When will they ever learn?

AddiFB · Post #1356 » by **AddiFB** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 11:08 pm

Signing Duhon is like being up by 15 in game 7 of the NBA Finals, 2 minutes left and flat out give up, just to let the others win and have fun.

TDJacksonville · Post #1357 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 11:14 pm

OrlDave wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:because of Injuries

Nah, its because of the hard cap (not to say that injuries don't matter however). The NBA has always had a very flexible cap (although it's losing some of the flexibility due to the luxury tax). In the NFL, guys still in their prime are routinely traded or not resigned because they just can't afford to keep them under the cap.

NFL has way Worse Injuries and yes some of it is from the Hard cap but the Injuries in the NFL are Usually Long term. i dont see that many NBA Players getting an ACL or a significant Injury of that sort. i know theres some exceptions but for the most part its true. hell NFL players do get More Concussions than nba guys.

TDJacksonville · Post #1358 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Aug 7, 2013 11:15 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
OrlDave wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:because of Injuries

Nah, its because of the hard cap (not to say that injuries don't matter however). The NBA has always had a very flexible cap (although it's losing some of the flexibility due to the luxury tax). In the NFL, guys still in their prime are routinely traded or not resigned because they just can't afford to keep them under the cap.

Or cut because in the NFL contracts are not guaranteed. Thus, a team can retool quick if a player loses a step and doesn't live up to his contract.

If the NBA had non-guaranteed contracts, no teams would be stuck with Gilbert Arenas's or Eddy Curry's destroying a teams chances to compete for a title for years at a time.

actually NFL contracts are Partially Guranteed but i agree for the Most part.

OrlDave · Post #1359 » by **OrlDave** » Thu Aug 8, 2013 12:46 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
OrlDave wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:because of Injuries

Nah, its because of the hard cap (not to say that injuries don't matter however). The NBA has always had a very flexible cap (although it's losing some of the flexibility due to the luxury tax). In the NFL, guys still in their prime are routinely traded or not resigned because they just can't afford to keep them under the cap.

Or cut because in the NFL contracts are not guaranteed. Thus, a team can retool quick if a player loses a step and doesn't live up to his contract.

If the NBA had non-guaranteed contracts, no teams would be stuck with Gilbert Arenas's or Eddy Curry's destroying a teams chances to compete for a title for years at a time.

That's true.

yoyojw17 · Post #1360 » by **yoyojw17** » Thu Aug 8, 2013 3:11 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Who would've thunk football would get this board going? Lol

i got excited.....earlier today we were in the mid 80's (page wise) when all of a sudden i came back and was like...."91"...."oh oh oh .....what happened?!?" hahaha