"Decisions on the court last yr based on pleasing Howard"

[dub81]

Easy to talk bad about a player when he's gone but were kissing his ass begging him to stay?

mike once again throwing a player under a bus

[Kilroy]

Yep MDA throwing a player under the bus... A player that was throwing MDA under the bus all season and kicking him in the ribs when he tried to crawl out from under.

[IamBBAnalysis]

Knick fan here, I just wanted to see how many of you are buying this bullsh*t Dantoni is selling. This is a lie. Dantoni is clueless as how to work with post players. It has nothing to do with pleasing Dwight. I distinctly remember when reporters asked Dantoni why he bunched Pau in the fourth quarter of games, him saying "I'm trying to win games".

...and even if this was true, what good is a coach, who makes decisions based on pleasing players as opposed to winning?

We watched this loser for 4 years in NY make excuse after excuse and unfortunately Dwight wasn't the real problem, it was the utter fail of a coaching hire your front office made that led to the problems you face now. Everything changes if they choose the right coach.

Just like MDA in Phoenix was a completely different situation to New York so to was MDA different from NY to LA. Trying to paint with a broad brush like that as an analysis is what ESPN analysts do. Maybe try to get a job there?

[NYKat]

Knick fan here, I just wanted to see how many of you are buying this bullsh*t Dantoni is selling. This is a lie. Dantoni is clueless as how to work with post players. It has nothing to do with pleasing Dwight. I distinctly remember when reporters asked Dantoni why he bunched Pau in the fourth quarter of games, him saying "I'm trying to win games".

...and even if this was true, what good is a coach, who makes decisions based on pleasing players as opposed to winning?

We watched this loser for 4 years in NY make excuse after excuse and unfortunately Dwight wasn't the real problem, it was the utter fail of a coaching hire your front office made that led to the problems you face now. Everything changes if they choose the right coach.

Just like MDA in Phoenix was a completely different situation to New York so to was MDA different from NY to LA. Trying to paint with a broad brush like that as an analysis is what ESPN analysts do. Maybe try to get a job there?

Well there are similarities to his tenure in Phoenix, NY, Lakers: in all three places he was told to hire a defensive assistant. He left Phoenix when they told him to, He eventually quit in NY when they made him, and I think Lakers FO, is hoping a similar situation happens so they don't have to honor his contract.

The media also gave him a pass in NY and blamed everything on Carmelo much like they are doing now blaming Dwight. If the mediots had done their job in NY and exposed him for the phony he his, I almost guarantee, you guys wouldn't have hired him over Phil.

Dude is a fraud. He made almost exactly the same mistakes in LA that he did in NY, so he's too stubborn too learn. You can keep denying if you want but there's only so many excuses you can make for him and your front office is married to him, cause they can't financially afford another coaching mistake. I don't mean to be a jerk about it, I just wanted to see if you guys were still blaming Dwight.

[LaLa]

kobe said no one was taking him out of those games, not even phil. phil said that kobe wasn't going to let anyone take him out of those games. sorry, but any claim that karl/scott/hollins were going to sit kobe just is baseless.

and jamison played center cause pau/howard/hill were often injured, several games all of them missed games so there isn't any way around it.

are you done bringing up excuse after excuse for your boy Mike?

[dockingsched]

bandwagoners that should be rooting for the warriors don't get a voice here


except stephano

[LaLa]

bandwagoners that should be rooting for the warriors don't get a voice here


except stephano

and idiots shouldn't be allowed to become moderators. amirite?

[EArl]

bandwagoners that should be rooting for the warriors don't get a voice here


except stephano

and idiots shouldn't be allowed to become moderators. amirite?

InB4 the ban

[Wavy Q]

get em Doc

[JustAwesome]

There was a lot more fans pleading with Howard to return to the Lakers a couple of weeks ago than there are now.

[ennui]

kobe said no one was taking him out of those games, not even phil. phil said that kobe wasn't going to let anyone take him out of those games. sorry, but any claim that karl/scott/hollins were going to sit kobe just is baseless.

and jamison played center cause pau/howard/hill were often injured, several games all of them missed games so there isn't any way around it.

are you done bringing up excuse after excuse for your boy Mike?

I remember when doc was trying to justify gasol on the perimeter in order to alleviate mda's coaching inadequacies. What happens? We put gasol in the post and immediately improve.

[dockingsched]

i don't want to rehash that topic too much but i'm going to assume that my argument regarding it was that it made sense that if featuring dwight in the post was the goal, then spacing the floor is a requirement. dwight howard doesn't have the height or skills to play back to the basket style of post offense like a player like bynum. a player like bynum doesn't require as much space cause you're kinda going thru/over your man with your power, height, and post moves. what dwight requires in the post is space. space so that he can use his speed and athleticism to get around his man and get to the basket. if the pf isn't stretching the floor, it allows a secondary big man to crowd the paint and greatly disturb howard. he's had that his entire career with hedo turkoglu, rashard lewis, and ryan anderson.

obviously its not the best use of pau, but thats what you need to get the most out of howard in the post. when pau came back he was the one being allowed to initiate the from the post. howard began to play more off the ball getting easy buckets from pau. team should have been playing this way all season, but a combination of pau being out for so much, mda being slow to the come to it, and dwight showing signs of only wanting to post up probably led to this approach not being used til the season was in the balance.

[LaLa]

Its the same exact **** you've said over & over. Its fine, Mike is a **** idiot, you don't need to defend a POS coach for idiotic decisions. You know damn well if Phil was here he'd make it work 100%.

You're allowed to be passionate about a particular topic, but you can't personal attack like that man. -TyCobb

[EArl]

Its the same exact **** you've said over & over. Its fine, Mike is a **** idiot, you don't need to defend a POS coach for idiotic decisions. You know damn well if Phil was here he'd make it work 100%. Everyone with a **** brain knew you could make it work, stop being so damn stupid and oblivious to it Doc.

Well I must say I am disappointed in Docs passive response.


Also I dont think Phil would have made it work. You saw how he managed Bynum and Gasol.

Phil is a great coach, but he's not god.

[dockingsched]

Its the same exact **** you've said over & over. Its fine, Mike is a **** idiot, you don't need to defend a POS coach for idiotic decisions. You know damn well if Phil was here he'd make it work 100%. Everyone with a **** brain knew you could make it work, stop being so damn stupid and oblivious to it Doc.

if you actually care to have a discussion feel free to begin expressing yourself in a manner that isn't so idiotic. none of your posts in this thread suggest you're actually attempting to do anything but annoy.

[LaLa]

Warning issued

[dAdo dA dEvil]

... chill guys ... Dwight isn't here anymore ... inhale ... exhale ... ^_^

[Kilroy]

Pretty sure the argument has nothing to do with Dwight...

That begs the question though... Any reason to keep this one open any longer?

[EArl]

Pretty sure the argument has nothing to do with Dwight...

That begs the question though... Any reason to keep this one open any longer?

I say you lock it. Nothing else to talk about here.