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Top 25 Players Pt.III - Who's #16?
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DJ Pauly P wrote:DrazenForThree wrote:therealbig3 wrote:Meh, was Reggie really overhated last year? He was a selfish statpadder that played no defense. How many balls going out of bounds off the other team did he recklessly go after in order to pad his rebounding? How many times did he get burned defensively because he wouldn't contest shots so that he would be in the best possible position to rebound? How many times did he fight off his own teammates for rebounds? How many times did he blow his defensive rotations?
He was EXTREMELY overhated. Played no defense? that is simply a ridiculous statement. He wasn't an elite defender, but he was at worst average defensively at his position. How many times did he go recklessly after rebounds to statpad? not nearly as often as everyone likes to state he did. How often did he fight teammates for rebounds? not enough for my liking. give me a guy who wont stop fighting until he has possession over guys who are lackadaisical and lazy and affraid to go hard after every single one.
for every possession reggie stat padded or made a blunder going after one too hard, he had 3 or 4 more where he ended up with a rebounded out of sheer hustle or gained us an extra possession on offense. the pluses FAR outweighed the negatives when it came to his stat padding vs. gaining possessions. He had an ELITE almost historical season rebounding the ball. you arent doing that without some stat padding, but the benefits far outweighed the negatives, especially with a horrid defensive rebounder next to him.
Reggie was absolutely a scapegoat for this team last year. Our floor spacing was blamed almost 100% on him, yet our offensive woes had a TON more to do with us being one of the worst half court passing teams in the league, wallaces inability to shoot, and our inability to score without it coming off the dribble(and often, 8-10 seconds of dribbling). Our offense and floor spacing didnt look any better with humphries or Mirza on the floor.
Reggie Evans was horrendous on defense last year. Easily ranks as one of the 5 worst pick and roll defenders of the last decade.
no, he wasnt horrendous on defense last year. not statistically and not by the eyeball test. and no, he was nowhere near one of the 5 worst pick and roll defenders... again not statistically and not by viewing. hell he wasnt even the worst pick and roll defender on the team. brook is significantly worse in that aspect
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The major flaw in Brook's game is indeed his pick and roll defense, but Evans was just as bad, and even worse come playoff time. Evans completely refused to contest shots and / or rotate when required, his head was also constantly on a swivel, which brought back painful memories of Mile Ilic on defense.
I applaud the effort when it came to rebounding, but the Evans possesses no defensive awareness.... The simple fact that he won't be starting for the Nets this year will automatically make the team significantly better.
Great bench player, but should never be a starter on a strong playoff contender.
I applaud the effort when it came to rebounding, but the Evans possesses no defensive awareness.... The simple fact that he won't be starting for the Nets this year will automatically make the team significantly better.
Great bench player, but should never be a starter on a strong playoff contender.
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I'm not even sure if Evans's poor defense was a result of a lack of defensive awareness...imo, it was clearly because he wanted rebounds, so he refused to contest shots or rotate, so that he could stay in optimal rebounding position. That's why I call him a selfish player...his mind is always on getting rebounds, even when it's at the cost of good defense.
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Ok, since no one has broken the tie, I will.
M.Gasol wins.

Noah is the new nominee.
M.Gasol wins.

Noah is the new nominee.