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Post#1 » by Revived » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:48 pm

The vaunted 2014 free agent class is a myth. It doesn't exist. The highlight of the 2014 free agency class starts and ends with LeBron James, who can potentially terminate his contract with the Miami Heat and become an unrestricted free agent next July. At that point, he'll be able to sign with any team he wishes with the requisite cap room, which as of today, includes the Los Angeles Lakers.

Beyond James? There isn't much there. Let's break down the list as it stands today:

Unrestricted free agents: Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol, Danny Granger, Luol Deng and Andrew Bogut

Do any of those guys look like franchise saviors to you? Both Bryant and Dirk will be 35+, and neither is expected to leave his current team. Gasol is an attractive option even at 34 in a year's time, but if he was such a great option to build around, the Lakers would be proceeding with that now. Andrew Bogut could be a franchise changing player who will be only 29, but he does most of what Dwight Howard does, except missing more games due to injury and he, quite frankly, isn't as good as D12. Deng and Granger are really nice players, but both will be 30 next year and have had a very real recent history of injury problems. Even at their fully healthy peaks, there's some debate as to whether they're better building blocks than Howard. Personally, it's not even a debate.

Restricted free agents: Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Derrick Favors, Eric Bledsoe, Greg Monroe, DeMarcus Cousins and Paul George

Restricted free agency is: when a player can sign an offer sheet with another team (meaning a team can offer him years and money), but his former team has the ability to match any contract offer. The most recent example is Eric Gordon having his 4 year, $58 million dollar offer sheet from the Phoenix Suns matched by the New Orleans Hornets last off-season. Gordon was quoted as saying "his heart is with the Suns", but NOLA had no responsibility to bend to their shooting guard's whims.

Irving, Wall, Monroe and George? You want a premium free agent with youth on his side? You got it!

But not really. As explained above, these players will only be free agents insofar as they can get offers from other teams, but could have their contracts fully matched by their current teams. Cleveland, Washington, Detroit and Indiana are not letting their young stars go, even if another squad offers a maximum contract. None of those franchises have had the most solid leadership over the years, but it's almost a no-brainer to keep around these players who are entering their primes but won't have even hit their 26th birthdays next year. None of these players are coming to the Lakers barring a serious injury, in which case handing out a large contract would be a very controversial decision.

Bledsoe, Cousins and Favors are both questionable additions here, but whoever their teams are at the end of next year will almost assuredly match contract terms based on sheer potential. Even still, is the Lakers fan base salivating at the notion of starting anew with a 36 year-old Kobe, a 41 year-old Steve Nash and either Eric Bledsoe and Derrick Favors?

The bottom line? These players are free agents in name only. There is close to zero percent chance they will be wearing purple and gold in a year.

Early Termination Option: LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony

Early termination option is: when a player can end his contract prematurely and become an unrestricted free agent. This is much more common in baseball when a player in his prime opts out of his deal in order to sign for more years and more money. Of course, the player can forgo his ETO and continue on with the deal he originally signed.

First and foremost: Amar'e Stoudemire is not electing to punch his ETO. He's got $23 million coming to him, which is a bigger sum of money than he'll probably make the rest of his career. Besides, his best days are behind him; no one is looking to STAT as a building block.

Bosh and Wade are much better players than they may appear when playing next to James and subjugating their skills for the sake of winning, but more than likely won't be franchise cornerstones in a year's time. Wade has broken down the last 3 postseasons and will be 32 next summer. Bosh will be just 30, and even as a twenty-something in Toronto, didn't prove himself as being someone that could carry a team.

If any team is looking forward to next summer to find a franchise building block, the answer is singular: LeBron James. He is the only player potentially reaching unrestricted free agency that could be a complete game changer for any team looking to build from the ground up. Any organization clearing cap room, including the Lakers, has to have one name in mind. And that's it. Next summer we're not talking about multiple options if Dwight Howard leaves: there is only one option. If Howard walks and LeBron re-signs in Miami or returns to Cleveland, LA has no other fallback plans. 2014 is about getting a shot at LeBron James, period. Considering the reigning MVP's greatness, it's not a terrible plan, but is a gigantic gamble.

In 12 months, there is one target: LeBron James. That is it. This is not a situation where Dwight Howard leaves and the Lakers will be back on their feet in a year. The rebuilding will most likely be delayed another year, when the targets will be Kevin Love, Marc Gasol, Rajon Rondo and LaMarcus Aldridge could all become free agents.

Meanwhile, the Lakers have limited assets and don't control their 2015 first round draft pick. I'm not suggesting the Lakers cannot find a way to grab a franchise player within the next one, two or three years, but what I am saying is that the blithe dogma of July 2014 being a shoe-in for reloading is only true as long we're talking about LeBron James specifically. Even more to the point, maybe we should all revisit if we should be so eager to see Howard walk all the way to Texas.

Next summer's free agent class of saviors is a myth. More of a myth is that that the free agent class is still great even without Howard in purple and gold. Next summer, there is one free agent savior. And that is what we should all be talking about in the case that Dwight leaves LA.

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This article is from a Lakers blog but I think it applies to the Suns too. I have heard about how we should wait til next summer so we can spent money on all these stars and everything. But truth is, other than LeBron and Melo, there are really no stars that we can/should sign which would make sense for a rebuilding team like us.

Wade, Gasol, Amare, Bosh, Deng, Granger, Nowitzki, Kobe, Bogut all don't make sense for a team like us. Those guys are at best complementary pieces for a title team, they would have no place on a rebuilding squad like the Suns imo.

Now it would be nice to get Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Derrick Favors, Greg Monroe, DeMarcus Cousins or Paul George but I think its fairly certain that their current teams will match the offer sheet that these guys will sign (aka NO with Eric Gordon). Maybe Monroe becomes available if the Suns are willing to overpay cause I don't know how comfortable the Pistons are with him, Josh Smith and Drummond all sharing a front court.

And as far as LeBron and Carmelo go...I think its pretty obvious that we won't get either. LeBron has won 2 back to back titles and isn't leaving all that even if Miami doesn't win again this year. Only team he may leave Miami for is Cleveland and that's cause its his hometown and he wants to fulfill on his promise of bringing them a ring. And Carmelo wanted to go to NY so damn bad, I can't see him leaving there now. He's from New York and now he gets to play for his home team in the biggest stage in Madison Square Garden...plus in a year, Amare's contract comes off the books opening up cap space for them to go after other stars to pair with Melo.

So as the article says, the real FA period that we should be looking forward to spending money should be in the 2015 summer when hopefully Bledsoe/Goodwin/Len/'14 draftees will have developed well and we could get Kevin Love, Marc Gasol, Rajon Rondo, Eric Gordon, Jeff Green, Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert and/or LaMarcus Aldridge among others to pair with them.

In the mean time, if a deal comes up where we can get a potential star by taking on salaries, then you gotta do it. But I believe McDonough's already said as much.
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Post#2 » by King4Day » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:51 pm

I think we should put together a plan that's good enough to, at the very least, draw an interview from Lebron. It'll help to get a big name in next years draft, and while I don't expect him to want to play here, it can't hurt to try. If that doesn't work, wait a year and go after Love. PF would likely be the only position of need at that stage.
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Post#3 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:09 pm

Yeah, that's what sucks about the NBA, is that once you become the worst team in the conference, it can be very hard to make moves to get out of it. Most teams stay there. It seems like a lot of fans think that if you get a stud in the draft, you are immediately a playoff team, but even when OKC got Durant, who became the second best player in the league within 5 years, they were still one of the worst teams in the league his first two years AND they needed to luck out and get two more super star type players with their subsequent picks.

The best blueprint I see, is doing something like Indiana did. Hopefully we have our big man like they got first, then next year hopefully we get our centerpiece (kind of like their Paul George) and then maybe we can find an undervalued PF (if we draft a SF...or go for the SF if we draft a PF) that teams are kind of sleeping on (like when they signed David West).

If everything fell into place quickly with Len and next year's pick (say it's a PF) a guy like Deng could potentially be a good guy to have.

It may be wise to collect more assets though like Houston did in the hopes we can pry a really big name off a team that can't afford all it's young players, when their second contracts kick in (GS, for example...once their young guys all have their second contracts, they are going to HAVE to go into luxury tax to keep everyone...and they are already paying big bucks to Iggy and Lee).
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Post#4 » by Revived » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:02 am

bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, that's what sucks about the NBA, is that once you become the worst team in the conference, it can be very hard to make moves to get out of it. Most teams stay there. It seems like a lot of fans think that if you get a stud in the draft, you are immediately a playoff team, but even when OKC got Durant, who became the second best player in the league within 5 years, they were still one of the worst teams in the league his first two years AND they needed to luck out and get two more super star type players with their subsequent picks.

The best blueprint I see, is doing something like Indiana did. Hopefully we have our big man like they got first, then next year hopefully we get our centerpiece (kind of like their Paul George) and then maybe we can find an undervalued PF (if we draft a SF...or go for the SF if we draft a PF) that teams are kind of sleeping on (like when they signed David West).

If everything fell into place quickly with Len and next year's pick (say it's a PF) a guy like Deng could potentially be a good guy to have.

It may be wise to collect more assets though like Houston did in the hopes we can pry a really big name off a team that can't afford all it's young players, when their second contracts kick in (GS, for example...once their young guys all have their second contracts, they are going to HAVE to go into luxury tax to keep everyone...and they are already paying big bucks to Iggy and Lee).

I agree completely. Especially about collecting the assets so we can make a trade like Houston did part.

And that's why I don't want the Suns to tank for many years. I honestly just want them to suck next season really bad and then after that, I would like to see the Suns climb up even if it means getting a late lottery pick instead of early one. A losing culture can be extremely hard to get rid of.
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Post#5 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:19 am

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bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, that's what sucks about the NBA, is that once you become the worst team in the conference, it can be very hard to make moves to get out of it. Most teams stay there. It seems like a lot of fans think that if you get a stud in the draft, you are immediately a playoff team, but even when OKC got Durant, who became the second best player in the league within 5 years, they were still one of the worst teams in the league his first two years AND they needed to luck out and get two more super star type players with their subsequent picks.

The best blueprint I see, is doing something like Indiana did. Hopefully we have our big man like they got first, then next year hopefully we get our centerpiece (kind of like their Paul George) and then maybe we can find an undervalued PF (if we draft a SF...or go for the SF if we draft a PF) that teams are kind of sleeping on (like when they signed David West).

If everything fell into place quickly with Len and next year's pick (say it's a PF) a guy like Deng could potentially be a good guy to have.

It may be wise to collect more assets though like Houston did in the hopes we can pry a really big name off a team that can't afford all it's young players, when their second contracts kick in (GS, for example...once their young guys all have their second contracts, they are going to HAVE to go into luxury tax to keep everyone...and they are already paying big bucks to Iggy and Lee).

I agree completely. Especially about collecting the assets so we can make a trade like Houston did part.

And that's why I don't want the Suns to tank for many years. I honestly just want them to suck next season really bad and then after that, I would like to see the Suns climb up even if it means getting a late lottery pick instead of early one. A losing culture can be extremely hard to get rid of.


I agree. I can't imagine any fan wants their team to suck for multiple seasons. If you have any sort of tank mentality, it has to be for one year only. Bad thing for us is, that other teams that are probably non playoff teams have much better young players right now (Utah, Portland, NO, Sac). I think Utah may have the worst record in the west next year, but they held onto their vets for just long enough to compete for a playoff spot, yet also had a ton of good young players, that they could go COMPLETELY young this year and tank at the perfect time. The more I think about it, I think they will probably have the worst record in the west (unless we unload Gortat and Scola early) and they may just have that great young nucleus with Burke, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Kanter and an extremely high pick.
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Post#6 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:49 am

bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, that's what sucks about the NBA, is that once you become the worst team in the conference, it can be very hard to make moves to get out of it. Most teams stay there. It seems like a lot of fans think that if you get a stud in the draft, you are immediately a playoff team, but even when OKC got Durant, who became the second best player in the league within 5 years, they were still one of the worst teams in the league his first two years AND they needed to luck out and get two more super star type players with their subsequent picks.

The best blueprint I see, is doing something like Indiana did. Hopefully we have our big man like they got first, then next year hopefully we get our centerpiece (kind of like their Paul George) and then maybe we can find an undervalued PF (if we draft a SF...or go for the SF if we draft a PF) that teams are kind of sleeping on (like when they signed David West).

If everything fell into place quickly with Len and next year's pick (say it's a PF) a guy like Deng could potentially be a good guy to have.

It may be wise to collect more assets though like Houston did in the hopes we can pry a really big name off a team that can't afford all it's young players, when their second contracts kick in (GS, for example...once their young guys all have their second contracts, they are going to HAVE to go into luxury tax to keep everyone...and they are already paying big bucks to Iggy and Lee).


That's what I like to see. I don't think we need to put pressure on ourselves to go out and splurge in the first off-season where we have some legit money and sell him as our savior. Houston did the right thing and collected assets with good potential over time (overpaid Lin but). I personally don't like the idea of clearing mad cap space in the hopes of selling a FA on a max deal and see who bites. The smart FA's who are worth the money go to where there is a good foundation already and where they could grow. The lower tier guys are the ones who sign the deal first and rationalise the signing to themselves and the new team afterwards (looking at Tyreke Evans).
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Post#7 » by Revived » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:35 am

I really hope that we don't go out and waste our money next summer since we'll have quite some cap space to work with.

If the Suns were smart, they would do what Utah did this summer and take on expiring big contracts and get draft picks as compensation.

Unless McD wants to go after one of the talented RFAs and thinks we have a chance to get him unlike the Eric Gordon fiasco.
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Post#8 » by Revived » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:28 am

Phoenix Suns: Why Paul George Should Be No. 1 2014 Free Agent Target
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By Michael Dunlap | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Fri, Aug 9, 2013 4:52 PM EDT


COMMENTARY | NBA free agency in 2014 is going to be remarkable.

There are so many stars who could possibly be on the market, it feels like every team with space could grab one. LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and Kobe Bryant headline a list that looks like a future Hall of Fame induction class.

The Suns need to be aggressive and have the space to acquire a top-tier man. Is it realistic that James, Anthony or Bryant ends up in Phoenix? No. However, Paul George is more realistic, even though he is a restricted free agent.

LOOKING TO THE FUTURE

Youth is extremely important for the rebuilding Suns. For that reason, they wouldn't want to go after any superstar that's on the backside of his career. The Phoenix faithful would riot if Bryant wore orange, and Anthony and James are simply in another class.

George is just 23 years old and has yet to enter his prime. Barring major injury, he'll just get better over the next couple of seasons. In 2012-13, he had a breakout year with averages of 17.4 points, 7.6 rebounds, 4.1 assists and 1.8 steals per game. He screams superstar and will be a mainstay on the All-NBA team for years to come.

FILLING A MAJOR HOLE

The Suns have a major deficiency at the small forward position. They put a Band-Aid on it with the acquisition of Caron Butler, but he's in the last year of his deal and at 33 years of age, he will likely be gone at the end of the season.

If Eric Bledsoe develops into an athletic defensive-oriented star, he'll need to be paired with an offensive-minded teammate if the Suns want to compete for a championship someday. Markieff Morris is a power forward, so he's out. Marcus Morris isn't up to par, and those are really the only options.

[size=150]UNLESS SOME LUCK ARRIVES[/size]

As we saw, the Suns are going to have to upgrade the small forward position sooner rather than later. The only thing that should prevent the Suns from offering a max contract to George would be hitting the 2014 NBA draft lottery.

Andrew Wiggins is the consensus No. 1 pick and would fit in perfectly with Phoenix. He's an uber-athletic 18-year-old that would thrive in the helter-skelter Jeff Hornacek offense. At 6 feet 8 inches, 197 pounds, he would pair with Bledsoe, Archie Goodwin, (Markieff) Morris and Alex Len to create the most athletic team in the league. The "track meet" offense would certainly be fun to watch.

FORCE THE PACERS' HAND

If it's not the Suns, it will be another team. Somebody is going to force the Pacers hand and make them decide whether they're willing to dole out major dollars to remain a force in the Eastern Conference. They've already got Roy Hibbert locked up and could conceivably re-sign George to a max deal, but they'd be handcuffed. Filling out the roster would be a challenge with next to no cap space.

The Suns need a young, athletic star and they need an offensive-minded small forward. George is all of those things and would speed up the rebuilding process considerably. The Suns may as well put in their bid now, because it's a no-brainer.

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Post#9 » by thamadkant » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:45 am

The chance of Pacers letting George go is about 0.0000000000001%


George IS their franchise player and Hibbert is his "Robin".




The Pacers letting George go and using the cap space on 2-3 ROLE players is a ridiculous thought.



Who wrote that article and how bored are they?
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Post#10 » by thamadkant » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:55 am

If I was Suns...

Develop Markieff Morris as a 3pt threath.

Use Gortat, Marshall and picks to get Ryan Anderson, 2nd rounder.


Len (C)
Anderson (PF)
SF (2014 draftee)
Goodwin (SG)
Bledsoe (PG)

Dragic (PG/SG)
Kieff Morris (PF)
Marc Morris (SF/PF)
Tucker (SG)
Plumlee (C)


Ryan Anderson is an adept shooter and a good rebounder.

He is a role player/specialists version of Kevin Love.... 15/9 type PF from the arc.
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Post#11 » by DRK » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:04 am

1UPZ wrote:If I was Suns...

Develop Markieff Morris as a 3pt threath.

Use Gortat, Marshall and picks to get Ryan Anderson, 2nd rounder.


Len (C)
Anderson (PF)
SF (2014 draftee)
Goodwin (SG)
Bledsoe (PG)

Dragic (PG/SG)
Kieff Morris (PF)
Marc Morris (SF/PF)
Tucker (SG)
Plumlee (C)


Ryan Anderson is an adept shooter and a good rebounder.

He is a role player/specialists version of Kevin Love.... 15/9 type PF from the arc.


All we need is to get Horny to work with Keef on getting his 3 point shot to a respectable rate,, and he's already better than Ryan Anderson.

Anderson is immensely overrated.
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Post#12 » by Revived » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:07 am

DRK wrote:
1UPZ wrote:If I was Suns...

Develop Markieff Morris as a 3pt threath.

Use Gortat, Marshall and picks to get Ryan Anderson, 2nd rounder.


Len (C)
Anderson (PF)
SF (2014 draftee)
Goodwin (SG)
Bledsoe (PG)

Dragic (PG/SG)
Kieff Morris (PF)
Marc Morris (SF/PF)
Tucker (SG)
Plumlee (C)


Ryan Anderson is an adept shooter and a good rebounder.

He is a role player/specialists version of Kevin Love.... 15/9 type PF from the arc.


All we need is to get Horny to work with Keef on getting his 3 point shot to a respectable rate,, and he's already better than Ryan Anderson.

Anderson is immensely overrated.

Agreed. IMO it's not that hard to groom a guy into a stretch 4.

And if Frye comes back, even he can better than Anderson at a cheaper price tag.
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Post#13 » by thamadkant » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:41 pm

Its the rebounding that Anderson has advantage over Frye and Morris.

When Howard was not playing he had 15-20 rebound games from my memory.
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Post#14 » by thamadkant » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:48 pm

Teaser Pleaser wrote:
DRK wrote:
1UPZ wrote:If I was Suns...

Develop Markieff Morris as a 3pt threath.

Use Gortat, Marshall and picks to get Ryan Anderson, 2nd rounder.


Len (C)
Anderson (PF)
SF (2014 draftee)
Goodwin (SG)
Bledsoe (PG)

Dragic (PG/SG)
Kieff Morris (PF)
Marc Morris (SF/PF)
Tucker (SG)
Plumlee (C)


Ryan Anderson is an adept shooter and a good rebounder.

He is a role player/specialists version of Kevin Love.... 15/9 type PF from the arc.


All we need is to get Horny to work with Keef on getting his 3 point shot to a respectable rate,, and he's already better than Ryan Anderson.

Anderson is immensely overrated.

Agreed. IMO it's not that hard to groom a guy into a stretch 4.

And if Frye comes back, even he can better than Anderson at a cheaper price tag.


Frye is 50/50 chance to retire.

Anderson is also younger, can last with the Suns new core longer than Frye.


Ideally the Suns need a Robert Horry type PF or a Rasheed Wallace type.
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Post#15 » by phrazbit » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:08 pm

Anderson is better than Frye ever has been, and by a very wide margin.
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Post#16 » by Revived » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:28 am

1UPZ wrote:
Teaser Pleaser wrote:
DRK wrote:
All we need is to get Horny to work with Keef on getting his 3 point shot to a respectable rate,, and he's already better than Ryan Anderson.

Anderson is immensely overrated.

Agreed. IMO it's not that hard to groom a guy into a stretch 4.

And if Frye comes back, even he can better than Anderson at a cheaper price tag.


Frye is 50/50 chance to retire.

Anderson is also younger, can last with the Suns new core longer than Frye.


Ideally the Suns need a Robert Horry type PF or a Rasheed Wallace type.

Right and Ryan Anderson is a soft, 3pt shooting stretch big man. Bad on defense too.

If Frye does come back and if he can go back to the way he played in 2010, then he wouldn't be much of a drop off from Anderson.

Either way, I think guys like Anderson aren't that hard to find.
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Post#17 » by thamadkant » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:19 am

But Anderson is a better shooter than Frye and rebounder too.
Frye is a product of Nash.

And is a mediocre 3pointer, what makes him slightly appealing is that he is 6'11...
Although when he tries he is not completely useless as a PF.

People here want Love, well Anderson is a homeless man's Love.... Who can play third/fourth option happily...


I do stand by my proposal that the Suns need A Horry/Rashee Wallace type to suit the current team.

Marking Morris is the key, if he can become a 13-14ppg 7-8rpg PF who can nail the 3 and play the mid range and give solid defense Suns will be one step closer to the new core.
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Post#18 » by Revived » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:22 am

1UPZ wrote:But Anderson is a better shooter than Frye and rebounder too.

People here want Love, well Anderson is a homeless man's Love.... Who can play third/fourth option happily...


I do stand by my proposal that the Suns need A Horry/Rashee Wallace type to suit the current team.

Marking Morris is the key, if he can become a 13-14ppg 7-8rpg PF who can nail the 3 and play the mid range and give solid defense Suns will be one step closer to the new core.

Yea but a homeless man's Love making almost $10M/yr is not needed on the Suns.

Agreed about Morris and needing a Horry/Wallace.
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Re: Suns shouldn't spend a lot in the summer of 2014 

Post#19 » by phrazbit » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:05 am

Teaser Pleaser wrote:Right and Ryan Anderson is a soft, 3pt shooting stretch big man. Bad on defense too.


... and what is Frye?

I dont get how a guy who has for his entire career been considered soft and a poor defender then misses a full year with a heart issue and somehow those parts of his career are over looked.

It sucks that Frye got sick, I hope he gets better and lives a long happy life, hell, I would love if he magically became a great player, but it does not change what he has been throughout his career.

He is a soft player, whos confidence evaporates in an instant, he is a poor defender and poor rebounder.

I dont care if Anderson is regarded as a poor defender because Frye is too, if you're slotting Frye in there based on his defensive prowess then there is a serious problem.

Anderson is better by a wide margin... and across the board.
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Re: Suns shouldn't spend a lot in the summer of 2014 

Post#20 » by Revived » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:25 am

Frye isn't that good either. I don't like his game or his contract either.. But Anderson at $10M/yr isn't something I want to add to Frye's contract.

I don't like soft, stretch PFs. Probably the only one who I wouldn't mind is Kevin Love.

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