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Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseason)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#61 » by orlando1214 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:22 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:Moe and Tobias clowning Osby and Oladipo...

http://instagram.com/p/dA0jMFB4ri/


Hilarious! :lol: It's awesome though to see the four of them hanging out and practicing so much together. They are part of the core that this team is being built around, so them having such good friendships with each other is awesome to see. Having that relationship with each other and practicing together all the time can really help out all their games not only as individual but also as a team.
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Post#62 » by thelead » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:36 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:Moe and Tobias clowning Osby and Oladipo...

http://instagram.com/p/dA0jMFB4ri/

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#63 » by magicman112 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:05 am

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MagicStarwipe wrote:Moe and Tobias clowning Osby and Oladipo...

http://instagram.com/p/dA0jMFB4ri/


Hilarious! :lol: It's awesome though to see the four of them hanging out and practicing so much together. They are part of the core that this team is being built around, so them having such good friendships with each other is awesome to see. Having that relationship with each other and practicing together all the time can really help out all their games not only as individual but also as a team.


Really nice to see. I hope we don't stash Osby overseas I think he could be a contributor this season.
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Post#64 » by Bensational » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:59 am

RookieStar wrote:On the WT, it seems we had a tentative agreement with HOU? How would that have worked out if it pushed through?


Remember when Houston was scrambling last draft to acquire draft picks? Probably would've involved something to do with that.

But remember, any tentative deal organized in March would've been coordinated by Otis, which means we probably would've been trading for every bloated contract they had, and then some.

Imagine, though, if we'd traded for pieces we could have swapped for Harden...

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BBD/Nicholson
Harris
Harden
Nelson

Plus we'd have Oladipo or one of Noel/Zeller/Len/etc to add to the mix.

Harris/Harden tandem would be a pretty solid core to build around. Add a stud big man to that team and they're contenders, IMO.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#65 » by Howard Mass » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:30 am

My take on everything..............

Hopefully there will be a resolution on Hedo Turkoglu. I think the Magic will end up letting him go before Camp.

Al Harrington's cap hit stings a bit but it is what it is. I think some of his comments this week came out of frustration. I wish him well though.

Nikola Pekovic's new contract all but guarantees Nik Vucevic will get max money on his extension that he can sign next summer.

It's always to hear the "What could have beens" on trades but do look like the Dwight Howard package one year later.

I feel so bad for Ryan Anderson. He is such a good guy and this happens. What really puzzles me is how his girlfriend who had so much would kill herself. My condolences to him and hopefully he can pull through this.
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Post#66 » by 94_MagicFan » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:40 am

Remember at the Allstar game parsons was told by his agent that he was coming to Orl
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Post#67 » by arsenal6106 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:11 am

94_MagicFan wrote:Remember at the Allstar game parsons was told by his agent that he was coming to Orl


Was the that all star break in March?

Anyways, I do remember that thread from one of our posters. I believe it was Orange County that had the rumor. He didn't specifically say Parsons, but it was obvious that it was him from OC's clues.
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Post#68 » by CourtsideTV » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:02 am

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94_MagicFan wrote:Remember at the Allstar game parsons was told by his agent that he was coming to Orl


Was the that all star break in March?

Anyways, I do remember that thread from one of our posters. I believe it was Orange County that had the rumor. He didn't specifically say Parsons, but it was obvious that it was him from OC's clues.


yeah someone said they work with parson's uncle lol
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#69 » by RickB-Orlando » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:55 am

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MagicStarwipe wrote:Moe and Tobias clowning Osby and Oladipo...

http://instagram.com/p/dA0jMFB4ri/


Hilarious! :lol: It's awesome though to see the four of them hanging out and practicing so much together. They are part of the core that this team is being built around, so them having such good friendships with each other is awesome to see. Having that relationship with each other and practicing together all the time can really help out all their games not only as individual but also as a team.


Really nice to see. I hope we don't stash Osby overseas I think he could be a contributor this season.

Not me. Contribute to what, another 22-60 season? Stash him, give him playing time overseas, and let him get some free development to his game. He needs it.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#70 » by RickB-Orlando » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:06 pm

Howard Mass wrote:My take on everything..............

Hopefully there will be a resolution on Hedo Turkoglu. I think the Magic will end up letting him go before Camp.

I'm not so sure. I get the feeling we may hang onto him, hoping to flip him for something, anything, of value.

Al Harrington's cap hit stings a bit but it is what it is. I think some of his comments this week came out of frustration. I wish him well though.

Same here but I was a little surprised. Would have made a better impression if he'd kept his mouth shut. Plus he's revising history a bit, it's not like he could have contributed significant minutes at any point last year, or that his contributions would have changed losses to wins.

Nikola Pekovic's new contract all but guarantees Nik Vucevic will get max money on his extension that he can sign next summer.
at or near max. But I'm fine with that if he continues to develop, as he did last year. If he's a 17/12 guy, I have zero problem with it.
It's always to hear the "What could have beens" on trades but do look like the Dwight Howard package one year later.

We got out of that situation as well as could have been expected. Assuming we could have gotten any other package that would better position us for a rebuild at this point is meaningless and probably not 100% accurate
I feel so bad for Ryan Anderson. He is such a good guy and this happens. What really puzzles me is how his girlfriend who had so much would kill herself. My condolences to him and hopefully he can pull through this.

First, totally agree on Ryno, guy has to be devastated.

As for his girlfriend, no one can ever really understand what's running through someone's head when something like this takes place. Despair and depression are impossible for third parties to understand. A friend of ours took her life maybe ten years ago now, single mom with a 17 and 8 year old. You just look at it and think "what could possibly bring you there? Leave behind the life you built, the devastation to those around you?"

But the truth is, no one else can understand where anyone really is from a mindset when they do something like this. Things that make logical sense to you or I just fall away, and the person becomes myopic and can not see one way out.

It's terribly sad. All you can do is hope she is at rest, and those around her eventually can come to grips and fine peace with it.
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Post#71 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:58 pm

Magicman125 wrote:First is the worst, second is the best, third is the one with the treasure chest.

Yeah, not sure about Harrington, but he hasn't been inked to a deal with the Wiz yet has he?


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Post#72 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:48 pm

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arsenal6106 wrote:
94_MagicFan wrote:Remember at the Allstar game parsons was told by his agent that he was coming to Orl


Was the that all star break in March?

Anyways, I do remember that thread from one of our posters. I believe it was Orange County that had the rumor. He didn't specifically say Parsons, but it was obvious that it was him from OC's clues.


yeah someone said they work with parson's uncle lol

That's me. Whats so funny about that...
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Post#73 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:13 pm

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Howard Mass wrote:I feel so bad for Ryan Anderson. He is such a good guy and this happens. What really puzzles me is how his girlfriend who had so much would kill herself. My condolences to him and hopefully he can pull through this.

First, totally agree on Ryno, guy has to be devastated.

As for his girlfriend, no one can ever really understand what's running through someone's head when something like this takes place. Despair and depression are impossible for third parties to understand. A friend of ours took her life maybe ten years ago now, single mom with a 17 and 8 year old. You just look at it and think "what could possibly bring you there? Leave behind the life you built, the devastation to those around you?"

But the truth is, no one else can understand where anyone really is from a mindset when they do something like this. Things that make logical sense to you or I just fall away, and the person becomes myopic and can not see one way out.

It's terribly sad. All you can do is hope she is at rest, and those around her eventually can come to grips and fine peace with it.


I have seen severe depression with very attractive women with OCD. They have very high expectations and get very depressed when things don't happen the way they anticipate. Sort of like getting their hopes up too high and then crash and burn when it doesn't pan out. This is why I always prepare for worst case scenario and when it isn't that bad, I am happy. Hence, I am almost always happy go lucky. But, quite possibly the hottest woman I ever dated killed herself a few years later but she had all sorts of issues with her ex-husband so I don't know the full story.
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Post#74 » by CPBalla2003 n da 863 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:13 pm

Such a sad story, I feel so bad for Ryno and the families involved, such a great guy. the Wax- We are all not Heroes comes to mind. I hope that wasn't the case expectations that wasn't met. They will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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Post#75 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:04 pm

Youth promising, but playoffs still a long way off for Magic

http://www.nba.com/2013/news/features/s ... index.html

Hennigan would be wise to see exactly how this team has progressed -- and if Vaughn's voice and vision have taken hold of the roster -- before making any moves. No one player acquisition will solve the Magic's problem.

With a stronger Draft crop in 2014 and a monster free agent class next summer, the Magic need to maintain a position that allows them to act and react should opportunities arise.


I don't understand this pervasive idea that 2014 has a great FA class. Not seeing anyone I want on the team that will actually be available.
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Post#76 » by Bensational » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:45 pm

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Howard Mass wrote:It's always to hear the "What could have beens" on trades but do look like the Dwight Howard package one year later.

We got out of that situation as well as could have been expected. Assuming we could have gotten any other package that would better position us for a rebuild at this point is meaningless and probably not 100% accurate


i was just having fun with the thought. as i said, any deal organised in March means it would've been organised by Otis, and that doesn't bode well for us, especially if he's going up against Morey. i doubt we would've landed the pieces that would've landed Harden, and who knows if Harden was even on Hennigan's list? (I suspect he was, but that's another topic).

the deal we got was by all means a complete success in my book. my perception of Vuc continues to change and he's looking more and more like a legit anchor piece big man who can contribute offensively (in AND out), defensively and like a monster on the boards. that alone is a great return for trading the best big man in the game. on top of that we got promising guys like Moe, we dropped big contracts in JRich and Duhon, and we added a few draft picks (albeit, late ones). furthermore, Vuc is probably better suited to playing on a losing/developing team, whereas Harden probably would've put this team into win-now mode, which wouldn't have helped our efforts to acquire high level talent.

still, it's always fun to play hypothetical history.
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Post#77 » by MAGICian619 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:45 pm

0 posts in the speculation thread in 17 hours...

That is depressing.
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Post#78 » by MagicTownBaller » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:48 pm

MAGICian619 wrote:0 posts in the speculation thread in 17 hours...

That is depressing.


This is that time of year though, there's not going to be many posts until around October.
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Post#79 » by RYgoBOOM » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:10 pm

Seeing the the bucks are about to extend Sanders for 4-44m. I wouldn't mind extending Vucci for that at all when the time comes. Hopefully he doesn't pull a pekovic
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Post#80 » by tiderulz » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:11 pm

RYgoBOOM wrote:Seeing the the bucks are about to extend Sanders for 4-44m. I wouldn't mind extending Vucci for that at all when the time comes. Hopefully he doesn't pull a pekovic


which was what? ask for the max but settle for less? Pek didnt do anything wrong.

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