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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#121 » by MagicFan41 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:11 am

rcklsscognition wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/2013/8/19/4615826/top-100-nba-players-2017-list

Top 100 players in 2017. 3 Magicians make the list. Nik 69, Victor 44, Tobias 41. Wiggins lands at #8.



Drummond at #3? Just stop it.
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Post#122 » by orlando1214 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:00 am

MagicFan41 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/2013/8/19/4615826/top-100-nba-players-2017-list

Top 100 players in 2017. 3 Magicians make the list. Nik 69, Victor 44, Tobias 41. Wiggins lands at #8.



Drummond at #3? Just stop it.


Seriously, such a terrible list, the Drummond thing is just one of it's many problems. I definitely think Drummond is a very good prospect, and I think he has a ton of potential, but he will never be the 3rd best player in the league, I'm sorry. Who knows if he will even be the 3rd best Center in the league by then. He is a very good defender and can be an elite one, but he needs to make huge strides in other areas to become one of the better players in the league. Once again though, I do very much think he'll be a really good player, just not the 3rd best in the league.
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Post#123 » by londoncollin » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:16 pm

defko wrote:I'm reading Jonny Flynn is trying to make a come back in the NBA. Dude has shown some flashes of talent during his stint in Minnesota and he seems healthy now. I would love the Magic to give the kid a chance. He can't be worst than Price as a 3rd string PG.

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Post#124 » by NEM » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:23 pm

Meh. Price isn't really here to play, and Flynn might want to be somewhere where he can play, even if it's not the nba. And he's just not that good...
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Post#125 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:20 pm

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MagicFan41 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/2013/8/19/4615826/top-100-nba-players-2017-list

Top 100 players in 2017. 3 Magicians make the list. Nik 69, Victor 44, Tobias 41. Wiggins lands at #8.



Drummond at #3? Just stop it.


Seriously, such a terrible list, the Drummond thing is just one of it's many problems. I definitely think Drummond is a very good prospect, and I think he has a ton of potential, but he will never be the 3rd best player in the league, I'm sorry. Who knows if he will even be the 3rd best Center in the league by then. He is a very good defender and can be an elite one, but he needs to make huge strides in other areas to become one of the better players in the league. Once again though, I do very much think he'll be a really good player, just not the 3rd best in the league.

drummond could be the 3rd best based purely on potential. anyways id say Vuc should be a bit higher seeing hes the best Rebounder in the NBA thats healthy.
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Post#126 » by MagicFan41 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:51 pm

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Drummond at #3? Just stop it.


Seriously, such a terrible list, the Drummond thing is just one of it's many problems. I definitely think Drummond is a very good prospect, and I think he has a ton of potential, but he will never be the 3rd best player in the league, I'm sorry. Who knows if he will even be the 3rd best Center in the league by then. He is a very good defender and can be an elite one, but he needs to make huge strides in other areas to become one of the better players in the league. Once again though, I do very much think he'll be a really good player, just not the 3rd best in the league.

drummond could be the 3rd best based purely on potential. anyways id say Vuc should be a bit higher seeing hes the best Rebounder in the NBA thats healthy.


Drummond is gonna end up like a Ben Wallace/DeAndre Jordan hybrid imo. Never really ever going to develop a decent offensive game. So I don't see how he can be the #3 player in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. Dwight wasn't even the #3 player in the league in his prime probably. Do I think his ceiling is Dwight in his prime? Not even close.
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Post#127 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:06 pm

60 days until the season starts?
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Post#128 » by RickB-Orlando » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:30 pm

NEM wrote:Meh. Price isn't really here to play, and Flynn might want to be somewhere where he can play, even if it's not the nba. And he's just not that good...

Plus he hasn't really been healthy in quite some time, has he? I mean, durability has to be a question.
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Post#129 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:11 pm

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Drummond is gonna end up like a Ben Wallace/DeAndre Jordan hybrid imo. Never really ever going to develop a decent offensive game. So I don't see how he can be the #3 player in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. Dwight wasn't even the #3 player in the league in his prime probably. Do I think his ceiling is Dwight in his prime? Not even close.


Drummond is showing just as much if not more than Dwight did during his rookie season. In addition, Drummond can actually shoot a jump shot on occasion. Dwight has never been capable of ever shooting a jump shot ever. So, you can never say never. Drum could be like you said or could be a top 5 player. You never know.

FYI. I was at Shaqs and Dwights first ever home games in the NBA! I love watching young elite talent develop. Well, Shaq did score 32 points in his first ever home game in Orlando. It was freaking crazy electricity in that stadium.
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Post#130 » by Noonskadoodle » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:22 pm

I thought Nick Calathes rights were still owned by the Mavs or whatever?

Seen the Grizz just signed the 2012-13 EuroCup MVP Calathes.

Interested to see how he looks.
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Post#131 » by OrlandO » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:51 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:
Drummond is gonna end up like a Ben Wallace/DeAndre Jordan hybrid imo. Never really ever going to develop a decent offensive game. So I don't see how he can be the #3 player in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. Dwight wasn't even the #3 player in the league in his prime probably. Do I think his ceiling is Dwight in his prime? Not even close.


Drummond is showing just as much if not more than Dwight did during his rookie season. In addition, Drummond can actually shoot a jump shot on occasion. Dwight has never been capable of ever shooting a jump shot ever. So, you can never say never. Drum could be like you said or could be a top 5 player. You never know.

FYI. I was at Shaqs and Dwights first ever home games in the NBA! I love watching young elite talent develop. Well, Shaq did score 32 points in his first ever home game in Orlando. It was freaking crazy electricity in that stadium.

Shaq scored 12 in his first home game... maybe you're thinking of Anderson, who put up 42 that game...
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Post#132 » by Greenraida » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:19 am

Noonskadoodle wrote:I thought Nick Calathes rights were still owned by the Mavs or whatever?

Seen the Grizz just signed the 2012-13 EuroCup MVP Calathes.

Interested to see how he looks.


they traded the rights I believe.
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Post#133 » by tiderulz » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:25 pm

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MagicFan41 wrote:
Drummond is gonna end up like a Ben Wallace/DeAndre Jordan hybrid imo. Never really ever going to develop a decent offensive game. So I don't see how he can be the #3 player in the ENTIRE LEAGUE. Dwight wasn't even the #3 player in the league in his prime probably. Do I think his ceiling is Dwight in his prime? Not even close.


Drummond is showing just as much if not more than Dwight did during his rookie season. In addition, Drummond can actually shoot a jump shot on occasion. Dwight has never been capable of ever shooting a jump shot ever. So, you can never say never. Drum could be like you said or could be a top 5 player. You never know.

FYI. I was at Shaqs and Dwights first ever home games in the NBA! I love watching young elite talent develop. Well, Shaq did score 32 points in his first ever home game in Orlando. It was freaking crazy electricity in that stadium.


actually, Dwight could hit jumpers in HS. here are excerpts from his scouting report.

ESPN - "He dominates in the paint but also has the ability to step out and hit shots on the perimeter"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18627

Scout - "who can step away from the basket and knock down jumpers"
http://preps.scout.com/2/269335.html

so all his limitations now, he built into his game. he didnt have them, at least in different scouts opinions.
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Post#134 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:26 pm

OrlandO wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Drummond is showing just as much if not more than Dwight did during his rookie season. In addition, Drummond can actually shoot a jump shot on occasion. Dwight has never been capable of ever shooting a jump shot ever. So, you can never say never. Drum could be like you said or could be a top 5 player. You never know.

FYI. I was at Shaqs and Dwights first ever home games in the NBA! I love watching young elite talent develop. Well, Shaq did score 32 points in his first ever home game in Orlando. It was freaking crazy electricity in that stadium.

Shaq scored 12 in his first home game... maybe you're thinking of Anderson, who put up 42 that game...


Probably, I was young and probably drunk. We were all going crazy though. The whole Orena was.
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Post#135 » by westillhaveJJ » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:33 pm

Woj just posted on Twitter that Tony Wroten was traded to 76ers for a 2nd rounder.

I know a lot were high on him on this board
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Post#136 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:50 pm

westillhaveJJ wrote:Woj just posted on Twitter that Tony Wroten was traded to 76ers for a 2nd rounder.

I know a lot were high on him on this board


Yeh, I heard Joe Dumars turned down the Sixers offer of Wroten for Monroe.
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Post#137 » by TDJacksonville » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:08 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
westillhaveJJ wrote:Woj just posted on Twitter that Tony Wroten was traded to 76ers for a 2nd rounder.

I know a lot were high on him on this board


Yeh, I heard Joe Dumars turned down the Sixers offer of Wroten for Monroe.
we should have offered that. 2nd round picks arent that valuable.
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Post#138 » by OrlandoNed » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:17 pm

Hennigan 1, 2012 Wroten fanboys 0.

Man, I remember how bummed some board members were when we picked up Nicholson at 19 in last year's draft.
Clearly we drafted the best player available except for maybe Sullinger.
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Post#139 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:26 pm

OrlandoNed wrote:Hennigan 1, 2012 Wroten fanboys 0.

Man, I remember how bummed some board members were when we picked up Nicholson at 19 in last year's draft.
Clearly we drafted the best player available except for maybe Sullinger.

Sullingers back problems were probably a legit concern.
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Post#140 » by Neon1 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:27 pm

For a second rounder I would have been ON IT. He's like a month older then Moe, kid can be developed IMO. You would have to get him to not shoot though. 6'6" PG good defender, exciting passer and decent athlete.

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