Minutes and Stats Predictions

[PetroNet]

Pierce is going to be 2nd on the team in scoring. Not sure if dwill or brook leads the team but pierce will be 2nd. Wouldn't be shocked if he's first

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Lopez will lead the team in scoring because he will be within 2 FG attempts of the teams leader in attempts if not taking the most himself and he scores with elite efficiency.

id assume pierce or dwill would be next, both around 16-17 ppg

[Boarder Patrol]

Because they aren't here like a troll. You clearly are, because every post you've made has been **** ing ignorant.

Keep it up though, you'll be banned from here soon enough.

From here on out, can we just agree not to respond to each other?

I think you're as done with my "ignorant" and "trolling" posts as I am with your personal bashing and accusatory replies.

Into the topic: I revised earlier that 26 MPG seemed reasonable. I'll meet you guys half way, you say thirty minutes, and go to 28. Take his 18PPG and reduce it by a couple because of the minutes reduction, then factor in that the nets starters combined for a 127% usage rate last year, so in theory every starter will get their possessions used reduced by about 25-30 percent. With a minutes and touches reduction, we can come up with about 13PPG. That being said I think he will get more open looks and his efficiency will increase. With the ball in his hands less and being counted on less, he can keep up his passing and rebounding even in less minutes.

13-14/5-6/4-6 on 48/40 or so shooting would be a great season for him and to a degree, what I expect.

[jonny three time]

As an outsider looking in, what are the chances that Jet is the main backup for Deron (along with playing beside him for some stretches)?

Maybe I'm not as high on Livingston as you guys are, but his game is too suited to having the ball in his hands. Everyone has to play off-the-ball when he's out there because he can't. He has no range on his jumper whatsoever. With all the play-makers in your rotation, why not make sure that all of your perimeter players are always 3 pt shooters? Giving Anderson those minutes would help with defense, 3 pt shooting and ball-movement.

If anything, I'd early sub AA or Terry for JJ, then have JJ be the main creator for the bench guys. He's redundant in the starting lineup anyway.

[NyCeEvO]

As an outsider looking in, what are the chances that Jet is the main backup for Deron (along with playing beside him for some stretches)?

Maybe I'm not as high on Livingston as you guys are, but his game is too suited to having the ball in his hands. Everyone has to play off-the-ball when he's out there because he can't. He has no range on his jumper whatsoever. With all the play-makers in your rotation, why not make sure that all of your perimeter players are always 3 pt shooters? Giving Anderson those minutes would help with defense, 3 pt shooting and ball-movement.

If anything, I'd early sub AA or Terry for JJ, then have JJ be the main creator for the bench guys. He's redundant in the starting lineup anyway.

We expect D-Will to play 33-34mpg, which leaves about 14mpg AT MOST for Livingston at the PG slot.

The things that he does better than Terry are ballhandling, slashing, and distributing, which are all key skills for a PG who can keep the offense flowing, especially when he's surrounded by shooters.

On our bench alone, we have Terry (spot up shooter), AK (slasher/high BBIQ playmaker), Blatche (low post scoring threat), and Mirza (a stretch 4 who you can't leave wide open).

And this is going on the assumption that the bench players wouldn't play with the starters, which is definitely not true.

Livingston should see a ton of time alongside JJ and/or Pierce (and D-Will at the 2 sometimes) in addition to the aforementioned bench players.

I think the offense will be more than fine with Livingston handling the rock for 14mpg at the PG slot.

Our situation is completely different from last year. We won't have two guys who are offensively challenged playing 30-35mpg and completely killing our offense. We only have one guy who is effective at everything but deep shooting, who will be surrounded by several capable scorers and deep threats while he's on the court.

[exculpatory]

Because they aren't here like a troll. You clearly are, because every post you've made has been **** ing ignorant.

Keep it up though, you'll be banned from here soon enough.

From here on out, can we just agree not to respond to each other?

I think you're as done with my "ignorant" and "trolling" posts as I am with your personal bashing and accusatory replies.

Into the topic: I revised earlier that 26 MPG seemed reasonable. I'll meet you guys half way, you say thirty minutes, and go to 28. Take his 18PPG and reduce it by a couple because of the minutes reduction, then factor in that the nets starters combined for a 127% usage rate last year, so in theory every starter will get their possessions used reduced by about 25-30 percent. With a minutes and touches reduction, we can come up with about 13PPG. That being said I think he will get more open looks and his efficiency will increase. With the ball in his hands less and being counted on less, he can keep up his passing and rebounding even in less minutes.

13-14/5-6/4-6 on 48/40 or so shooting would be a great season for him and to a degree, what I expect.

That would be a great season for ANYONE!

You do realize his efficiency was already literally off the charts after Rondo went down/after the ASG? 18.8-48.5-42.4, as well as 6.2-5.6.

People like some of our friendly Knicks interlopers who focus on his difficulties during the POs (when he was playing hurt, defended intensively & playing on a severely limited team with few options) will be eating their words.

I foresee a decrease to no less than 30 minutes per game, & decreased touches because he now will be the third option on many nights (although he will still be the first option on some nights). I think 16-17 on 46-48 & around 40 is realistic & would be a truly outstanding season (if he stays healthy). There is still plenty of gas left in Paul's 36 year old HOF tank.

[DrazenForThree]

Because they aren't here like a troll. You clearly are, because every post you've made has been **** ing ignorant.

Keep it up though, you'll be banned from here soon enough.

From here on out, can we just agree not to respond to each other?

I think you're as done with my "ignorant" and "trolling" posts as I am with your personal bashing and accusatory replies.

Into the topic: I revised earlier that 26 MPG seemed reasonable. I'll meet you guys half way, you say thirty minutes, and go to 28. Take his 18PPG and reduce it by a couple because of the minutes reduction, then factor in that the nets starters combined for a 127% usage rate last year, so in theory every starter will get their possessions used reduced by about 25-30 percent. With a minutes and touches reduction, we can come up with about 13PPG. That being said I think he will get more open looks and his efficiency will increase. With the ball in his hands less and being counted on less, he can keep up his passing and rebounding even in less minutes.

13-14/5-6/4-6 on 48/40 or so shooting would be a great season for him and to a degree, what I expect.

That would be a great season for ANYONE!

You do realize his efficiency was already literally off the charts after Rondo went down/after the ASG? 18.8-48.5-42.4, as well as 6.2-5.6.

People like some of our friendly Knicks interlopers who focus on his difficulties during the POs (when he was playing hurt, defended intensively & playing on a severely limited team with few options) will be eating their words.

I foresee a decrease to no less than 30 minutes per game, & decreased touches because he now will be the third option on many nights (although he will still be the first option on some nights). I think 16-17 on 46-48 & around 40 is realistic & would be a truly outstanding season (if he stays healthy). There is still plenty of gas left in Paul's 36 year old HOF tank.

i feel the same and have said as much on this topic. the notion pierce will be a sub 30 minute player seems way off. KG, sure, he is a couple years older and has missed time. Pierce is 35 and has been extremely durable. Lets not forget guys like kidd played 80games at 35 mpg recently. so its not way off to think a 35 year old pierce can play 30+ minutes after playing 34 mpg at a high level the past 3 seasons.

spot on with the pierce/playoffs thing awful. knicks fans want to throw away a 75 game regular season sample of 20-5-5 play because of pierce struggling for 6 games? whats more funny is how they want it both ways. pierce is washed up because he struggled in the playoffs, but shumpert/felton did work because they held pierce. you also dont see any concern from them on carmello/JR/Tyson struggling in the playoffs